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Or it would run exclusivly on what the Mistborn was going to do reguardless of whether they were burning atium or not. Even when buring Atium Vin still is going to do something, if she changes midway through what she is doing she is still going to do something, and the force knows what that something is. Oh, my bad. Obi-Wan is a much better fighter that Qui-Gon, even if Qui-Gon could see that outcome he wasn't skilled enough to make it happen. I don't think the systems should interact, or be forced to play by any rules other than their own. Jedi wouldn't count as invested, and the force would not count as investiture. I'd say it would prevent them from being sensed at a distance, but it's not going to prevent jedi foresight.
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That is the ancient jedi order you're looking at there. The order at the time of the clone wars taught it's members to supress all emotion.
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Scadrian vs Rosharan magics post Rhythm of War. Reguardless of why Atium will not work, but Jedi future sight will.
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Yep
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We have a 73 page argument that we're going to start back up in November, this is nothing.
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What? Atium is rendedred useless by even small amounts of opposing future sight, so it is gone. However the Mistborn still has the intent to do something, and their future will therefore still be readable. Or he wasn't thinking "Hey, what if I randomly jumped down this disposal shaft right here?" Because most people won't think to try something that dumb. Then Jedi count as invested individuals and force resistant weapons count as investiture resistant, force sensitive future sight blocks atium but is still useable on its own etc. And copperclouds don't block cosmere future sight, why would they be more powerful against a magic system that doesn't even follow the same underlaying principles? We don't follow weak jedi, so those are our data points.
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They don't opperature under the same principles however. When your opponent has greater reach than you that doesn't matter unless you are multiple times faster than them. They deal with jetpacked individuals, and people who force leap, they won't be too surprised Yes. Jedi supress all emotion, doing that would help them. That's not how copper works, and again the Jedi don't use investiture. And even if they did they have a continual source, not a finite amount.
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But it doesn't split. When two atium burners go up against each other they see hundreds if not thousands of possible outcomes, a force user would only have the one their opponent was activly going to do. Seeing the future doesn't mean anything if you aren't able to capitalize on it. It deson't matter how far you can see if all roads end in failure. Maul was simply a better fighter than Qui-Gon was. By the Force. So not something a coppercloud could do. Obi-Wan and Anakin turned pulled their lightsabers from General Grevious and were fighting within seconds. Obi-Wan pulled Qui-Gon's lightsaber to him without being able to see it, and then threw himself over Darht Maul to cut him in half. Obi-Wan pulled a blaster to him while dangling off the edge of a cliff while Gervious approached him Yoda and Palpatine threw Senate platofrms at each other while jumping between them. Dooku threw Obi-Wan across the room while still fighting Anakin.
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No, it could simply change with their opponents intentions, you can really only intend to do one thing. Is there any qualitiative difference between sensing danger in the future and seeing it? Wait what? Where did we get that? Not really, pulling and pushing on small objects appears to be very easy.
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Visions of the far future are that way, but that's more due to fate in the Star Wars universe than the nature of the visons themselves. However near future visions as force users employ in battle are changing, but unlike Atium they don't cancel out but rather always show what will happen next.
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Atium is affected by all future sight, the jedi's is not. I fail to see how that changes one of Atium's weaknesses. The posibility still remains, even if difficult, and only applies to jedi with metal lightsaber hilts. Alternativly they could simply always be pulling it into their hands, which is far easier and has the same effect.
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The force was shifted during the time of the clone wars to favor the dark side, so all the jedi then were far weaker than they should have been. A Jedi's precognition is not affected by other's precognitionm it's why their battles with the Sith look so choeriographed, Lucas wanted us to see just what it was like when Jedi and Sith went all out at each other with both of them looking at each other's future. I've adressed that here
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Just for future referance, please don't double post(posting twice without someone else postin) You can edit your previous post. Some of them are metal yes(others are made from special kinds of wood), but even if a Mistborn tried to push on them and assuming that they were metal the Jedi could simply use Darth Thraya's tactic of holding their lightsaber with the force, which would simply result in the mistborn being flung backwards.
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It's good, we all have done that at some point, just something to keep in mind for the future.
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The fact of the matter is that Jedi simply outclass Mistborn in every way. Jedi can push on objects that aren't metal, don't get pushed back if they push on objects bigger than themselves, can move objects in more directions than just away from or towards their center of mass. Atium won't work against them because Jedi have precognitive abilities, and their abilities still work even against other people who can see the future. Emotional allomancy won't work they are trained to control their emotions. Lightsabers have greater reach than daggers, and are bright and loud weapons so tin and pewter are useless. Duralumin might be intresting but a steelpush can simply be deflected away from the jedi and the Mistborn just wasted their metal. On the other hand Mistborn have to fight an opponent who has all of their advantages but none of their weaknesses. So Jedi win no questions asked.
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Dude, this thread has been dead for almost a year.
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Assuming you can somehow control ants, yes. Or in a more morbid fashion, you could use their bodies as parts.
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What stage of the DTM would Roshar be in?
Frustration replied to solarcat's topic in Stormlight Archive
Well infant mortality would be pretty low because there aren't a lot of real diseases and medicine is increadibly advanced. However most families don't have a lot of children so. I have no ides. -
Actually they have vacination, or at least are working on it. I agree with you it makes no sense whatsoever for them to have it, but for some reason they do.
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I'm not sure what the investiture in the light is doing but whatever it does I think that would still kill them.
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Well they have an understanding of wave functions and sound cancelation so I would find it wierd if they didn't understand quantifiable energy.
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Healing is just cell division.
Cancer is uncontrolled cell division.
You can die of cancer.
Therefore you can die by healing too much.
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Space Travel - The Next Tier (Part One)
Frustration commented on Channelknight Fadran's blog entry in The Perfect Space Opera
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Actually I have a model for a perpetual motion machine using paired gems you can see here And while it does require Raysium it is within the capabilities of Roshar as it is now.
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The ants one depends on context, is the socket in the ceiling or on the ground, because that changes a lot. However, I am certain they could do it, I've seen a video of two wasps opening a bottle by twisting the cap, and ants building bridges out of their bodies. They could totally screw a bulb in if they had enough ants. Do I believe AI could ever become Sapient? Not even close, nothing we have seen from them has ever even approached contious thought. No computer will ever ask itself the question "Who am I? Why am I here?"
