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FOREWARNING: this is kind of grim, so don't read it if you're squeamish Alright yeah so this might be a little bit messed up, sorry But I was really genuinely thinking about this, so you guys get to hear about it too! So, I've devised some methods of torture for some specific Metallic Art users (well some are more torture than others). For example, a Firesoul (F-Brass). A Firesoul is suspended above a pit of molten brass, and given access to no metals other than a spike holding them up above the brass. Then, the Firesoul is lowered into the molten brass. The Firesoul is then allowed to store heat into the brass, but for a brief moment they are in extreme pain. After about 3 or 4 minutes, they are raised out of the molten brass, and allowed "rest" (they are still being cooked by the heat from the molten metal). This method would likely be very effective, as the Firesoul would be forced to endure the pain from the heat in the air, and extreme pain from a brief touching of the brass before being able to store away that heat. Eventually, done enough, this would make the molten metal cool enough to solidify, and upon this happening, the Firesoul would be lowered, and encased from the waist down in the extremely hot metal. If the Firesoul were to stop storing at any point during this process, the pain they would endure before dying would be immense. Another example, for an Aluminium Gnat (A-Aluminium), one that is actually a WoB: I can also see this method being used for some kind of extremely religious monk type deal, where the practitioner "cleanses their soul" through this method (though currently a tad expensive) Windwhisperer (F-Tin) In this method, a victim is given increasingly small bits of tin, while being subjected to immense amounts of pain, such as with traditional torture methods. Then, they come to rely on tin, almost like a drug, relying on storing the pain so as to not feel anything. They might also have to be blindfolded, so as to not pre-emptively store tin before the pain starts. They begin to associate tin with not feeling anything (i.e. no more pain) Then you may control the person, effectively making them a slave, as they will do anything for a bit of tin. Steelrunner (F-Steel) Have a hamster-wheel setup, where the output is tied to a powergrid or something. This one is more just forced labour but still. In the future-ish, could have several steelrunners imprisoned in individual cells, in steel manacles or something, that is placed on them via a robot hand, so no steelrunner is given the opportunity to tap and kill a guard or something. Then, they are forced to run on the hamster wheels, to generate electricity. If they do not, or they do not run for long enough, etc., then I guess they're probably like killed or something. Just something to incentivise them to run. In a similar vein, could have Brute/Thug fight clubs, where fighters with Metallic Arts are pitted against each other. Basically just abused fighters being profited off by rich people, while the fighters get scraps, just to get by. Again, it's less of a torture method and more of an unethical business scheme, but still great for taking advantage of others for personal gain.

I wonder how this comes into play with ADHD and other similar conditions. I thought of that because when I read Wax hardcore tapping zinc during BoM, I was like "So.. it doesn't make you smarter, just think faster? What if he can't concentrate on the situation at hand lol" More just curious, but if someone with ADHD was storing zinc (the ability to parse information (in my own words lol)), while not being able to concentrate, is the "quality" of that Investiture worse than if they were fully able to concentrate while storing? Or would there just be less Investiture stored? Again, more just a curiosity than anything. For me though personally, I don't think I'd be able to handle going 25% slower than I already am I'd love to be able to tap zinc though! It'd make some of my uni classes way easier to understand haha

I like the idea of Kaladin's Herald name being "Ladal'Elin" "Ladal" from KaLADin over time perhaps there could be consonant shifting from a "d" sound to a "r" sound, so then he's called Laral

I'd agree with the point that a God-metal's ability is affected by the Intent of the parent Shard, however I feel like Tanavastium and Raysium would not have those effects. I say this because the Vessel's views on the Intent of the Shard do not affect how a magic system's power works (except for direct change, like with how Snapping changed). For example, Scadrial's Mistborn, Feruchemists, and Hemalurgists work almost the exact same way, if not the exact same way, pre- and post- Catacendre. This is also indicated how Lerasium works the same way, regardless of the holder of the Shard. To me, this means that Tanavastium most likely would be more tied to Spiritual Connection in the form of Bonds, possibly with some form of Bondsmithing. I say this, because the surge of Bondsmithing is purely of Honor, not a mix with Cultivation. The Intent of Honor, as defined by the Coppermind, seeks to uphold oaths and agreements, and to bind things together. This could mean that, while burning Tanavastium, word is literally law, i.e. if someone said "I swear that I will give you 10 diamond chips by tomorrow", then they HAVE to do that (or else?) I do like your idea of Raysium, but I feel like we also can't ignore Rayse's perspective (not specifically his views upon holding the Shard, but his perspective) on Odium, where the "true" Intent of Odium is feeling emotion, and Passion. Many other people such as Hoid and Frost say that Odium is the Shard of God's divine wrath, but Rayse believes it is simply just feeling emotions. Taravangian also states that feeling emotion is more accurate than Hoid's interpretation of only hatred and wrath, but also says that subtler emotions like "love" don't register with the Shard, and it tends to like anger above all others. So, knowing all this about Odium's Intent, I feel like burning Raysium opens the user to high intensity emotion, instead of just being bad for the mental health. As for the ability it gives, I do like how you think it could be Chromium-plus lol. I feel like it could be like that, but I also want to think up other ways the Intent could affect the ability of the metal. So, it could be like super-powerful emotional Allomancy, but without the subtlety, so its just like a massive Riot or Soothe. That seems a bit lame though. Maybe it allows you to feel what the target is feeling, something that emotional Allomancy notably does NOT allow (except maybe with Hemalurgic constructs? unclear). It could be that these theories/predictions from me might be a little too on the nose, as Lerasium and Preservation's Intent are only loosely related (giving you Connection to a magic system + preserving things?), and Atium and Ruin's Intent are even more so. At the end of the day, it's hard to say what anything will be in the future (mechanics-wise), because it's up to Brandon's creative decision, and not everything has a 100% plan. It is fun to theorise though

Yup it looks pretty spot on, only it's a shame that there's no Dalinar for the reforging of the Oathpact

This is really awesome, and I'm surprised no one has commented yet! Looks great, well done

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Could also be that Agelessness in a Feruchemic sense is achieved via atium, and Vasher most likely knows that there is no more mass produced atium, so it would be very hard for Axwindeth to get her hands on atium. Maybe that's what Vasher was thinking? Only thinking about Feruchemy?

I second that, I literally got chills when reading that scene in Azir. I mean, he left a vacuum when he moved! And then seeing the aftermath... WHEW.

Honor's power only sees Oaths being kept as satisfactory, so if someone breaks an Oath (if it's taken extremely literally, then breaking the law can be seen as breaking an Oath), then Retribution will have no issue in bringing, well, retribution. That being said, Honor's power is somewhat alive, so it may learn that such an extreme, exclusive outlook isn't strictly right, so eventually, maybe by the second era, the power is more restrictive on Retribution

I was under the impression that Dalinar's reputation as the Blackthorn turned into a spren, not simply just a connection via Bondsmith. I'm sure it certainly helped that Connection could be manipulated, but we have been told that once a collective thinks of someone, or something, as something else, then it can become a sapient being (e.g. a spren)

I believe that Oaths have been seen on screen to transcend Ascension, with Rayse and Taravangian's Oath that Kharbranth will not be attacked, though Taravangian was on the receiving end of that oath. I think it would still apply though

the Survival Shard may be in the "Protect" category, as it could be considered a form of self-protection. Mercy, to me, seems more of a "Feel" than a "Protect", but I can see it being both too.

Not here to spread any controversy with my hot takes, but I saw this and wanted to say that I agree, and that in my opinion, Arcane S2 was really not great, I wouldn't want them near the cosmere either after that mess. If it turned out to be more like S1, then I'd be happy

I was always under the impression that it was red that signifies the corruption of Investiture, just not always. I think that black doesn't necessarily mean corruption, but red is more likely to be actual corrupted Investiture

Hoid being Dalinar definitely should be worrisome, I think. I don't really wanna know what he's planning, especially when he's got power over the entire tower and their occupants. More and more it seems like he wants Roshar to be a sacrificial lamb for the cosmere so that Odium doesn't escape. That much has already been made clear, but seeing it like this really makes him more scary to me, personally

in the past i've skipped the chapters i've already read, but i felt guilty about it for some reason. So this time, I think i'm just going to re-read it all

1. In a Nahel bond with a True Spren, the spren is allowed into the Physical Realm while remaining cognisant, as otherwise they would lose their cognitive ability, and in the case of Syl, become something akin to a windspren. With your question about spren being the ones that heal the Radiants, well, I think it's fair to say that Sylphrena herself isn't perfect, she still has hurts herself too. But, she is still helping Kaladin, so maybe the spren doesn't need to be perfect. In fact, it's probably similar to the group that Kaladin made in RoW, the talk therapy group (which unfortunately got suspended because of the invasion), with all the mentally ill people helping each other. 2. All people have innate Investiture, in their souls, or their Spiritweb. Still, I think this is the least of "healing" parts. I think that the therapy itself is more of a healing factor, while with Radiants, the Investiture is just to augment the healing itself. 3. No one has tried before (as far as we know) because prior to Aharietiam there were no such thing as deadeyes. Deadeyes are "new", in the sense that they didn't really exist before BAM was imprisoned. Spren thought that the deadeyes are well and truly dead, but as we've seen with Testament in the pre-release chapters, and Maya overall, it may not be the case. 4. Maybe there already is some kind of reverse bond going on with Syl, as she is still in need of her own therapy. I'd say that it's less likely to be true with Syl, though, as she already has a Nahel bond going on, and might not have "room" in the metaphorical spiritual sense, to host another Nahel bond, especially with the same individual. Dunno, but we'll see. 5. I don't really know how to answer this one without saying "Because Brandon wants to", but it does make sense, there's a Push for every Pull, why could you not initiate the bond from the other side? Why does it have to be a human?

I've never even thought about connecting these before, nice job seeing the parallels!

I think the only problem I see with same Realm travel is that a True Spren loses cognitive function the further away they get from their bonded partner, so I think it might also weaken the Nahel bond. The Radiant and spren would have to be very strongly Connected for this to even have a chance of happening, and even then I think it will still need proper circumstances, like a high amount of Investiture, a proper Intent, and the right Surge. I don't think any Radiant can just EP stasis chamber from one side of Roshar to the other, but maybe a Transportation Radiant could. Again, that Radiant has to have the right Intent, Investiture, and Connection, so they'd presumably have to be 4th or 5th Ideal, to even consider trying something like this. I don't think I like the idea of that being a commonplace ability, so if it even is something that can be done, then narratively Brandon would have to make very sparing use of it, like as a hail mary deus ex machina type thing. What I think this is more hinting at is Shallan being able to slip into Shadesmar due to her high Investiture level from the double bond, and anything else weird that might come from double bonding. Lightweavers do not have access to Transportation, so it'd just have to be related to how Lightweavers can see into Shadesmar for Soulcasting, but perhaps any other double bonded Radiant might have an easier time getting into Shadesmar?

Made up a semi theory when I was reading that part, that the native Rosharan plants need to bond a lifespren to grow, as they seem much more intelligent than a regular plant. I can't remember where I saw it, but I read that the more sapient a lifeform is, the more Investiture it has. This could be reversed, the more Investiture something has the more sapient it is (like leaving chunks of raw Investiture alone and it becoming it's own thing). Either way, glad we came to similar, if not the same, conclusion

yup, near the end of the story Kelsier saw him again, tried to interact with him, but couldn't, as Hoid was in the Physical Realm, not the Cognitive Realm.

Aw man, Stick, you made a post 2 minutes after me but it got more popular oh that makes so much sense, I forgot all about that. Now I have to re-read the Lost Metal to see what else I missed. Nice pick-up! Woah. I'd wondered what it was, this is a good idea

That is a good point, I believed it was to do with Kelsier because he was a Cognitive Shadow, thus the "wasn't a full Ascension". But re-reading the line, it does make more sense for it to be Vin. "It proved to be the wrong choice." makes more sense to what happened, as opposed to Kelsier giving up the power for Vin to take Ruin down, because that would be the right choice

https://reactormag.com/read-wind-and-truth-by-brandon-sanderson-chapters-25-and-26/ Hoo boy Shallan is in it deep now I can't believe she went so long fooling Iyatil. Also, does Iyatil have dragonsteel? is that what the "silvery horn or claw from some great beast" is? How did she even get it? Also also, its Iyatil's stuff, not Mraize's. Interesting. i'm not sure why it's interesting yet. uh, how did Mraize even get anti-Stormlight? I find it hard to believe he yoinked it, unless Rabionel arranged for some to be sent to him too I'm also glad we found out Felt and Ala, because that's a bit of a betrayal. I thought Felt was a good guy I wonder if that means Shallan will be held captive or something, because there's no way we just get that information scot-free How do the Ghostbloods have so many Seons? I feel like whenever we see the Ghostbloods, they're always with Seons. The Lost Metal, Shallan possibly when she was a kid, Ala in RoW, and now too (though i suppose Mraize probably contacted Shallan through this Seon too) I really wanna learn more about Iyatil's plans, and now all the rest of the involvement with Southern Scadrial. sooo many hidden details to try and work through Interesting that Dalinar and Navani are both gonna be traversing the SR together. I wonder if that means they both take up Honor, at least for a bit? imagine if they took it up together ooh that would be cool I'm a little worried at how Mraize also knows that Dalinar is gonna go off gallivanting in the SR, has Hoid really been feeding them information? Surely not, why would he work with Kelsier? but at the same time, he did mention with fondness at how Kelsier became a Sliver. Also again, he failed to mention that the Lord Ruler also Ascended and then withdrew from the Shard. Sja-anat seems to definitely be making her stance as the neutral third party, but also seems willing for people to join her, with Iyatil and Mraize at the least both getting spren. I wonder which spren they have, and if they advance their Ideals weirdly (they probably do). Maybe I should stop reading the pre-release chapters before the book itself comes out, I feel guilty... nah