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Sarene's mother isn't dead. At the end of chapter 2, her father says he is going to get her.

"We are sincerely sorry for inconveniencing your murderer by being killed by him. Please extend our sincerest apologies." Oh God, space is Canada.

Sorry, I just realized what thread this was in and came back to throw up the spoiler tags; I was responding to someone talking about Shardplate and forgot that we weren't in Cosmere Theories. Thank you for the catch!

Here is the link. I'm always leery of a paraphrased WoB, especially one that begins "Not completely sure on this one." Still, even vague and paraphrased, it remains WoB.

Did not see anything in that quote that said Shardplate can survive the vacuum of space... nothing mentioned/confirmed by Mr. Sanderson, at least... My concern is, Shardplate has a slit for the eyes. I guess if you cover that slit with like, plexiglass or something? WoR Spoilers

I am as certain as I am about anything that we are never told what kind of metal his earring is; I have combed both books looking for specifically that information. Also, we don't know which ear he wore it in, or which ear Vin wore hers in (though somewhere I have a long thread where I found the absolute slimmest, thinnest evidence ever that ever-so-slightly suggests there's a CHANCE it was her left ear), or if different ears matter. So... yeah, basically we got nothing.

Ah, thank you for the correction. I have lent the book to a friend and haven't been able to re-read the relevant passage. We now have four people on their way to Radiancy who have clearly read the book. If I may be so bold, your supposition appears to rest on the premise that the exact nine words must be said, like that, in that order, for "the first ideal" to be spoken. I believe as long as someone has come to the underlying philosophy, saying something aloud that expresses this philosophy will work. I believe this is borne out by a WoB I will try to find, which suggests that while the idea behind each Windrunner Ideal is universal, Kaladin could have said similar words and still have "said the ideal". I could be mistaken, but it appears that the basis for your conclusion is that it must be exactly that phrase, said exactly that way, to 'count', and respectfully I believe what we know of Ideals runs counter to this premise. EDIT: Again, I don't currently have access to the book... I believe there was a discussion recently about Kaladin and the first ideal. Did he ever actually say all those nine words, without interuption, all in that order? Even if he did, at the time, wasn't his internal monologue that he was still puzzling it out, that he didn't yet fully 'believe' the words because he didn't yet entirely understand them? I seem to recall him thinking that it clearly didn't mean, "You live, then you die," because that is obvious and not-germane. Surely we can all agree that saying an Ideal means nothing if you don't believe and accept it?

I mean... "from her point of view" is a misleading term, because she was insane. It doesn't exactly mimic the moral position of the Lord Ruler; if anything, she's more like the Lord Ruler than Harmony is. The Lord Ruler decided he knew what was best, and took upon himself the decision to inflict incalculable suffering out of arrogance. Remember, before he ever ascended, he was a sociopathic, genocidal, racist murderer. In the words of his own doting uncle. Sure, he thought he was doing what needed to be done... but he was only accountable to himself, and his "himself" was a jerk. If someone with his mindset and worldview were given the powers of Harmony, Bleeder would have been right. He would have been an incalculable tyrant. He would have spiked every man woman and child at birth, and controlled literally all of them like puppets, directed every thought word deed and action, all in an unthinking assumption that he simply knew better than them, and why couldn't they stop fighting him and see that submission to his greater glory was the only logical step. Bleeder was right... from her own point of view. Bleeder was insane. Goddess's analogy is perfect; a psychopathic murderer who lacks the capacity to feel empathy is also right, from his own point of view, because from his own point of view no one else's suffering matters. What happened to Bleeder might be tragic, but she absolutely had to be stopped at any cost, because allowing her to continue in any capacity would have inflicted order of magnitude more suffering on the world. Someone being right "from their own point of view" is... meaningless, because everyone is right from their own point of view. Villains aren't people who think "what I'm doing is wrong, and I know that, and I wish I wasn't doing it, but I am." That's... no one. Every villain feels justified in their actions. Every man is the hero of his own story. Bleeder was insane. She believed Harmony guilty of crimes that he clearly did not commit. She was trying to cause untold suffering in a plan that wouldn't have worked to foil a conspiracy that didn't exist.

Not in this thread, in others. I've learned over the years to keep quiet rather than engage with trolls; the few times I break with this plan, I attract downvotes. Multiple ones, so it's not just one person.

Thaaaat.... is a HUGE stretch. It was written possibly decades after the Desolation ended, and from everything we know, is a set of parables about ideals he thinks people should live by. In the Vision, Nohadon right after the Desolation thinks writing a book is an idiotic idea. Way of Kings was written when he was an old man, long after his insights into the Desolation would have faded. That's kind of like saying someone researching Australia should watch Wolverine, because Hugh Jackman is from Australia, so this movie should be a prime source of information. Just because someone lived during something does not mean everything they write will be reflective of that one thing, especially when the thing they're writing has no direct correlation to that thing. EDIT: Moogle, neither Teft nor Kaladin read Way of Kings. It's clearly not a prerequisite. There is no implication that she read the book just because she said the Ideal. Out of every Radiant we know of, three have read the book. It is unlikely that Ym, Kaladin, or Lift did. There's as much reason to assume Shallan never read it, as to assume she did.

The way compounding works, you do not constantly burn your feruchemical reserves. Sazed mentions this; the power comes at you all in one huge burst, like allomancy. The act of compounding is something you do for short periods of time to build up enormous stores of an attribute, not something you do constantly as you heal. From Miles's first PoV itself, he talks about how he's constantly drawing on his reserves, not burning them. We never actually see Miles compound. We don't see it from his PoV, and any time he's on screen, he's not in the act of compounding. We see him feruchemically tap from his insane stores, and we see him burn gold allomantically, but to date we have never had a PoV of a person actually compounding, and only one very small scene where it's possible someone was compounding on screen.

This is what everyone assumes... before I saw Bleeder and how OP steelrunning is, I would have said that Mr. Sanderson doesn't make powers this powerful, but I suppose it's possible. I still suspect it's not actually as OP as people assume. For my own twinborn... well, as ever, it depends on the context. Is it in the real world? Am I the only allomancer in the real world? Is it our world but metalborn are a thing? Is it the Final Empire? Is it Elendel? My answer changes depending on the circumstances. I'm fascinated with metamagic so my instinct is always for allomantic bronze. Cosmerically the potential applications are fascinating. Feruchemically... I wonder this a lot, but I think I finally settled on gold. The idea that I can spend a few months, maybe even a year sick, but then never need glasses again for the rest of my life... I really hate that I have to wear glasses. Though several others are tempting, less for power-gaming life and more for incredible, everyday utility. Never being too hot or too cold? Eating all the mcdonald's I want and staying slim? Being able to put embarrasing memories in a penny and chuck them in a fountain? Sign me up.

Also, Sazed mentions that they had a contract, and he's within his rights. I always throw in this caveat, but presumably she had the option not to join his contract, and she knew that if she violated the terms, a consequence would be a submission to his domination. I have to confess, I have serious issue with the incredibly harsh and, I feel, totally inaccurate analogy being proposed in the OP here. I don't say this at all lightly; more than one woman in my family has suffered tragic assault of the nature the OP'er references. Saying that what happens in this book is basically that... well, I feel like it's cheapening actual violence against women. Sorry. Real life sexual assault is much, much worse that what's proposed in this novel, and it's just not comparable. I don't mean to diminish your outrage or disgust, and of course it's a good thing that you think anything done to a woman without her consent is terrible; I and, I assume, any rational human being feels exactly the same way you do on this subject. But this was a consequence she did not initially have to agree to, but did anyway, only invoked as a reaction to (and a prevention of) horrible, heinous crimes, not just killing people, but deforming their bodies and very souls into pain-driven monstrosities.

Nah, Daredevil doesn't fit the model of a compounder... a compounder would have all five senses, and could turn them on and off at will, and selectively. Daredevil lacks sight, and the other four are on constantly, even when he wishes they weren't. I see him as more of a hemalurgic construct. He has four tin spikes that grant him four enhanced senses; like a koloss, this changes his body, robbing him of sight, and perhaps granting him the other physical abilities Daredevil seems to have. As an added bonus, I wonder if two of the spikes are through his forehead, mimicking his costume's horns...

...See, when I disagree with obvious trolls, I get downvoted. This isn't fair.

I might not understand the physics here, but I'm pretty sure using steel to adjust a bullet's path is impossible. It's not like a car, where you just point it in a new direction and it keeps going that way. A bullet has momentum all going in one direction, and a LOT of effort is put into making sure the pointy end keeps facing the way it's supposed to go. Pushing on the "left" half of a bullet will not make it "steer" to the right, it'll make it keep going forward but now it'll be tumbling, which will give it variable air resistance and a more random flight path. A car can "Steer" because the wheels are constantly making it travel forward, whichever direction "forward" happens to be. A bullet gets all of its motive force at once and from that point on forces only act to slow it. Think of it like a car on ice. You're going super fast, but once you hit that ice, (doing the whole "a place where there is no air" assumptions as they apply to friction) it can't push itself forward anymore. If something nudges the car so that now it's facing to the right, that's not going to make it travel to the right, as anyone who has ever drifted over ice/snow in a car can tell you; once, on a very snowy road with a slight decline, I gently spun at very slow speeds for a good hundred yards until a snowbank stopped my momentum. I had traveled the length of a football field in a more-or-less straight line, and ended up facing back the way I came. But, I could be mistaken. If someone wants to provide the physics to explain why a bullet will behave different than a car, I am all ears.

That I know of, we do not yet have confirmation that chromium leeches feruchemical stores. Am I mistaken?

I suspect Tam was trying to talk about when he's trying to Push on something, like when he's climbing the Tower, not just when he's trying to fall safely. The problem is, however low his weight is, all his "stuff" will still weigh more than a coin and a silk parachute. So now it becomes the wind-resistance of the parachute, against the wind-resistance of his body. To overcome the weight difference, he would prolly need to deploy a parachute MUCH larger in surface area than his body... I'm not sure such a parachute could be anchored to a coin effectively. Perhaps if it were anchored at each corner by a different coin? I have difficult imaginging that, with the technology of the time, such a device could be designed so that the Push on each coin would, guaranteed, deploy the parachute properly each time it was used... also, how many of those could he possibly carry at a time?

Something to keep in mind. Miles doesn't feel pain. He stabs himself in the arm without feeling it. He blows his head off with a shotgun. He hugs dynamite. Yet burning gold, just normal gold, makes him collapse. This is literally the one thing he knows of which can hurt him. He finds utility in it, anyway, but there's absolutely no reason to assume that he's decided to experiment with the literally only thing left that can cause him pain and find out what happens if he does it REALLY, REALLY STRONG.

Eh... we know that there's theoretically a way to burn a spike, but we also know for sure it's not the default. Vin burns duralumin and bronze to detect Breeze's Soothing, and doesn't burn up her earring, so we know for absolute positive that the default is, duralumin does not automatically burn up a spike. It's possible chromium works under a different principle but I would be surprised. At the very least, it's not at all a safe guess. Obviously, if someone in-universe does figure out how to allomantically burn a spike... well, depending on what they do and how they do it, if they're currently in a state of "I can burn my spikes", then yes, chromium would likely burn them. Well, I can only think of a few dozen problems with this idea... 1. As has been pointed out, only works if they're burning the metal. 2. Several metals are problematic. If they're burning bronze, they'll know you're burning nicrosil. If they're burning copper, there will be no reaction. If they're burning gold, bendalloy or cadmium, you won't need nicrosil to realize. If they're burning electrum... huh, not sure what they'd see, but prolly enough not to shake your hand, or at least stop burning. Aluminum, they'd have to decide to burn the instant they touch your hand, and even then... duralumin, first, why would they ever burn, second, no real external reaction. Ironically if they're a Leecher, whoever's power works first, you get the same effect; same with another Nicroburst, though if your purpose is hemalurgic theft it doesn't do you a ton of good to find other nicrobursts. (Yay! I'm a llama again! I'm a llama a- wait...) Steel and iron only work if they're currently pushing or pulling on metal, which again, you'd prolly notice them flying or shooting coins, and if you did nicroburst them, you'd almost certainly kill them without being able to take their powers, which seems to be your intent. Tin would prolly work, but if you're shaking hands with a Thug and nicroburst his pewter... well, you already said your feruchemical power was steel, so since you don't have feruchemical gold (and your plan won't help you get feruchemical powers) you now don't have a right hand anymore. But yeah, for tin, brass, and zinc, this could totally work. If they're burning their metal at a party as they shake your hand. 3. You won't be subtle. The Misting, and likely everyone else in the room, will realize you're a nicroburst and that you're bursting everyone. Every subsequent Misting you shake hands with after the first will almost certainly know not to burn while shaking hands with you. Also, since you know about hemalurgy, hemalurgy is obviously a thing that is known, so if you expose someone as a Misting in the middle of a crowd, and that person is later killed via hole in their chest, it's not gonna take the dirty conners long to narrow down their list of suspects. Those are the big three... but hey, if you can figure out a way around these issues, your plan sounds great!

Yes, but that's the standard immortal's lament. It should hold true for anyone of the Fifth Heightening, or the Heralds, or immortals on any Shardworld. Yet we're told that Elantrians are more draining than usual. So what happens to them that doesn't happen to every other immortal?

I believe Nightblood is the final book in the main Cosmere saga to be set on Nalthis, planned at this time. Keep in mind, he writes non-main saga books all the time, so hope springs eternal.

It has expressly been stated in the books that there have been no Mistborn since the Lord Mistborn.

The religion of Trell speaks of Trell's thousand eyes, dominated by his brother's single, blazing, jealous eye. Stormlight Archive

PhantomMonstrosity has found an interesting gem of huge relevance. Apparently, compounding isn't as simple as we thought. Skip to the final section, Inquisitor's Speed, for the relevant data. So, after a year (right? It's been months, if not a year, since Ruin was freed, right?) of practice, with Ruin directly controlling them, the Inquisitors still cannot compound. It's way, way harder to compound than we thought. It's now been... 18 months? Or so? Since Lessie "died". Much less than a month since she took Idashwy's feruchemical steel. I know there are reasons to suspect her circumstances could have been different, but the default is now, "it takes over a year to learn how to compound a metal." Sure, we could invent and speculate, but the point is she clearly does not compound, and even if she technically had the ability to, the presumptive state is that she lacked the skill. It's no longer shocking that she didn't.