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Isn't that what we are doing by reading at the pace Brandon publishes?

How does the water cycle work? Are there normal oceans apart from the dry oceans? What are they burning for their machines? Spores? Sprouted Verdant? As they know wood, rain must be falling. That means activated spores where rain is falling and rivers empty into the dry ocean? What happens to the vines and other stuff? What happens to the spores? Why is the planet not buried under spores? Are the moons old? What happens when different kinds of spores meet?

An object in geosynchronous orbit does orbit a planet. It does just take as much time for an orbit as it takes to rotate around its axis. If that orbit is over the equator they seem to be standing still in the sky. Many comsats and weather satellites around our Earth work that way. Infect is probably the wrong word. They just start developing and the problem seems to be purely mechanical in nature. They know what amphibians are. The spores are deadly to animals, too. Charles had pets as a child Technology metals drilling wells machinery that makes exhaust fumes canon

It has to be somebody to whom machines spitting out smog, cannons and elephant seals make sense. That means Scadrial.

There is something I plainly do not understand. The oceans are not wet. OK. Yet they have fish on sale in the market and elephant seals are animals whose call is known. What is going on?

Yes. And there our problem starts. Let's look at the text: That is ambiguous. It is also, if you take it extremely literally, impossible. Either they are low, then we have to conclude that they are kept in orbit by forces beyond unaccelerated orbital mechanics. And even worse, they'd be invisible from polar areas. Or they are approximately at the height a geostationary orbit would be above the Earth. Then you'll always see more than one and there is no way a single moon could fill a third of the sky, as they would have to touch.

Yes, this is a problem. Did you take each of them filling a third of the sky or all of them taken together filling a third of the sky or as many as you see at once filling a third of the sky?

The problem is that the moons are in geosynchronous orbit. We are talking about a habitable planet. That makes geosynchronous orbit not lower than about 20 000km.

We still have Verdant. And midnight suggests the Aether of Night. So it seems to me like the Aethers have been added to mainly.

Aren't you making the natural but unproven assumption that the Iriali exodus from Roshar will not happen in the near future? Isn't a planet about to be taken over by Odium or becoming the front line in a clash among Shards a good reason to flee?

That was my guess, too. Though thinking about it again one thing does not fit. Dan Wells is not on the cover. Then we have to ask which of Brandon's works features a multiverse? Reckoners. Is it possible that the person on the cover is Calamity?

No. I am sorry, but this is a flat out no. They have air pollution from machinery and the technology to blow air out of vents in the sea floor. They can also drill down to a deep aquifer. This is 19th century technology at the earliest. This is further suggested by somebody losing 10 000 men in a battle. Such population numbers are just not available from really primitive technology. Frankly, if this is really the deep past, it makes the Cosmere a much more dismal place, What throws back all those advanced civilizations by millenia regularly?

Do you take the description to be specific to Verdant, that is the other moons do not drop spores?

So, the Aethers produce spores. Can we assume that their ultimate goal in that regard is reproduction? I would think so, but it is not absolutely clear. Given by the description they could also be an inapt form of attack or a likewise not very successful attempt at communication. Nor do these possibilities rule out each other. Does this tell us anything about their life cycle? So far it looks like: moon -> spore -> vine, but there it ends. Are human bodies just the wrong host or culture medium for the spores? (Aether of Night) (Threnody) Is the witch who was mentioned the first one to bond an Aether?

Indeed. It is an Aether world. I do not think that you can conclude that it is the only world with this arrangement. Nor can you even really conclude that this world holds all the Aethers. One - at a time. They have left.

To put it simply is this a place the Iriali the Iriali went to from Roshar or is this a place the Iriali went to Roshar from? I see no way to decide this.

Well, there it is and I get why he said that world building was demanding. Can you have twelve moons around a planet? The short answer is only for some time. It requires a repulsive force among the moons to be stable. Orbital mechanics So the question that opens up to me is simple. Are the moons the Aethers?

Agree. But which respictively whose world? Any ideas? The many Earths on the cover strongly suggest that, don't they? Reckonerverse? Apocalypse Guard? From the frequent descriptions of Sylphrena in a long dress or for another reason? I am afraid I cannot follow that logic. Brandon has committed to a delivery date of SP#4 via the Kickstarter. But he cannot be sure SA5 will come out in 2023. Hence the sequence of delivery dates is still uncertain.

Yay. I want to read them, the earlier I get them the better. And my surprise will be the same whether I get it now or in a year. He isn't going to reveal the ending.

Yet the researcher studying the aethers is supposed to live in an ocean.

I wrote this comment before I started relistening to the big relevation. But it is possible. On rehearing it seemed to me like he told us about a connection between TLM and SP4. Basically Hoid is just not a side character and he said something about SP4 being about somebody we had seen in a series. Strictly speaking that leaves only Stormlight and Mistborn.

There is a certain change that from tomorrow on Aethers will have far more of an appearance in the about to be canonical Cosmere. In what form can previous unpublished books be used in discussions about this topic? And while we are at it, in which fora are the upcoming readings to be discussed and which spoiler policy must be observed?

I suppose they'd look like Lasting Integrity.

The person is standing on on planet Earth. His or her lower legs are obscured by the curvature of the planet from a point a little below the knees, assuming we are talking about a human being. The person seems to be clothed in clothing approximately conforming to the human body, in particular in pants, not a dress or skirt. He would be standing approximately on the North Pole. The Earth is oriented so that the North Pole is quite exactly up. The right edge of the cover is positioned so that it cuts of the southern coast of the Caspian Sea. The left edge is somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean. The lower margin of the cover intersects the African west coast a bit north of Dakar. The person' s crotch is aligned so that a line drawn from it to the equator would pass between Berlin and Warsaw. The northern edge of the planet renders the North Cape and the Kola Peninsula invisible. Brandon Sanderson's name is centered on the Mediterranean sea and obscures most major islands that should be there. Cyprus, however, is visible. Under the hat in his face some bright spots suggestive of a face are visible. Taking this at face value, the person is facing us and has rotated his head to his personal left. The gun would be held in his right hand and a book in his left hand. the book is held with the back of his hand facing outwards and the spine of the book facing upwards. The gun has a faintly visible trigger guard, but the trigger is not visible. It has no stock, though it projects by a few centimers beyond the grip. The "grenade launcher" slung below the barrel does not protrude beyond the muzzle of the barrel. A small bulge is to be found on the outward end of the barrel, looking like some advanced optics. No other devices for aiming are apparent. The gun itself appears to be a tiny bit longer than his lower arm and outstretched hand together, submachine gun size. The globes in the background all depict the eastern hemisphere of the Earth though apparently not all from exactly the same vantage point.

Before the non-Cosmere book. Hence specifically put there to block that conclusion. I'd say #1 is on the Aether World #2 is Apocalypse Guard These are the predictions I would be surprised by being wrong on.