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Or killed them all casually with her Shardblade/soulcasting while healing from the trivial wounds they inflicted. (not correcting you, just offering alternatives :P) Shallan took a crossbow bolt to the head and kept on lightweaving (it did cause her words to slur, but it was likely just lodged in the part of her temporal lobe that controls speech). Dalinar rammed a sword the rest of the way through his chest and had a casual conversation with Fen's son. Edit: Renarin got stomped on by a Thunderclast and jumped back up instantly. Mistborn spoilers. It's safe to say that people with access to Stormlight levels of healing are able to shrug off anything short of a Shardblade.

Early guns were discarded for melee weapons after they had been fired because reloading them took to long, not because they weren't effective. Accuracy matters little at short range, but the ability to kill someone from outside of arms reach is extremely valuable. Even within arms reach, it takes the same amount of time to draw a sword as it does a gun. I am very curious about how a knife in the back would hurt her more than the one that she took through the heart. I get that it wasn't meant to be a "real" scenario, but as an example it misses the mark by a very wide margin.

Even bearing that in mind, she never actually takes Stormlight from the gems. During her PoV part of the fighting she remarks internally that her Stormlight is constantly being "topped off". I don't have the book on me to quote it, but it's same part where she notes that the souls of the people she is killing hardly resist her at all and that she feels like a god (and is disturbed by it). I really feel like if the gems were important, Brandon would make it obvious. Why hide something that was explained, as it pertains to fabrial soulcasters, in another part of the book. Anything else would be needlessly cruel to the fan base.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Jasnah doesn't even use gem stones at the Battle of Thaylen Feilds, she just absorbs the Stormlight as if she were in a highstorm. If she needed to get the Stormlight from a specific type of gem then she should not have been able to soulcast at all until she reached the walls where the Thunderclast had dumped the gem reserve.

It's epic, so I got it half right.

Dalinar chooses to become Odium's champion. He is immediately killed from above by a Nightblood wielding Szeth. The desolation is won.

Yeah, I think a lot hinges on how nicrosil compounding works. It will be really strong if it works the way I assume you mean. A small amount of nicrosil and a fairly large amount of preparation would make you effectively a Fullborn. Like you said I guess, RAFO.

Yea I always assumed it was just a F-Nicrosil with all 32 abilities in it. Did he just have Ferrings charge the other attributes then? In the past I had assumed he was Fullborn via Hemalurgy, but from what you guys are saying it seems like he might just be Mistborn with F-nicrosil (not that that isn't insanely OP anyway).

Oh that's right. I wonder where it was waiting for him if it isn't bonded to him. Would it have been where ever he was when he died?

I guess I grossly misunderstood the end of BoM. And how the Bands were made for that matter. I really don't like all of the alternative entry points to the metallic arts that are popping up, I liked that there was a cost to Hemalurgy.

@TheFoxQR @RShara How did he gain access to all of the Feruchemical powers?

Wouldn't Taln have his blade? It wasn't in the cave at Aharietiam. Assuming that it's still bonded to him, we haven't seen it because he hasn't summoned it. No clue where he got the second one though.

Does Kel only have the one eye spike? I always thought he had to have the full 16 in order to make the Bands. @Calderis I agree. I wasn't even convinced he was human until someone showed me a WoB, I thought he was a Dysian.

I can't imagine how much Stormlight it would take to make a concussion bomb strong enough to kill Jasnah in her plate, but I would guess that it is less than it would take to soulcast said bomb into a rock before Kaladin can use it. Additionally, without shrapnel the bomb would likely be very ineffective against plate. A strong blast like that would pose a threat to normal people because of TBI and such, but that would be a very minor thing to heal with Stormlight. It would also be fairly difficult to use since Adhesion seems to be limited to what you can touch. I'm not sure how Kaladin could set it off without hitting himself.

I assume Peter meant that it was obvious because Mraize calls Iyatil his babsk which, if I understand properly, is a Thaylen word for master in a master/apprentice scenario. This still seems pretty slim given how well traveled Mraize is.

To be fair, the quote doesn't say that Mraize is Thaylen, it just says that it's obvious that he is. It's pretty slim, but it's still there. I'm not familiar enough with the writing team to know how tricksy they are.

My issue with this is that the shard blades do change shape to accommodate the gems that were added to allow summoning/dismissing.

Those are effects of burning metal, not tapping metalminds.

The Shin give Szeth Ishar's blade instead. Taravangian accidentally asks for capacitance instead of capacity. Now he randomly shocks people that he touches. Cultivation takes Dalinar's memories of Navani instead. One of the other Heralds died at Aharietiam. Jasnah soulcasts Shallan into stawberry jam instead of soulcasting the poison out of her blood. Kaladin decides not to jump into the chasm, then slips on the wet rocks and falls in anyway. Vasher goes to Roshar, can't figure out how to breathe in Stormlight. Vasher goes to Roshar and then loses Nightblood.. er ..hmm

@Truthless of Shinovar All of the novellas are excellent. I'd say Emperor's Soul and Secret History are the best, but all of them are worth your time. So much this. I've been reading them for about a year and a half. I think I've read MB era 1 and 2 about four times, SA 3 times and WB and Elantris twice each. Ive read most of the novellas a couple times as well. I think I have a condition. Before I started Cosmere, I used to just reread The Wheel of Time series over and over. I don't know how, but books just don't lose their reread value to me.

Bolding mine. Scadrial: "Ash fell from the sky." Roshar: "Crem fell from the sky." Nalthis: "Black smoke fell from the sword." Sel: "Raoden fell in the pool." Threnody: "Ghosts fell out of the cupboard." Taldain: "Investiture fell from the sky." Sixth of the Dusk world: "Bird poop fell from the sky." ... the whole Cosmere: "Shards fell from that guy, you know the one I'm talking about." Edit: Roshar: "Kaladin fell into the sky." This is much better.

Casting would technically be impossible. Bolding is mine. This would, in my opinion, give them license to cast who ever they want and just try to match skin tone in a general sort of way. This does make me curious if the characters would be attractive to us Earthlings as Brandon imagined them.

They killed what was, as far as anyone knew, their god. It seems a bit naive to even think there wouldn't be consequences. Outside of that, there is the obvious turmoil that would come with a change in power structure. The nobles raising armies against each other and throwing skaa lives away was an easily foreseeable outcome of what they were doing and, consequently, was the outcome.

Yes, but what they did released Ruin and killed millions. In this case it's not even a hypothetical, those people actually died rather than just being exposed to slightly increased risk of death. As near as I can tell the skaa the Kelsier rescued lived, well at least up until Ruin was released, who knows what happened to them after that.

@Calderis By your logic the entire crew is in the wrong. They should have just accepted the way things were and let the lord ruler torture the skaa for ever. You're basically saying that any small scale good is a net bad no matter what. Kelsier can't see the future, he can only do what feels right. You are correct though, I do place the immediate good of one person who will certainly face harm over the good of people that might. I can't see the future. As I said earlier, if you have the power to stop the rape and murder of a child, and you chose not to, I don't have anything good to say to you.