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Going by their Divine attributes. Scadrial Vin - Stoneward (Dependable, Resourceful) self sacrifice is also a theme of the Stonewards. From OB Epigraphs. Elend - Windrunner (Protecting, Leading) The last Emperor who just wants to save the world. Dox - Stoneward (Dependable, Resourceful) The guy who finds the money to make it all work. Breeze - Edgedancer (Loving, Healing) His secret big heart, and his constantly trying to make people feel better. Ham - Dustbringer (Brave, Obedient) He's a follower, but a fighter. Clubs - Lightweaver (Creative, Honest) Master craftsman who tells it like it is. Also, his job is to hide everyone. Kelsier - Predeath, probably Willshaper (Resolute, Builder) He built the crew and set out to accomplish his goal at any cost. After death, Bondsmith (Pious, Guiding) It's not a perfect fit, but he is a significant religious figure for several groups of people. Sazed - Elsecaller (Wise, Careful) could also be Truthwatcher (Learned, Giving) both fit IMO. Harmony - Bondsmith (Pious, Guiding) God, capital "G" Marsh - Doesn't fit. He's like a combo. Dustshaper (Brave, Resolute) Wax - Skybreaker (Just, Confident) Cocky lawman, but just the right amount of cocky. Wayne - Dustbringer (Brave, Obedient) Loveable sidekick. Steris - Tough call. Maybe Elsecaller (Wise, Careful) because she's a planner, or Willshaper (Resolute, Builder) because of how determined she is to make a relationship with Wax. Marasi - Not sure. I'll just throw Truthwatcher (Learned, Giving) at her. She's always going on about statistics, and she gives Wax the Bands. Eh.. it's weak. Sel Shai - Doesn't fit IMO, but Lightweaver is close (Creative, Honest) she's a thief, so honesty isn't quite right. She's more of a combo. Lightshaper (Creative, Builder). Sarene - Willshaper (Resolute, Builder) She doesn't give up on Arelon and she rebuilds Raoden's revolution while he's "dead". Raoden - Literally every order. His character might be a little to perfect. Hrathen - Bondsmith (Pious, Guiding) Literally a missionary. Nalthis Vivenna - Can't place her. I guess Dustbringer (Brave, Obedient) she was always the obedient daughter, and she was brave enough to go to Halendren to try and help Siri. Vasher - He could be a few, but I'm going with Truthwatcher (Learned, Giving) He's very Cosmere aware, and awakening is the art of giving. He also gives Nightblood to a lot of people, even if he does take it back from their corpses Siri - Willshaper (Resolute, Builder) she's determined, and she builds a place for herself in the court of gods. It's weak but *shrug*. Lightsong - Edgedancer (Loving, Healing) Died saving his niece. Died again to heal the God King. Susebron - Elsecaller (Wise, Careful) Just feels right. Threnody Silence - Willshaper (Resolute, Builder) Determination again. I guess there's the whole inn situation for the builder part.

Evaryone is doing the Dalinar line, so I'm breaking the pattern. -- He saw her normally in one world, and outlined in blue in another. The traveler reached out and took the woman by the shoulder, kneeled down, and whispered a single word. "Surprise" -- "Untie them!" -- Nightblood when someone asks what kind of dog he has "BORZOI BEAGLE!" -- Galadon, probably. "We're already dead. YOLO?" "I don't like either option, so I just try to keep my self in one piece. YOLO?" "Sule, you're dead. YOLO?" "Not a good idea. YOLO?" "Yesterdays classics have become tomorrow's lunch. YOLO?" this list goes on... -- She took out one of her Essence Marks as she walked. She inked it with bold strikes and returned the box of seals to her skirt pocket. Then, she slammed the seal against her right bicep and locked it into place, rewriting her history, her memories, her life experience. In that fraction of a moment, she remembered both histories. She remembered two years spent locked away, planning, creating the Essence Mark. She remembered a lifetime of being a Forger. At the same time, she remembered spending the last three thousand years trapped outside the pattern. Imprisoned there by her eternal enemy, the one called Dragon. Two places at once, two timelines at once. Then the former faded and she became Shai'tan, the name the fools who followed her enemy had given her. Her body became nothing because she no longer needed it. She slipped from the physical world and entered the place beyond, where she waited for her Chosen to free her. -- OK that last one wasn't a quote, but it was fun so I'm not sorry.

It's also been hundreds of years since Harmony ascended, and Odium is bound to have servants that keep an eye on other parts of the Cosmere for him. He would be stupid not to.

It's not just a concept, it's what Nightblood does, he destroys. Destruction is Ruin's thing. I don't see any scenario where Ruin, who is bound to Scadrial at the time of Nightblood's creation, has an active hand in things. They used a command that required something that regular awakening couldn't provide. Endowment decided to make it work. Seems pretty straight forward. If you want to get really aluminum foil hat, you could ask why Endowment decided to make it work.

I don’t see how Nightblood could destroy one of the Unmade. It would be like him killing the Stormfather. We’ve already seen that he has an upper limit on how much he can drink before he gets drunk. Killing the fused seems perfectly reasonable though. That being said, there is this WoB What those ramifications are could change a lot about my opinion on this matter.

His letter to Frost pretty soundly rules out him being a member of the 17th Shard.

Well if the book is less than 50 chapters, it means that he’s finished a chapter.

@Calderis I'm not sure where you're going with that. I am aware of that WoB. Are you saying that you do think that Nightblood will be as important to the story as the viewpoint characters? I get that they originated in the first version of WoK, but Nightblood isn't even in that book anymore, he doesn't make an appearance until the prologue of WoR. As for Vasher, he has very little page time, and only one viewpoint chapter that I can remember. Like I said, I feel like it would cheapen the story to make them important. "Good news everyone, we've recovered ancient powers that control the Universe. Now lets throw them in the garbage and use this magic sword from another series". On the other side of the argument, I guess if he wrote an entire series just to introduce them, they must be important. None of the SA characters got their own origin story, so maybe those two will be the only thing that matters.

According to the study that took the picture it's 6.5 billion M☉ (6.5 billion times our sun's mass) Here's the wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messier_87 Edit: That link is to the galaxy. The black hole part is in the Components section. It is designated M87*.

Something I didn't notice on my first read of HoA The fact that the end of the book is spoiled in the first epigraph, and I didn't even see it... shame on me.

I doubt Nightblood will be the answer to the Desolations, it's not a Stormlight character. It would be like an Elantrian showing up and winning the war in one day. I get the feeling that Brandon included the characters from WB because he thought it was fun and he knows that the fans like crossovers. I also expect that he wanted to be able to write a little for characters who might not get a book of their own for 10-20 years. Also, that wouldn't restart the oathpact, it would simply remove it's reason for existing.

Quote from WB, Vasher PoV. Spoilered because this is SA. This could just as easily be because he doesn't want anyone else picking it up and using it on him. I agree that the crazy Fused would be easier for Nightblood to influence.

I always assumed the bit of Ruin in Nightblood came from his command, "Destroy Evil". The first half is basically Ruin's name. In order for Endowment to make the command functional she would need to allow it to tap into the forces that are Ruin's "Domain". As for Endowment's "involvement", I've always interpreted that as being the same as Cultivation's involvement with Dalinar or Lift (I think she was involved with Lift?). Basically she saw something that wouldn't quite work within the normal system and decided to give it a little push. All just my read on it, so do with it what you will.

To many of the questions didn't apply to me. "On vacation are you more likely to X, Y or Z?" My answer: "Stay home". "In a school production, are you more likely to...". My answer: "Not be involved". All of the answers are to bubbly to describe me.

WB Spoils

@StormingAdam Just a bit of advice, read the main stories before reading their counterparts in Arcanum Unbounded. Reading Mistborn: A Secret History would spoil the entire plot of Era 1.

While I do like the idea, I don't think that F-chromium works in that way. It's not luck in the "lucky" sense. It seems to work more like destiny. It's like comparing Mat and Perin from The Wheel of Time (if you've read it) WOT spoilers Hoid spoilers (from SA I think?)

Clubs can be the ring girl

Dalinar and Marsh. They could have a killer grump-off. Maybe Vasher could referee. Jasnah and Kelsier, because my brain thinks they should have a romance.

MARSH. I know, I know, he's just a puppet. He's still my favorite. Nightblood. Don't even try to pretend that he isn't. Taravangian. Is a tree.

@Weltall You're not wrong, but it's just a matter of scale for me. A black hole is trillions of times the mass of a planet.

@Weltall Oof. That WoB misses that mark in terms of analogies IMO. It's like comparing getting hit by a frozen pea and getting hit by a planet. I guess he did qualify it with "depending on circumstances", so there's that.

I simply meant that was hadn't seen them do anything larger than move a planet, so we don't know what they're capable of. Given the WoB that Elegy linked, we are unlikely to find out in world. That raises an interesting problem. Can a black hole actually be observed? You can know where one is, and you can measure it's effects on the space around it, but it can't actually be seen. I guess this would have the same effect in the Cognitive since it's still being conceptualized.

@Elegy That actually rules out a lot of stellar anomalies. For example there would be almost no chance of a neutron star existing in the Cosmere.

I wasn't sure if this was a question of temperament, social status or eye color, so I went with eye color. I have light eyes. I am a darkeyes by birth.