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Dalinar

I don't think that was dark at all. I mean it was Siri scared of susebron while susebron was scared of Siri. That was just funny . Lots of darker stuff has happened behind the scenes in all the books. In era 1 , you have the rape and murder of the skaa plantation workers and forced prostitutes. You have alrienne and shallan commenting on how they would have been raped and murdered by thier ' rescuers ' if not for thier dominant personality and promise of greater reward. You have jasnah murdering those thieves in the alleyway and commenting they were nothing more than rapists and murderers. You have the Terris breeding programs which effectively mean gangrape and forced prostitution and forced seperation of mothers and children. Now I'm not saying the sexual slavery part will be shown onpage. But it will be implied . It is Canon but we don't know if it cancels completely or only within the overlapping radius. Well it doesn't matter , since cadmium bubbles are room sized while bendalloy ones are 5 feet across. My theory requires the opposite to be true. Although perhaps you could get around it making weaker pulsers via spikes subjected to a proportionate amount of hemalurgic decay. So the new pulsars could create a bubble just 1-2 feet across Besides , it's stated in the coppermind So a savant could perhaps have larger bubbles. Combine that with weaker pulsers and the conditions for my theory is achieved. @king of nowhere they would be burning bendalloy to slow time for themselves. That's all that's required but I thought perhaps if they had a cadmium pulser side by side with the slider they could cancel each other within a small radius. You can read more about that above this paragraph. I will agree that idk really know what flaring or Nicrobursting will do. I thought perhaps it allows time to move superslowly but might be wrong. Now even if cadmium and bendalloy cancel each other , it's just a minor hitch in my theory . The operation would still occur. Now as for the bendalloy required. 1). Wayne is dirt poor. 2). He depends on Wax for the stuff and wax depends on steris for the money and I'm sure steris would have a heart attack if she learned half her wealth is burning up in bendalloy. 3). The set already has tonnes of stolen bendalloy. 4). The set members are rich. Richer than steris even , there are several of them and they are far more desperate. 5). If they get the required results they will have lesser inhibitions on spending thier wealth on bendalloy. 6). Once u get a bendalloy Savant , they will be efficient. Ie , they will slow more time for lesser amounts of bendalloy. ( This would be even easier if my weakened pulsers and the effects canceling out in a limited radius are possible too, so let's just keep this half in mind ). 7). The SSc might have developed better , far more efficient and economic methods for cadmium and bendalloy production. This tech might proliferate to elendel . ( The set or even normal industries and individuals will do thier best to steal the knowledge I'm sure ) Or even if they can't , I'm sure they will import it from the SSc, either legally or through the black market. It would be still expensive but less compared to producing it with thier inefficient methods.

@Ookla the very snazzy. Dear friend , perhaps this news is yet to reach you. But Ruin is dead. This ,I think your fears are unfounded.

Thanks Trav

Noted. Ah kk. Idk, it's nothing beyond the stuff we saw in Scadrial era 1. But yeah nalthis is plenty dark but again nothing beyond the brutality of era 1.

Yes indeed you do , my dear man. And I'm an Elantrian since I like to wear silver glitter , the newest fashion of the rose empire Edit : Oh my , @The traveller he actually does have almond eyes. He always did apparently !!!! Was i so blind in my devotion to Wryn that I didn't see my own friend's eyes before ? Ah only at this late hour , have I personally come to realize the perils of fanaticism.

Ah so those unnatural , bloodcurdling noises were from you , Trav. I thought it was the bloodsealer. Oh we must meet soon then. Me , Honorless and you all together back on the same planet in the same place. It must wait however. The Emperor needs my counsel and my sweet lady won't woo herself to me. Ah , I had forgotten all about the pleasures of life in that red rusted suit of armor. Ah , @Honorless told me that there is an ancient MaiPon-ese proverb. The best time to plant a Selanut tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now. I believe I will follow his advice .

So oh @The traveller. I was so very wrong. I hope you will be able to Forgive me. I infiltrated the rose empire but was soon swayed by it's way of life. They do have quite ridiculous beliefs . Many here believe there are 80 suns !!!!!! Even that pales in folly to what the MaiPon-ese believe. Some superstition about 3 or 4 realms not worth wasting ink on. But all the same they are good ppl. I can't believe I wanted to bring the fate of elantris upon them. I have vowed to do my best to contain the Wyrn. I will be starting an defensive alliance with teod. Too long has the rose empire pretended to not notice the other nations. Our policy of isolationism ends today. We will also be funding Arelish and Elantrian rebels. They have siezed the city already and have activated the magic systems. I beg you for forgiveness. I'm trying to right my wrongs. Would you grant me aid in my quest against the Wryn ? Now let's talk about more mundane matters. I have found someone. It was to my great surprise , our mutual friend @Honorless. He says he's MaiPon-ese now. I'm trying to tell him that always squinting his eyes , makes him a racist rather than MaiPon-ese but ah well, I believe he means no harm by it , he always was naive . He now believes in all that nonsense about the 4 realms too or was it 5 realms ? Ah nevermind , he is very talented at his work. He was to be executed but I had his life spared. Right now I'm wooing a lady , a fellow arbiter . She likes vases from the first century. Now if only I can find that lazy forger . Perhaps I should take the striker with me to put some fear into him. He should know better than to think past acquaintance will make his sloth immune from my wrath . Your dearest , redemption seeking friend. PrinceGenocide

Sure it is heavy speculation. But it is completely within the realm of possibility. And Brandon has this thing to pull off the unexpected. I think the Mistborn would have great potential against the SS ( southern Scadrians ). Wow that sounds wrong. Ok against the SSC. All the high tech could be neutralized by a single duralumin boosted mistborn. The set might expand thier Ambition from beyond luthadel to the entire world of Scadrial. It could actually be how we get to know about the SSC. Mistborn operatives raiding to gain tech and the SSC requesting aid from metalborn like wax , Wayne , marasi and the kandra trying to stop them . Would give us povs on the society , culture , politics , history , technology , kelsier , everything. Ok , I guess I'm not 100% sure but it is by far among the best theories i have come up with. Its got all the necessary ingredients too. Bendalloy ,check. Allomancer captives, check. Hemalurgy ,check. Extreme pressure in the set to accelerate thier programs, check. SSCs , check. It's Kinda my darkest too , although not as dark as my theory about human farming for Breaths on Nalthis where children are enslaved or killed as soon as Breaths are extracted from them. That's awesome in a terrible way and I doubt Sanderson will make it happen but who knows ? You are probably right about the atium part. But we all know Lerasium could fit the past too. It's not well known but I'm sure many have figured it out. It's in the words of founding after all. As for using bendalloy , well they have an entire shipment and if Wayne who was dirt poor , had little practice with it before wax came into his life and who still is dependent on wax for it could figure out all the tricks. I'm sure the nobility/ the Set can. Also edit about cadmium in main post .

Yeah that is true. But idk Maybe he will surprise us. I hope so atleast. I like dark , warped stuff . Wait Warbreaker was dark. Really ? I didn't really see how that's dark. I mean it is but not too much. Especially since Now I have a dark theory for nalthis. Read it in the next comment. I have highlighted it too

They did. An entire shipment from house tekial. I'm rereading AoL now

Ok guys Maybe this theory has been broached before but could Mistborn make an appearance in TLM , the final book of the Wax and Wayne Tetralogy. Now , we know the Set has been gathering allomancer women from less diluted bloodlines in order to breed a Mistborn. But the biggest problem is that it will take time , maybe decades or even a century before the required results are generated. However , there is a way to bypass this . Bendalloy mistings !!!! Suppose you get a woman pregnant and get her in the presence of a bendalloy Savant or atleast a Flarer . A few days worth of time would be diluted to months . In that time , the woman would give birth , recover and would be ready to be impregnated again. Then you could apply the same process on the kids , to accelerate thier growth. You could have the bed , books , bathroom , etc within a 5 foot radius or the guy could just drop the bubble when the kid moves and put up new ones. Tutors , nannies , brainwashers , trainers in most of the allomantic metals could work in the bubble as well. Things could be wilder if you have two or more sliders slowing time at the same instant. This could lead to further time compression. ( This is confirmed btw either in the coppermind or via a WoB ) Or you could have a Nicroburster to speed things along. Then there are those allomantic grenades . For training in metals like iron , steel , tin and maybe pewter , you would need effort in real time but most of the other activities could occur in the time bubble. Also they won't have to focus on all the kids all the time. Suppose you speed time along until a specific age , say puberty ( if that's still the age of allomantic maturity after Harmony's intervention ). Then you could check if the kid's an allomancer. If he /she is just a misting or a normie , they will be dropped from the time dilation program. They would then be used for breeding. Bendalloy and nicrosil mistings however could be recruited into the operation. Then suppose you get a Mistborn kid , you could then allocate all your sliders to working on him in a super bubble. The kid herself could burn bendalloy with duralumin to gain more time and Nicroburst her fellow Sliders. A Century worth of time could be compressed into a few years. Now let's go over the probable setbacks : One ). Hiring the required Sliders. Now not every slider will be crazy about aging decades in a timebubble , but : I ). A few might be dedicated to the Set and will do the job. II ). Many would agree to it for adequate financial compensation for themselves or more likely for thier loved ones. III ). Others could be blackmailed or tortured or they and thier loved ones could be threatened. There will be guards loyal to the Set with them , of course , to make sure they don't indoctrinate rebellion in the kids and to keep them at gunpoint IV ). The Sliders who aren't daunted by death or torture or threats could be used to harvest hemalurgic spikes which would then be granted to loyal members or desperate victims of the Set who are willing to do the job. V ). As time goes by , some of the kids will turn out to be Sliders , powerful ones too , since they will have purer blood. They will already be brainwashed by the Set and since that's the life they will be used to , I guess they won't be too daunted about becoming Bendalloy Savants. Same applies for the Nicrobursters. VI ). Also I have this theory. Like suppose there's a Slider who can create a bubble 5 feet across and a pulser ( cadmium misting , ex : marasi ) with a lesser radius ,say 2 feet. Could they both put up buubles while standing within 2 feet of each other . Within the two feet radius , the two metals will cancel each other's temporal disparities. But within the 2-5 feet radius , time will be diluted and slow. _______________ _______________ Two). The required metals . Now I'm guessing you will probably need tonnes of metal for the operation. Bendalloy is an expensive metal as is duralumin and Nicrosil. But as we know I ). The Vanishers have already stolen tonnes of the stuff II ). Seeing the Set is comprised of members who are far from destitute, ( the Vanishers real goal was to destroy the solvency of House Tekiel and to kidnap the women ) so I don't think it will be hard for them to acquire the metals , especially if the operation yields promising results. III ). The Southern Scadrians might have developed better , far more efficient and economic methods for cadmium and bendalloy production. _____________ ____________ ___________ The Set might expand thier ambition from beyond luthadel to the entire world of Scadrial. It could actually be how we get to know about the SSc. Mistborn operatives raiding to gain tech and the SSc requesting aid from Elendelite metalborn like Wax , Wayne , Marasi and the kandra . This would give us PoVs on the society , culture , politics , history , technology of the SSc and maybe on kelsier too. So what do y'all think ? Could the fourth book have a Set Mistborn trying to overtake the government ? Does Telsin or Steris's cousin's children or grandchildren or great grandchildren go up against Marasi and Wax and Wayne ? It would an interesting dynamic , Wax and Marasi going against thier own grand niece or nephew. If my theory is true , the implications could be terrifying. Imagine Mistborn on the level of Spook or stronger , with access to all 16 metals !!!!!! Not to mention they might have hemalurgic spikes for F-gold allowing them to compound and become indestructible They could also have spikes granting them greater allomantic abilities. They could have F- iron , allowing them to compound weight and thier steelpushes to become more destructive than Wax could dream of. They could survive the ironpulls too , via gold or steel compounding. There is even a slight chance that they might acquire F-chromium as well. Especially if the terris elders form the backbone of or atleast are members of the Set as another one of my pet theory states . Then of course, the medallion tech might be used to compound as well. ________________________________________ And finally i believe this plotline could explain the book title as well. This is probably not true but eh..... At the beginning , before they find out the truth , the sudden appearence of the Mistborn might lead to many speculating that the reason for the sudden reappearence of Mistborn is Lerasium or diluted Lerasium whatever that is or isn't . So Lerasium is , The Lost Metal.The operation and goals make perfect sense. It doesn't violate any law of space , time or investiture and it is seriously dramatic. I would like to thank @king of nowhere @Honorless, @The traveller , @aneonfoxtribute, @Ookla the Prolific. For pointing out flaws in my theory and helping me make it better in the comments.

So it's raining outside and it got me wondering , Are there normal storms on roshar ? ' Low storms ' if you will . Like not the weeping. I mean normal rainy weather , hurricanes , tornadoes , snowfalls ,etc ? Other phenomenon like heat waves ? Highstorms have internals of days or weeks , so surely that's enough time for normal metereological phenomenon to occur if only in restricted regions and small scale ? Also are there famines ? I mean the Highstorms are a constant so I guess droughts don't exist and the crem renews the soil ( sorry rockbed )everytime so little loss of fertility . Baxil's friend mentions one but I wonder what caused it ? Disease , an usually strong Highstorm , war or was it an artificial famine due to government policies like the ones caused by the British east India company and the British imperial government in India ? Shinovar is exempt from this question , of course .

Skar ?? @Ookla the RoleplayerRoleplayer , next clue please

Up till now yeah I guess. Most of human history too , there was no free will. Even now most of the world population doesn't have free will . But now a few of us do , little bits of it atleast. I think that will only increase in the future I apologise if I don't get your point. I have tried to understand this concept before but I simply can't. Maybe it's cause it's faulty logic , maybe it's cause I don't want to be free of the illusion or maybe it's just a thing I'm bad at

Ok I'm an atheist and I have heard this a lot of times before but I still don't get it. I mean , I understand deterministic factors and how prolific they are. I understand that life itself might not be all that special from non living matter and that life and even consiousness might be just reactions akin to oxidation or combustion. Just more complex How most of what we consider vital , unforgeable parts of our personality actually depends on stuff like genes, history , childhood experiences , etc But there still is something called free will right ? Esp now that we can truly seperate deterministic factors from factors actually under our control ? I mean like now that we can question free will , we can rigorously eliminate determinate factors right ??

Woah , woah . Gold compounding/ 5H is not redundant. GC makes you immune to physical or spiritual harm. Tho I don't think it works on cognitive diseases 5H doesn't help you with that . If you lose an arm or something , unless a returned dies go you, U won't get it back. 5H does however grant you agelessness. That's something GC can never do and even atium compounding can do at extremely high cost and decreasing returns . GC and 5H would complement each other to make you truly immortal

But then again Atium isn't exactly an abundant metal. A thousand years of atium supply got depleted in minutes. Now there's probably little or no free atium left. Marsh has the last cache and he's probably running out of it too. In a few decades or centuries.

Yes , most unfortunately you are dead. I believe you might be a Svarkiss now as well. I will have to exorcise you with help from @Honorless

When does khriss say that ? WS ?

Ah but they didn't patent it or keep it secret. Besides who needs chouta when you have horrible tasting soulcast grain. Yum

Old friend @Honorless , I hope this missive finds you well. Though, as you are now loyal to Wyrn again and possess the indestructible bones of dakhor , I would guess that wellness on your part is something of a given. I realize that you are probably still angry. That is pleasant to know. Much as your strong bones, I have come to rely upon your dissatisfaction with me. It is one of Scyla's great constants, I should think. You do not agree with my quest. I understand that, so much as it is possible to understand someone with whom I disagree so completely. Might I be quite frank? Before, you asked why I was so concerned. It is for the following reason: @The traveller was once a kind and generous woman, and you saw what has become of her. Reduced to a Svarkiss. One need only look at the aftermath of her brief visit to Roshar and Scadrial to see proof of what I say. In case you have turned a blind eye to that disaster, know that @FictionSpren and @greeny-231are both dead. You have accused me of arrogance in my quest. You have accused me of perpetuating my superiority and holier than thou complex over Trav. Both accusations are true. Neither point makes the things I have written to you untrue. There is still hope for her . I believe if we were to join forces as servents of Wryn ,we could bring her back into Jaddeth's holy light If anything I have said makes a glimmer of sense to you, maybe you could astound me and do something productive for once. For I have never been dedicated to a more important purpose, and the very pillars of the sky will shake with the results of our exorcism. I ask again. Support me. Do not stand aside and let blasphemy consume more lives. I've never begged you for something before, old friend. I do so now.

Well first things first. Dalinar and the coalition has greater priorities. Herdaz is a backwater with no advantage worth shedding blood over. It has no oathgates. It's population is small . It's technologically backward and has no resources worth coveting. On the other hand , the alliance has to deal with Irian forces bearing down on the Purelake , Parshendi forces in the makabaki region , Parshendi forces conquering triax and tu bayla and enforcing isolation and encirclement of Jah keved , whose protection as of now is perhaps the single greatest priority of the alliance. They also have to be wary of raids on urithiru itself. Yes , that only happened cause taravangian allowed it but they don't know that They also have shalash captive and it might be plausible that she could simply summon back her honorblade and break free. Yes , we know that's very implausible but they don't. Besides we actually don't know for sure. We know very little about shalash and the honorblades and how she will respond to captivity , grilling for information and her father's death. Not to mention her guilt over taln and her own problems from the intervals between the desolations. Irian forces might bear down on Shinovar or makabakam as well. They have to careful of that too. The Shattered plains are quite open to assault too , esp if you can fly. Then there's the Everstorms and it's capricious destructive nature. They have to take down Ishar. Then thier might be future attacks on Thaylenah as well. The Azish lost thier trust in the Alethi when Sadean forces turned cloaks. Then there's the fact that they have to defend southern alethkar and try and wrest back the rest. They have to deal with the entire order of SkyBreakers. Who knows what else taravangian is cooking up ? Then there's szeth and Nightblood to deal with as well. They have to reactivate urithiru as well. There will be other problems too. Some of the WindRunners might already be quitting after the revelations of the eila stele. Many humans might be drifting towards the Parshendi who are for the moment better rulers who offer greater security and Don't discriminate based on eye colour . ( Although this might only be true in the vorin Nations ) And all these problems have to be dealt with with a very limited no of men and with insufficient knowledge. These are all far greater priorities than defending herdaz which offers very little in return. I'm guessing the Parshendi are taking it down just cause they can instead of muddling into Jah keved and being bogged down for years . Herdaz also allows greater containment of Jah keved.

Yo @Ookla the RoleplayerRoleplayer Next clue please

Noice.