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Furamirionind

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  1. @Sapphire Elephant I now understand why you wanted me to vote on you. I saw the word, but am conflicted as to what it means. I am also unsure if I can share it without giving away my role completely. Are you the same player who claimed the same word to me in a PM?
  2. @Cadmium Compounder didnt you say you attacked Devotary N1 as well? I suppose we just dont know the extent of Temptation's role, so raths action may have failed, but fed back a false positive? Rath, is there anyone you roleclaimed to or who knew you were targetting Devorary? (Sorry, on mobile right now)
  3. Rath would have taken this action while Temptation was still alive, so it is possible he was their target, which is why he was able to target Dev? Oh, Rath said it was a day action right? Dev would have self targeted during the night to avoid CadComs kill, meaning she could have been targeted during the day... So either Rath is lying (I think unlikely), was targetted by Temptation, or there are some weird role things going on we still dont know about.
  4. Haha, if that role was actually given to you by chance, the gods of luck and favor must truly trust you. : ) Hmm, I disagree with this involuntary mass roleclaiming with the exception of Mailliw. If her being a neutral was discovered midgame, that may have caused a lot of confusion, and would make it much more likely she would be lynched. Quick question though, @Mailliw772 do you have a doc to talk in? Ninjad by Steel You can scan? What kind of scan? I suppose for a role name? Just speculating, as being able to grab another ability in addition to a scan seems really powerful.
  5. Well, sharing also motivates people *stares at Xino* to post more. So the pure existance of the role is helpful, as both it being known, and it being unknown help the village. EDIT: To copy what Ada did: Village read Slight Village Unsure Neutral Slight Spammer Hopefully those colors make sense to others...
  6. Why are you telling us all this? Obviously you don't want to be lynched now, but a full confession? Why not just share part of your role's abilities? The elims obviously have limited info on roles, so I think we should be cautious as to how we proceed with sharing our info. People Mailliw Wilson shared info with is a good start for people to trust... I believe I know of 3 of those people, but I believe there to be at least one more. I will look through D2 again as to who those people are, and they are likely to be trusted. Also people with info on other roles, regardless of contact with Maill also look village right now. I checked with the GMs about how my role would react with possible SookSoilings. However, my role is basically not impacted by that role. I seriously doubt that is just a my role thing, so it may help to ask specifically about yours as well.
  7. Haha, Can I tag dead players? Tiny Wilson, What happened to that trust? : P Ok seriously, I am a bit surprised they killed Wilson instead of converting him... Maybe he was too obvious a convert, but in that case I would think they would leave him alive to waste a lynch. Even if we did end up lynching Wilson, they would gain a TON of info as to other roles and code and stuff like that. Wilson was in the middle of just about everything interesting this game. My conclusion is that I think they already used their convert C1, and missed out on converting Wilson.
  8. I apologize for any incorrect assumptions or interpretations on my part. For instance, all I truly know of Wilson is from my LG49 GM-PM, which really wasn't much more than a little RP between Orlok, Wilson and myself, though was biased by the fact she claimed Honour. And I know literally nothing of Metacognition, so that was based purely off of Metabardnition's post. That being said: Your counter argument actually does very little to counter my argument, and instead preys upon the poor TL;DR readers who are likely skimming if at all reading these posts. In common political manner, you use my wording in your response ("Control", "Joy", "Understanding"), yet fail to address the core of my message. In fact, you argue my point for me! Should I keep beating around the bush, or actually address what I am addressing... That is the question... You say that "[Orlok] takes great joy in debating anything". Yes, he takes joy in debating. But what if his followers don't enjoy debating? Are they debated with anyway? Are they rejected as followers? The difference between Orlok and Mailliw is that Maill's priority is the communal enjoyment, not an individuals. Also, what inherant good does that understanding provide? Would you rather be in a community full of people that prioritize knowledge above all, including health and happiness, or a community of people that still care about knowledge and learning, but reconize that the importance in the learning is the people, not the knowledge itself? Also just a note, I want to be clear that this is not intended to be derogatory towards Orlok's community. I believe using Mailliw's philosophy, we should all be able to live together in Harmony. However, I think there may be some fundamental disagreements as the the order of priorities, which is the primary concern. (I also had no intention to diminish your hard work by attempting to summarize it into a single word) (Just reread my post. I love that I just automatically capitalized the word "Harmony". I think I will leave it like that...)
  9. Ok, if we are discussing this publicly, I know of 5 unique names of roles. (One of which is a Super Active) All of them are SE related as well. When I PMed people about sharing names of roles, I was considering lying back to them. However the name I was going to use was "Overclocker" as it is a computer reference, but once I realized the roles are SE themed, I figured this would be a poor roleclaim. I apologize to Crimsn as they have had horrible luck in recent history with dying quite early in these games. However, I think they may be a better lynch target than Fifth at the moment. If Crimsn is actually an elim, this could go far as to clearing players that have had many people roleclaim to them. If anyone has, or knows of a role that's name is not SE themed, you should claim that now! Edit: I always read "Multi-boxer" as comparable to "multi-quoter". But what do I know.
  10. Well, we will see how this goes. : ) Hmm, I don't see a priest or representative for @Mailliw772, so I hope you won't mind me declaring myself as your temporary mortal... accomplice(?) Memoirs of an Everyday Person: Article IV See, each deity seems to want to push for a certain concept or concepts: Alvron - Luck/Chaos Wilson - Intelligence/Understanding Orlok - Control Meta(bard/cog)nition - Honestly I have no idea. Creation or something? Fifth Scholar - Something between Democracy and Anarchy And what about Mailliw? You can get lucky, but what does it matter if you don't realize you are lucky? You can be intelligent, but what good is that intelligence doing for you if you are bored due to said intelligence? What is the point of having control if you can't enjoy said control? The most important thing in life, is being able to use and enjoy what you are given. These are the lessons Mailliw has taught me, and now I consider it my responsibility to share my enlightenment with the rest of you. According to Socrates, the "Supreme Good" for people is the act of pursuing happiness, as happiness is the only thing we strive for for the sake of itself, and not to gain another thing. For example: You don't want to be lucky to be lucky. You want to be lucky so that [insert good thing] happens to you. You don't want control for control's sake, you want it so you can either do or not do actions you do or don't like. The only thing you will strive for, for it's own sake, is happiness. And this is what Mailliw will teach you. As well as other things that may or may not be relevant to this discussion. So join me, and together we will conquer the world! find a way for everyone to get the fullest out of their circumstances!
  11. Though I also don't know if something strange will happen if I target Sapphire... (I don't think it will since I asked the GMs some questions about it, but it might have something to do with Sapphire's main account). If you are adamant, I will try for the sake of it. However, if you are wrong, I will have wasted a turn, and will still not be able to prove I am village.
  12. Hmm, Crimsn's role doesnt follow the naming convention I discussed with one of my (ex-)PM contacts... however it does sound believable enough that there may be multiple naming conventions. Edit: ninjad If CadCom thinks the name sounds good, I will take his word for it for the time being.
  13. Hmm, I am having a really tough time writing this right now. But I will do my best. Most of this will likely be based on D1, as that was when I was most attentive. While I have read what we have of D2, I haven't really processed all of it yet. Elandera -- Getting a general "Eliminator vibe. Was the first vote on Roadwalker. Could possibly be a distancing attempt, but if that was the case, I think she would have removed her vote once a second one was cast on him and he looked in danger of being lynched. Metabardnition -- Calling out Roadwalker for lurking, and placing the fourth vote on him when all other votes had no more than 1. This doesn't seem like a spammer move to me. There was still 10.5 hours in the turn, and only needing 2 votes to tie with Roadwalker is completely doable. Crimsn Chanarach -- While I was feeling off about her towards the beginning of the game, She tried to keep the tie broken in favor of Roadwalker, when the spammers would have wanted it broken towards Guest. Aranduensis -- Looking to prove they have an Eliminator role. This is not something I see a spammer doing as it will come back to bite them while providing little benefit. NotASteelClone --I am felling pretty neutral towards Steel. The Steel/Fifth back and forth was interesting, however I felt Steel responded to the accusations the same way Fifth said village Steel would. Being D2 however, I will need to go back and reread this. I think I am here -- I thought Itiah was suspicious until our PM conversation. I was promised that Saphire would swear allegiance to Wilson to prove Itiah was Saphire. However, this would be a VERY risky promise if Itiah was a spammer. If we hadn't lost PMs, causing the game to blow up, and Itiah revealing their plan, there is a good chance I would be targeting Itiah right now. Seventh Saint -- I am not sure. I think I only played one other village/elim game with Fifth, and I killed him before we interacted too much. I know Fifth and Steel have a history, and therefore would not be surprised if one of them was a spammer. However, I feel like Fifth is a little "off" right now, but I don't know why yet. I will be looking much closer into Fifth in a little bit. @Cadmium Compounder -- I keep going back and forth on him. Between banning Devotary or CadCom, I would pick CadCom right now. He went out of his way to claim something to me, which was a very easy claim and it can't be proved. However, having claimed attacking Dev, that would seem contradictory to what I was told (especially since their previous response to me would imply they are sticking by the story they gave to me in PMs). I definitely want to hear more from CadCom, but currently they seem the most suspicious to me. Mailliw772 -- Haven't seen enough of them to have a definitive opinion as to their alignment, however they seem to be playing similarly to their last game where they were village. Gammalv Fiend -- I need to pay more attention to Alv as he has very much slipped under my radar so far this game. I have a couple theories as to his role, which would make him a villager, however they are likely more speculation than fact. |257|-| -- Not a lot to go on, but I think it is a bit strange that in his most recent post, he goes from criticizing Ada to voting on CadCom really quickly. Overall neutral read though. Araris Valerian -- Neutral read. I personally don't agree with his reasoning on Alv, but he is also likely catching up on the thread, so I wont criticize it too much. High Priest of Lord Tekiel - I haven't played with Rae before, however this seems like a Eliminator!Rae to me. Roadwalker was up for the lynch D1, and Rae voted on Guest who was acting suspicious. It would have made much more sense for Spammer!Rae to vote an a player that already had a vote, as at that time there were something like 4 players with 1 vote and Roadwalker with 3. Tiny Wilson -- In past games Maill has given off a strong NAI impression to me, yet this game I am getting a strong Eliminator impression. Also with being the second vote on Guest when it would make more sense to put a second vote on anyone else for a spammer. He also seems to be in contact with just about all of the people on here I am feeling are village, and seems to be decently trusted by most of them, again putting him higher on my list. Of course, he is also the person I most expect to be converted right now... So there is that as well. Adavantos -- I have been getting a general spammer read from them, but they seem to be trusted by Tiny Wilson and Saphire, so I am going to look more closely at Ada as well. As for Xino, Snip, Kidpen, and May I suggest the Only Joe, I have absolutely no clue. It would be nice if some of them wanted to post more.
  14. Umm, the impression I am getting from this post is that your guess as to my role is incorrect. However I will humor you if you are adamant. Edit: I'll also check with the GMs what would happen if I vote on you, being an Anon account may be something wierd...
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