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  3. progress bar enhancement!

    in General Brandon Discussion

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    On 3/29/2020 at 4:22 PM, Snorkel said:

    I was thinking that some authors, not naming any names, will probably get a lot MORE written during this time!

     

    Of course Brandon will continue to be the book-writing-machine he normally is :)

    *cough* GEORGE RR MARTIN 

    on a side note, the Thorn of Emberlain now has a 2020 release date!

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  5. The Knights Next Door

    in Roleplaying

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    Leona opened the door to the house, slinging her backpack over one shoulder. "Anybody home? I just got back from school," she called. She walked into the kitchen and set down her bag. Then she went to the fridge to get some cake. 

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  7. Rosharan Linguistics

    in Stormlight Archive

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    16 minutes ago, Renarin Kholin said:

    In the Prelude to the Stormlight Archive, the heralds are referred to as Jezrien and Talenel, which I assume means that those were their real names. I assume that Alethi ardents at one point decided that symmetry was holy and changed the names of the heralds to meet their standard of holiness.

     

    Just now, Gilphon said:

    Mhm. There a few cases that make that very clear- Vedeledev is clearly just a bunch of extra letters haphazardly tacked onto the end of Vedel, Jezrien has an entire morpheme that's not present in Jezerezeh, so that doesn't make any sense as a nickname, and and the prelude they're clearly talking about Talenel as the full name and Taln as the nickname; they wouldn't nickname him twice and just not think of his full name at all, surely. And Ishar, which is the name the other Heralds call him, is actually longer than Ishi, so surely the symmetric form is the nickname if anything. 

    It's a thing the Vorin do all the time- see also them just kind of inventing the name Nohadon out of whole cloth so they could claim the writer of Way of Kings had a symmetrical name. And deciding that any letter you want can be pronounced as 'h' so that they can write Honor in a symmetrical way. 

    Sorry. I worded my post badly. What I meant to say is that the symmetrical names are not the actual names, but ones the Vorin created to fit their ideals/language. Think about "Saint Anthony" in English versus "Santa Antonio" in Spanish. Or any of a million variations on names from any language. People change names all the time so they fit in better with a language. This is especially common with the names of biblical figures - Mary -> Maria, John/Jean/Sean, etc. 

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  8. Rosharan Linguistics

    in Stormlight Archive

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    On 3/23/2020 at 1:22 AM, asmodeus said:

    Pretty cool and detailed take.

    All of this gets only gets weirder considering the names of the Heralds, and the concept of symmetry, because that symmetry has been intrinsically tied to the way people use words and how they write them. How and from where did that veneration to symmetry come about?

    It's not present in the Singer names - Eshonai, Venli, Rlain are modern and don't seem to have been affected, but Leshvi, Moash, Vyre, etc. aren't either. That makes it seem that the veneration to symmetry isn't native to Roshar, because some Herald names are very symmetric - Kalak, Shalash. Pailiah even has the "h" substitution. Others are only some way symmetric - Vedel, Chanarach, Battar, to an extent even Talenel. And then yet others are completely non-symmetric - Jezrein, Nale, Ishar.

    This starts getting weirder once you include the Unmade. Dalinar, Renarin, Amaram, Adolin, and the moon Mishim all seem to share roots with Ba-Ado-Mishram, Yelig-nar and Re-Shephir. Shalash possibly shares a root with Ashertmarn. But then you have the Kai-Garnis : Dai-Gonarthis similarity, and a possible Moash : Chemoarish (Moshe means son in Hebrew, and Chemoarish is known as the Dustmother) connection, and the interplay just gets deeper.

    Jezrerien is the shorter form of Jezerezeh (the proper Alethi symmetric form). Nale -> Nalan. Talenel -> Talenelat. Ishar -> Ishi. Vedel -> Vedeledev. Alll of these are canon, IIRC.

    I think part of the reason for the shortenings is that different languages have different names - like Russian 'Sasha' for the English 'Alexander'. A better example might be 'Anthony' in English and 'Antonio' in Spanish. A lot of the names are unsymmetric intentionally because symmetry is reserved for the heralds - that's why Shallan has an n instead of an 'sh' at the end of her name. The suffixes 'din' 'lin' and 'rin' all mean child of - or at least some thing along those lines. Kaladin's name simplifies to 'Kala' which is near-symmetric. Renarin's name boils down to 'Renar'. Adolin becomes 'ado' which has a suspicious correspondence to an Aon. 

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  17. The chapter headings

    in Stormlight Archive

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    On 3/6/2020 at 1:14 PM, Gilphon said:

    The Divine attributes. So Ishar for example is Pious and Guiding, so he shows up when those traits are important to what's going on in the chapter. So he might show up if the chapter talks about Bondsmiths, or if Ishar personally shows up or is discussed.

    And also there's the unofficial 'eleventh Herald', the masked man, whose presence almost always means 'Hoid is in this chapter.'

    I didn't know the bit about Hoid! I'll look out for that now. 

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  19. You Know You're a Sanderfan When...

    in General Brandon Discussion

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    On 3/2/2020 at 1:11 PM, Ghanderflaffle said:

    I started last week, so I’m on Aon Ashe. My format also adds in women's script and the Thaylen alphabet. I’m doing glyph in the middle, name on top, women's script on the right, Thaylen on the left, and what it stands for at the bottom. I’m quoting all of it to Ars Arcanum.

    Can you post pictures?

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  21. Connection among the Parshendi

    in Stormlight Archive

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    6 hours ago, GoWibble said:

    So I am rereading through the SA (yes, again) and I came across a section with Jasnah and Dalinar talking about when they first met the Parshendi. Dalinar says that they started speaking their language (Althei? How is it spelled?!?) very quickly. Did this have to do with a form, or with voidbinding? Voidbinding doesn't make sense because 

      Reveal hidden contents

    (yes I know that OB has been out for a while, but I have friends that are complaining about spoilers)

    the Fused aren't there yet

    Please explain. 

    I'm gonna go out into wild theory land, so please feel free to ignore this If crackpot theories aren't your thing.

    Anyways.

    The Parshendi have a huge focus on music with the rhythms and things right? Well, music is full of patterns. Once you play or sing for a while, you find patterns that repeat across all sorts of songs and pieces. For example, the I-IV-V-IV chord progression in literally every song ever. Gradually, you learn to pick up on these patterns and anticipate them. My point is, a background in music could make the parshmen very good at noticing patterns, which are a huge thing in language.

    They could also just have really good flashcards. 

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  25. How do you feel about Cosmere technology?

    in Cosmere Discussion

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    I love the idea of fantasy and tech combined. I feel like there's tons of potential there. Robert Jordan scratched the surface a bit with the age of legends. But we barely saw any of that. Other than that, most fantasy I've read is just "ah yes we have been stuck in the 1300s for over 20,000 years" no. stop. I want my spaceship magik battles and things. 

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