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Here's a few ideas. These are somewhat dependent on how old your son is and how much work you want to do. 1. Sew him a Mistcloak like Returned said. Small clear vials filled with crumpled tin foil or tinsel can represent metal vials. 2. Bay wraps are a known and relatively easy meal for Kelsier's crew. 3. It doesn't fit in-world, but making homemade rootbeer floats with dry ice could be a fun treat that evokes the Mists and drawing the Mists in. 4. Maybe do a game of Werewolf/Mafia with Mistborn themed abilities set during the House War? Here's some options off the top of my head with no game balance whatsoever. You could even have abilities be separate from what team the player is on. A. Coinshot - kill 1 player during the night. B. Lurcher - choose 1 player to protect. That player will survive a nighttime assassination attempt. C. Rioter - choose 1 player. That player must make an accusation the following day. D. Soother - choose 1 player. That player cannot make an accusation the following day. E. Thug - can survive a single assassination attempt. F. Tineye - I'm not sure on this one. Maybe can peek during the night? G. Seeker - once per night, at the end of the night cycle choose one player. The narrator reveals their identity if they used an Allomantic ability during the night. H. Smoker - can ignore emotional Allomancy (alt. cannot be effected by emotional Allomancy and should not be notified if Rioted or Soothed. Choose 1 player to hide from a Seeker's senses. Those are ideas for the 8 basic Mistings. Not sure if I want to add Augurs, Seers, or Mistborn in. I'm also open to alternate abilities. And... well... depending on if your son would think morbid things are cool...

Would shields block Steelpushes? I'm not sure if they would. Really though, she would only use daggers (or vibroblades I think is the Star Wars equivalent) as part of taking out enemies while moving around with Iron and Steel, daggers would not be her primary offensive tactic. Droids are unusually susceptible to breaking after getting pushed over by telekinesis, it's a bit odd. No, she'd probably go to town with Duralumin Pushes, maybe creating some metal dust sandstorms to confuse sensors. If you just drop her into the war, yeah she'll have issues not dying immediately, but I think if she knew what was going on she could do just fine. Again, depends on what canon you ascribe to, but either blaster bolts either go at the speed of light (invisibly with the "visible shot" simply a radiation effect that follows after) and Han Solo regularly dodges them anyway, or if you look at the speed of the bolts fired from standard blasters as they travel in the movies, various people have calculated them to be anywhere from 78 to 135 mph. By comparison, a medieval crossbow fires bolts at around 95 mph, longbows around 105 mph, something Vin has ample experience dealing with, even with arrows without metal. Yes, droids have rapid fire, but Vin is small and really good at not staying still long enough to get hit by people.

I doubt that they could sense Kandra with Bronze. Vin never noted that she was able sense TenSoon operating with 4 spikes, and she really paid attention to that kind of thing. Spikes in the shoulders seems like it would be pretty obvious to an Inquisitor. There probably is something more going on though, because in theory the Inquisitors and Kandra in those days were both the servants of TLR, yet the Kandra had a set rule that they wouldn't go near an Inquisitor. Why would Inquisitors care whom the Kandra had replaced, in most cases operating as spies for the nobility? I wonder if TLR had deliberately kept information of what the Kandra did secret even from the Inquisitors, particularly so the Inquisitors didn't start coveting the Atium the Kandra were collecting.

Yeah... on paper, Jango Fett, Boba Fett, Trade Federation troopers, droideka, etc. shouldn't give Jedi nearly as much trouble as they do. Upgrade her daggers and Vin could have utterly trashed most of the droid army in Episode 2. The limitation of only being able to affect metal can be an advantage in the right circumstance.

I don't think we know enough about how the abilities interact. Does Copper shield against Jedi mind tricks? To what extent does Atium and Electrum disrupt Precognition? What is the terrain? What level of training are we talking? I think it's reasonable to assume that to make this a fair(er) fight, that the Jedi and Mistborn have had equal time for training. If you break out Yoda, then you break out a similarly aged and experienced Mistborn by pulling out TLR but take away his Feruchemical abilities and dependencies. There's also issues of what canon of Star Wars you choose to use for this, because there is serious power creep and/or abilities only demonstrated in a single individual. There have been Jedi who can smash a Star Destroyer into a planet, run 100 m in a second, absorb most of a planet's worth of life, etc. The ability sheet on Wookieepedia has over a hundred abilities that different writers or game developers have thrown in over the decades never seen in the movies. Which ones are we giving to the Jedi in this hypothetical duel? Are we giving the basic power suite or the more unique skills?

I agree with Returned that Roshar will be very difficult to put at a specific stage because so many rules are broken on Roshar. Soulcasters are not a technology that can be mass-produced as of yet, but with a source of gemhearts to replaced when broken, Soulcasters can create civilization with pretty much nothing else. Food, shelter, clothing, medicines, etc. can all be obtained or refined from basic Soulcast products, while the Highstorm provides water and Stormlight. Minor Oathbringer spoiler: When you can literally build and sustain an entire city with Stormlight, gemstones, and a Soulcaster, a bunch of other rules get thrown out the window. This gets even more complicated on a global scale when you factor in that not every Soulcaster can create every product, so groups that had access to food producing Soulcasters had tremendous advantages. Yes, everything else, medical training, industrialization, farming, that all can grow after the fact, but Soulcasters can be a backstop and could bring back a city from complete destruction and economic collapse. Shallan's family was saved from financial ruin by possessing a Soulcaster. It's why even though most can't utilize Spheres for their intrinsic Soulcaster value, the economy and money system is based on gemstones, particularly what they can produce. What does this all mean in terms of the DTM? Hand a Soulcaster that could create all the essences to a group in stage 1 with a manual, and if they were careful I think they could jump very quickly to stage 4 in the scale of these things. Knowledge and gemstones are what would limit them. The carrying capacity in this case would be determined by the availability of the proper gemstones harvested from animals or mining. For groups that don't have a Soulcaster, then they have to learn agriculture, shaping crem, etc. and may follow a less unusual DTM trend.

Why does burning Chromium not effect Ettmetal that much? Is it just a special product of how Ettmetal works that it interacts with Leeching in a different way, or does the Leeching burn through the Ettmetal faster than other metals?

Yup. There is speculation going around that there could be a Cognitive Shadow of the deceased Adonlasium but that's been RAFO'd. We do know that Cognitive Shadows can finagle their way back into the Physical Realm but nothing concrete on this.

Brandon's gone back and forth on whether Aluminum and presumably Chromium burn away Allomantic metals or leave the metals while cutting their Spiritual Connection making them unusable for Allomancy. The WoB is in the spoiler. This is somewhat a separate question but the existing information seemed relevant. What happens if a Leecher burns Chromium and touches an Allomantically viable metal that is just sitting on a table? Does it do nothing or does the Leeching still have an effect? Basically, since we don't know the answer to which happens but either seems useful to be able to do at a touch. The Ghastly Gondola piece makes it look like you can Leech Invested objects that are separate from a person. Thoughts?

Maybe Invested metal burns more slowly, but I don't think that will be the primary factor that determines on how quickly a metalmind burns. I had assumed that metal burn rate is based on the Investiture needed to create the effect of the ability, though I'm not sure if this has been confirmed. Steel, Iron, and Pewter burn relatively quickly and enable large motion abilities, whereas Tin and Copper can be left to burn for hours. For Feruchemy fueled by Preservation, I would guess the burn rate is associated with the Investiture needed to produce the Feruchemical effect, so a quick guess is that speed, healing, and strength to be fast burners, but memory, wakefulness, and senses to be relatively slower burners. Basically it might follow attributes that are difficult to store, though there wouldn't be the bounds set by overstoring health for example. Related SA thought This annotation is also related:

Nightblood corrupts the Invesiture he consumes, so I assume that the Invesiture has changed to the point that it no longer has the exact opposite tone to anti-Investiture and that it will just fuel him. The black smoke that flows from him definitely doesn't act like Breaths.

I think this could be a tad bit more complicated than what you're describing, though gaining Allomancy isn't a simple prospect either these days. I think a good indicator for how this could go down is if Navani can open a Perpendicularity of just Stormlight or Lifelight, or if she can only create Towerlight. I don't know how much of this is specific to her bond to the Sibling, or if there's something characteristic of how Bondsmiths have the necessary abilities and Connections to open Perpendicularities. A possibility that I see is that the powers could interfere with each other if Dalinar became that Connected to Preservation, and that he could end up being forced to combine the powers, producing the combination of Stormlight and Preservation's power rather than being able to toggle between the two. Really cool idea, and I think it's quite possible we could see a similar scenario in SA. What Ishar can do as an Unchained Bondsmith, I have no idea.

I'm not sure if we know enough about how Awakeners break Lifeless to really answer that one. Apparently Lightsong's priests had to torture Vasher's squirrel, and that a lot of Breaths were involved. Overwhelm anything with a cracked soul with enough Investiture and Commands and it will probably work, though I wouldn't know how. We're talking 10,000 Breaths to break Commands. As for emotional Allomancy affecting Lifeless, we don't have a complete answer but we have this:

I'm not really understanding what the question is asking. Are you asking if you can spike the Vessel of a Shard? Are you asking if a Vessel becomes more vulnerable, at least on the Physical Realm near a perpendicularity? Technically speaking, Shardpool Perpendicularities already are large fragments of Adonalsium. Stabbing one with a Hemalurgic spike probably does nothing interesting, though Hemalurgic spikes were incompatible with the Well of Ascension. If you're thinking of a summoned Perpendicularity like what Dalinar and Ishar can do, I highly doubt they can overpower a full Shard directly, so likely some other trick would have to be involved. As for what would happen if you actually managed to spike the Vessel of a Shard, well it depends on what metal you used. I'm assuming that there's a cap to the Hemalurgic charge a spike can hold, so you wouldn't be able to absorb a whole Shard into a dinky piece of metal. Yeah... too many variables to really give anything in-depth. Can you give more detail as to what you were thinking?

It defeats the purpose of the question (for now), but I'd argue that they wouldn't have tried to infiltrate Kredik Shaw in the first place, since the purpose of that trip was to try to find out about TLR's weaknesses. They weren't at a stage for a full confrontation yet, since even if they had a way to assassinate TLR, the Great Houses or Steel Ministry would have filled the power vacuum (short of Kelsier effectively becoming a second Lord Ruler as a Fullborn, which I'm not getting into right now). There weren't many good reasons to get into Kredik Shaw, except maybe to try to find the fabled Atium cache to control the Great Houses and the economy. We know how successful that search would have been. If for whatever reason they needed to break in anyway, I'd guess they would have snuck in the old fashioned way through disguise and stealth without Allomancy to not alert the Inquisitors. Both were skilled at that long before they knew they were Mistborn. Knowing that Inquisitors can pierce Copperclouds solves Kelsier's mystery of how he and Maare were caught the first time, so there was no reason to break in as powerfully and quickly as possible. Kelsier's story of the Survivor and the Eleventh Metal hasn't grown enough for the rebellion to work and even if it had, he can't play the martyr card if no one sees him die and OreSeur can't recover the body. Knowledge of TLR and Inquisitors changes The Plan dramatically, since even the entire Luthadel Skaa populace can't defeat TLR, so Kelsier goes back to the drawing board and figures out a different way to kill TLR, probably needing Sazed's help as a Ferchemist in one way or another. With full knowledge, they would know that their timetable to dethrone TLR is dependent on the power gathering at the Well of Ascension hidden deep inside Kredik Shaw. From there, we loop around to the original question of what Kelsier and Vin would try if they had to break in and take down TLR and the Inquisitors.

Okay, I'm going to say that against a Radiant in living plate, this is a really bad idea regardless of if they can do any damage. The Feruchemist is deliberately setting themselves on fire hot enough to kill and trying to hurt someone in armor by standing next to them with their burning body. The Feruchemist will be burning through their Goldmind like mad, and you don't want to do that against another healer. I don't think a quick flash of heat will be enough to kill someone in Plate either, I think it would need to be enough thermal energy to permeate the Plate and then bake someone from the outside in, because heat doesn't move instantaneously. I used to flick the Bunsen burner flame in science class and it never hurt despite the high temperatures involved because of how long it took for the heat to transfer to me. Using Steel will let them evade the Shardbearer, but I don't think it will be as simple as zipping over, going nova, and then zipping away. Using F-Pewter and punching until you broke your fists would drain your Goldmind less. I have other speculation, but that's the short answer.

Most boring moment in all of SA? I often listen on audiobook, so it's gotta be Taravangian writing out those strings of numbers in the Diagram epigraphs in WoR. 1118251011127124915121010111410215117112101112171344831110715142541434109161491493412122541010125127101519101112341255115251215755111234101112915121061534 was a code that did not translate well from a written medium to an audio medium. If we're talking viewpoints, I'd say Sheler from the interludes, who is the Lighteyes after the callous and pride-focused Alethi stereotype that presumably gets eaten by the "hog". I learned absolutely nothing about the Alethi or really much about the status of the war from Sheler, I only cared because I got to see how the Mink was playing with him. I had to look up Sheler's name, I had forgotten it because he had so little impact. The interlude itself was quite entertaining, but not because of him. If we're talking major characters, I like them differently on multiple readthroughs. I tend to find the primary viewpoint character of each book the most interesting while I'm doing my first readthrough, and then I focus more in on the secondary viewpoints on subsequent readthroughs.

I doubt it's in-world significant. Most of the known Yolish words or Vessel names don't have much of a connection to Aons that I can see. Aon Ati has no similarity to the symbols for Atium. My guess is that connection is incidental, because we know how Aon Ati came to be used in only one character, Matisse in Hope of Elantris. Matisse is named after a real world former student of Emily Sanderson, who gave them her Elantris book report project that she made in class as a wedding gift. "Ati" is the only possible Aon from her name. All of that is in Arcanum Unbounded in the author notes for Hope of Elantris, but you can read it here: I really, really doubt Brandon named Ati and by extension Ruin after Matisse.

I think we may be underestimating the shock absorption that Plate gives. Zahel's "standard" training for a newbie in dead Plate was to have them repeatedly dive head first into the ground from high up. I'm guessing that should still be enough force under normal circumstances to either give a concussion or break the neck. It certainly would for conventional armor I think, but Renarin was fine. Sure he was a proto-Radiant, but this was training for normal, if older Shardbearers. Something about the Plate gives them supernatural shock absorption, because jumping off of 40-50 foot cliffs should still shock your internal organs such as your brain as they collide or flatten against skull, ribs, etc. For someone in dead Plate, I'd recommend planting the Blade in the ground at a relatively shallow angle, the flat pointed at the cannonball, the Shardbearer ducking beneath the Blade and bracing upwards. The goal is to deflect the cannonball away, not block it. Something similar to the stance the grey Shardbearer is using on the third box down, but with the Blade touching the ground and the Shardbearer crouching lower. This may be close enough to an existing stance that it would be relatively easy to adapt. It also allows you to still be somewhat prepared for other assailants, since admittedly you probably should just dodge or dive flat if you can.

When I stop and visualize @Returned's comment on Wax's sense of linear paths away from himself, this gets even more obvious IRL terms. Wax essentially has had a limited form of laser sights for himself, if not his gun, in an era that has analog sights. He can literally line up the metal of the bullet in his gun with a metal object and make adjustments from there. The Steelsight lines pointing to metal surrounding a target gives him angular data he can mentally divide and compare to the angle of the metal bullet in his gun when not using Aluminum rounds, or the barrel of his gun when not using an Aluminum gun. That means he will never be more inaccurate than the 2 or 3 pieces of metal closest to his target. If he misses, the bullet now near his target gives him even more targeting data, if close enough to sense. Of course guns don't follow straight line firing and he has to adjust for gravity and distance, but if he's using known objects such as an enemy's pistol to get a general sense of the amount of metal he is using to aim, the width of the Steel line may give him ranging data in addition to regular depth perception. What about how Steel lines point away from your center of gravity? Wax makes the third button down on his shirts out of steel (if I remember right), so presumably that's his center of gravity. For me, that's about in line with the middle of my shoulders, meaning that if I held my arm with a gun directly away from my body, it could be in line with my center of gravity with only minor adjustment. In fact at least the shots where Wax Pushes on the bullet as it leaves the gun, his aiming must mostly be in line with the Steel line from his center of gravity, so we know Wax does this. Of course, we never see Wax actually thinking about all this and it's only as good as your ability to accurately process and utilize the information when moving your gun arm, but that's the kind of targeting information a Coinshot gunman could have. I'm a terrible shot, but give me a month or two with Steelsight and I could get way better than most I think. Then you add in what Returned and Tremayne have said about manipulating the shot itself, bracing himself, and using Ranette firearms, then his accuracy gets more plausible to me. Maybe this post seems similar to my first, but I wasn't thinking about the environmental data Wax has or that all of his new info is in straight lines that he can literally use to line up his shots. If Ranette uses Ironsight to test the accuracy of her weapons, she also has an advantage most gunsmiths don't have. She may even be adapting the guns to someone that can see metal lines. One last new thought as an IRL comparison. To Wax, unless Aluminum is in use, everyone is effectively using tracer rounds that he can track with his eyes closed. In BoM he was instinctively tagging enemies firing Aluminum while fighting a small army. Wax's abilities specifically give him an advantage in gunfights, separate from standard target shooting.

I think after I read Emperor's Soul, it made me wonder more and more what it was like for Brandon to finish The Wheel of Time. Shai delving into Ashravan's past, figuring out why he did what he did, reading his personal notes, then trying to recreate Ashravan as best she could and then tweaking things here and there to make her work into a better whole... that seems pretty similar to what Brandon did by looking through Robert Jordan's notes and trying to recreate an entire cast and world to match how people remembered The Wheel of Time. He probably took character sketches or snippets to Jordan's associates to see if what he wrote was familiar to the original work. For me, that added layer made Emperor's Soul a remarkable book. It's also ironically a commentary for the writer attempting to create realistic characters, but we probably don't think about that because Shai and Gaotona feel real. There's so many layers to how you can look at the book, and even down to the way that Shai perceives the world and considers the ramifications of everything happening outside of her little room to genuine wisdom in how you treat people or think of people, all of those make it an amazing book in my opinion.

This one? Sorry I missed it on my first pass. Whenever Vasher Awakens something then it is keyed to his Identity and only he can reclaim it under normal conditions. If it was unkeyed, then anyone could recover a Returned's Breaths in an object, even if it was the Godking himself that Awakened it. Presumably a Returned would still make metalminds keyed to their Identity if they became a Feruchemist.

This was asked a while back, but in the context of if an Awakener put their Breaths into an object, died and Returned, could they recover them? The answer was they could, that enough of their Identity was the same. Odds are it's the same with Feruchemy.

These sound fun! Here's a few cheap and simple ideas. Skybreaker challenge colored flour/chalk sack war. Pancake bar with 10 9 different kinds of pancakes or toppings if you (or whomever is cooking) want a simpler food Depending on who you're hosting for, temporary Bridge 4 tattoos could be fun. It can be as simple as making a Bridge 4 glyph stencil and then filling it in with a washable marker or face paint. Just make sure you're using something nontoxic and won't drip into someone's eyes if someone wants one on their forehead. Hijack a fire hydrant and simulate a Highstorm

My guess? His Steelsight been giving him far, far more information on the trajectory and accuracy of his shooting for decades. Unlike people who have to fire a gun and then go down range to see where they hit on the target, he can feel the bullet as it travels and know exactly where it lands in relation to where he thought he was aiming. This additional sensory feedback with likely hundreds if not thousands of hours of practice lets him make ridiculously precise shots, even though he couldn't shoot worth beans in the SoS prologue. We also know he experiments with these kinds of things, practicing getting shot while wearing padding to try to deflect bullets with Steel, and seeing if he could outdraw someone in a standoff while using practice blanks, etc. He's likely been adapting, learning, and refining his technique the whole time. Wax also gets sensory feedback on his targets' positions if they happen to be wearing metal, based on money in wallets, buckles, guns, buttons, ammo, etc.. With the trick shot of hitting a bullet from a speed bubble, he could directly sense his target if he so chose. He is supernaturally good, but I think it's more to do with his supernatural senses than anything else.