Elandera

I think the only way I might have caught you was if I'd played the whole game. I just simply didn't think you were elim, aside from an occasional gut feeling which I mentioned a couple of times but largely ignored because I just thought I was being paranoid. I did kind of notice you seemed to have only skimmed my analysis of Straw, but by then, it was too late. Also, you deserve a huge congratulations for practically carrying your team on your first game. I just skimmed the elim doc and it really shows how dedicated you were. You deserve the win.

@Mr Doctor?!? You lied to me? Dishonor on you, dishonor on your cow! But really, you did a fantastic job. There was absolutely nothing you did that made me suspicious. I wouldn't believe this was your first game. Congratulations to the Guards. You played a great game. I'm terribly sorry to the Pirates for joining and leading us in the wrong directions so many times. Steel, great theme! I loved the write-ups and only wish I could have been there for the whole game, not just part of it. And sorry to all those pirates I accidentally got killed. ----------- Lily awoke with a splitting headache. She tried to sit up but couldn't move. What happened? Then she remembered. She had been wrong. Terribly wrong. Hobbert had betrayed them. She looked around, but couldn't move her head. The room was dim, but not too dark. She could hear someone whistling and an albino man walked into her view. "Good evening, wel-" he was cut short by a cough. "Welcome to the pit of dispair! I hope you enjoy your stay." He laughed like it was some inside joke. "Don't get your hopes up. We've tightened security around here. No one gets in or out without the Count's permission." Lily struggled against the leather straps holding her down. "I'll kill you all for this," Kay shouted. "I'll burn this place until it's only ashes." The albino man just laughed and walked away. "I will have my revenge," said Drusilla in quiet, dangerous voice. "Oh shut up," said Lily. "We're not getting out and no one cares enough to rescue us." The albino walked back into her view and looked at her quizically. "You-- you sounded different," he said. "It's none of your business," said Kay. "Just get out if my sight," said Amy. Drusilla simply glared at the man. "Oh, different personalities all in one petite body. The Count will very much enjoy studying you."

I understand there's not really anything I can say to make you guys believe me, but I'm not elim. I had no idea rum would be used on Straw, but that tells me they are definitely elim and worried that village might have some rum/knives left. I moved my vote off Burnt not to distance myself from a mislynch, but because after actually analysing posts, it just didn't feel right. I didn't argue with your choices to vote on Burnt because I still had some suspicion, but I felt Straw was the better candidate. Walin's vote to seal Burnt's lynch concerns me a bit. I'm now considering a Straw/Walin elim team. Consider: Straw votes on Burnt with me, then switches because if Burnt ends up dying, he gets a bit of village cred for having sided with her. If I died, then he could cast suspicion on the other voters that came before him. I write my analysis, and suddenly he's under threat of lynch again. His vote remains on me, helped by Snipexe who understandably remained suspicious of me. The next candidate for lynch is Burnt. Things are all tied up, so Walin places a vote on Burnt. Perhaps they suspected she had rum. They then use two rum on Straw to nearly remove him entirely from threat. They want Burnt dead because if I died, suddenly I wouldn't be drawing attention away from them. But if either one of us had vote manipulation, it might put us at a tie. Either way, they at least get a village death. I'm also suspicious of the complete trust Walin expressed to have in Straw.

@Mr Doctor, it's part of why I mentioned it. Straw and Burnt are my top two suspects at the moment. Those posts on D1 very well could have been distancing. However, there were a lot of discussions that day. I still think it's worth it to consider if one flips elim to look at the other.

Here's my long awaited analysis on Burnt/Mark IV. I also decided to do a bit of analysis on Straw since his voting this cycle has seemed a bit off to me. Italics are for what other people said to/about them, bold is my own analysis. Burnt/Mark IV analysis: C1 Poke votes Walin Has joking conversation with Straw over voting based on order of list (carryover from a past game) Could be distancing from Straw if both elim Responds to Elenion’s post about working with Miracle Max, suggests the Max should take a more chaotic neutral stance Could be distancing from Elenion Comments on Straw posting vote count Responds to Devotary regarding Max and the order of creating pills Calls out Araris for apparent contradictory statements regarding D1 votes with little justification (only comment during the whole elenion, araris, bugsy debacle) Could be distancing from Elenion who was advocating for Araris C2 No posts or mentions in daytime If elim, wasn’t there to help save Elenion Fifth mentions Mark has been quiet, makes same analysis as above and says it could be elim!Mark appearing as if he’s contributing without actually saying anything Responds to Fifth saying he’s been busy IRL, and agrees with Fifth’s assessment Could be reverse psychology C3 No posts of mentions in daycycle Randuir asks Mark who he’d lynch if he had absolute power to lynch one player. Mark does not reply C4 No posts of mentions at all If elim, wasn’t there to help save Bort C5 - Burnt replaces Mark Says hello, says they’ll be reading posts for a while Says they’ve skimmed through posts, but doesn’t have reads. States they’re habitual lurker but active in PMs where they mostly get reads, and that they’re unlikely to vote unless they’re very sure, mentions Straw v. Rand lynch All of this was pretty NAI C6 No posts or mentions in daycycle Asks if we should re-look into Drake’s suspicions on Walin after Drake flipped village If elim, could be attempt to point towards another mislynch C7 No posts or mentions C8 Mr Doctor point out they haven’t said much, looking into following Drake’s suspicion on Elim, and places her mostly village read I place vote on Burnt in effort to get her to comment Responds to Mr Doctor and me, saying they’ve been more active in PMs and gives gut feelings. Places Straw under “Eh seems fine” If both are elims, this could be her trying to give Straw a bit more credibility since she hasn’t been under any suspicion I respond to her read of me by pointing to last comment in PM (This conversation had mostly been about who we thought to be elims. She had doubts about Sart, Snipexe and Walin. Asks me if I think elims would try to get pills from Max. I said probably, but Elbereth seemed inactive, which I thought was sad because a chaotic neutral player could be fun. I said I was also keeping an eye on Sart and Snipexe. Burnt said Elbereth wasn’t totally inactive because she was responding to her PMs. Burnt asks why Fifth was confirmed good, I said because he was key in Randuir lynch and had pushed for it for at least one cycle before it happened. Here’s the part where she was suspicious of me: Snipexe had claimed Giant to me in the last part of the cycle. I knew Burnt had contact with Elbereth and I asked if she’d given pills away, but was pretty vague about it. Burnt gave a vague answer in response. I said I was asking for the giant who though he’d be killed by elims. That’s the response that made her feel a bit better about me, I’m guessing. Looking back on this, I find it interesting that Burnt had known Elbereth’s plan to stop giving away pills due to her relative inactivity. It could have been elim!Burnt attempting to get pills from Elbereth to help her team Mentions Snipexe claiming giant, but says they’re prone to paranoia and suggests doing a test lynch This seems like a bad move for an elim, because no one had countered Snipexe’s claim. However, it could be another IKYK Says there’s no harm in prodding those who are less talkative Mr Doctor says they’re the more active of the “sleepy ones” because they’ve offered some to discussion but is primarily active in PMs RP about pinata plushies Mr Doctor aks who they’d add or remove from the Hmm list with recent developments I lean towards burnt without anything substantial. States I’d prefer a Manukos lynch Dalinar states suspicion of Burnt because of suggestion to lynch giant Should be noted Dalinar gets killed by elims this cycle C9 I switch vote from Fifth to Burnt, saying there was nothing substantial but a gut feeling that I’d figure out later (what I’m doing now) Sart asks how Burnt will defend herself being tied for the lynch Responds to question of why they suggest giant lynch, saying they didn’t think of how it would be a waste and that they were paranoid it was an elim trying to draw out the real giant. They said they wouldn’t push the lynch but would get suspicious if the giant goes unkilled during the night for too long. I find this a bit odd because it could be elim!burnt setting up a reason to mislynch Snipexe. However, that might now work well because the giant can’t die to lynches. Suggests suspicion of me and fifth because we could be elims leading to mislynches, but is not sure either way Sart suspects Walin or Burnt if Manukos flipped elim Straw analysis: C1 Poke votes Mr. Doctor Has joking conversation with Mark over voting based on order of list (carryover from a past game) Could be distancing Posts vote count Asks question about Six Fingered Count being killed by Spaniard then being revived by Max Not likely Count, unless it’s one layer deep into IKYK Responds to CadCom’s vote for above post, stating if he were elim he would have asked in PM Again, could be use of IKYK Tags Steel asking about secret roles, etc. for Roadwalker Elenion asks why CadCom would vote on Straw if they have no clue about his alignment. Could be pocketing Stayed out of elenion, araris bugsy debacle C2 Suggests attempting to protect Spaniard Coule be elim attempt to get Spaniard to claim (see previous IKYK of Six Fingered Count) Agrees with Bugsy in suggesting Elenion is MiB based on defense of Araris Could be elim trying to help protect teammate by making him appear very village, using another village’s logic Asks HH how he knew Roadwalker’s Max claim was fake Clarifies suggesting how to protect Spaniard is by finding way for him to safety pass scans to village Responds to Fifth calling him out for immediately drawing line to Len as MiB, saying it was based on Bugsy’s statement (Bugsy had withdrawn suggestion, stating they likely would have died if Len had been MiB) Asks Elbereth if they plan to keep reviving after win-con is complete Could be another IKYK situation, elim asking in thread because it would seem a bad idea for elim to fish for how many times they’d have to kill people for them to stay dead Randuir casts vague suspicion based on how Straw’s posts have been NAI Could be distancing Votes on Sart, then says they shouldn’t focus too much on last-minute push on Araris because it was probably because people wanted a solid lynch and it was close to rollover Upon review, appears to be defence of Fifth’s last-minute vote. Could be pocketing Elenion lynched with three votes. Sart in second place with two votes. Straw’s vote could have been attempt to save Elenion States he wished he’d taken vote off Sart because it was poke vote and risked getting in way of legitimate lynch Did he know at that time Sart was for sure village? Sart’s lynch at that time could have still been a legitimate lynch C3 Fifth votes on straw, saying he’s posted a lot but it’s mostly NAI. Pointed out possible IKYK situation with asking for rule clarifications. Points out Straw mentioning Len could be MiB is giving village cred to teammate now known to be elim. Disagrees with Straw stating finding a way to Spaniard to pass scan info to village is largely useless and mostly dangerous. Says using Bugsy as defense for drawing Elenion to MiB is way to deflect suspicion if Len flipped elim. Points out Sart vote is part of what tied Len with Sart Responds to Fifth saying he’s felt he’s been less active than usual, says he doesn’t want to get into IKYK but agrees his “if I was eliminator I wouldn’t do this” argument was faulty, agrees Len/MiB mention does seem elim, says he mistook Spaniard scan as a classic scan, was mildly annoyed by assuming elim by the Len/MiB connection to Bugsy being a deflection, and says it’s unfair to focus on vote saying it was intended to get Sart to take his vote off him, and deflected suspicion to Devotary (placing vote on her) who also voted on Sart, saying that vote made it compete with Len lynch I don’t like his first defence of his Sart vote because Straw wasn’t exactly under threat of lynch. However, there was a low vote count and who knows how it could have swung in the last parts of the turn Devotary claimed Spaniard, Straw didn’t change vote. This doesn’t mean much because I don’t know if Straw even saw the claim, and believing a claim at end of cycle can be dangerous. In night turn mentions Devotary claiming Spaniard and says he’s sorry for not retracting vote Seems very similar to his response to keeping vote on Sart. Could be elim trying to appear village, could be just how he plays Says he’d prefer extension of night Elim wanting more time to decide on kill? Yes, that’s a stretch Randuir asks Straw if there’s any conclusions he can draw from the end of the day other than he would have retracted vote (asked in series of questions from Randuir to all living players) C4 Sart votes on Straw for gut feeling and Elenion’s defence of him D1, commented on voting pattern, asked why part of his statement had been redacted by IM Straw responds to last statement by Sart saying it was mistake by GM in writeup This suggests he was on very close to day-to-night turnover, and my have been on before turn ended and after Devotary claimed, but that’s just speculation Dalinar asks Straw his thoughts on Randuir Straw replies and says he’s unsure of Rand because he helped get the Spaniard lynched but that the Spaniard provided no evidence to prove claim I want to point out Straw also helped get Devotary lynched with only one line of possible reason: her vote on Sart instead of Len Sart puts Straw in Probably Elim category by himself, pointing to defending Len, not expressing views in threat, and appearing under the radar too much Dalinar asks Straw why he’s been quiet Also to be mentioned, Straw did not vote during the cycle Bort was lynched C5 Sart votes on Straw based on past arguments, but also says in second post he might be tunneling Randuir places vote on Straw, stating it’s a poke vote to get straw more active and calls out his voting during the Len wagon was suspicious This could have been distancing because Randuir was under a lot of suspicion at the time. Rand may not have expected the lynch train to pick up on Straw especially after calling it a poke-vote Jondesu votes on Straw, stating he’s more likely to be Elim than Rand Straw reappears, says IRL stuff left him slightly inactive, tags people who’ve voted on him apparently in attempt to get them to remove votes Says they’ll lurk with Burnt, responds to her question about pocketing and the current lynch train Randuir asks if Straw has thoughts on the game, mentioning despite his number of posts he’s been quiet Could be distancing Votes on Rand because he’s in danger of getting lynched Could be distancing since it’s clear one of them will likely be lynched Randuir asks if there are any thoughts because a quick self-preservation vote is not convincing him to try to lynch someone else Again, could be distancing Doc12 votes on Straw I finally appear, state I’m not sure about either possible lynch, no read on Straw at that time and don’t want to lynch active player without having gained my own read. Drake defends Straw, saying Len’s defence on D1 was after the vote was retracted and should invalidate the case against Straw, believes Straw is village Sart removes vote from Straw to Randuir C6 Fifth believes Straw is vindicated by how Rand tried to push a mislynch I call Straw likely village because how Rand flipped Votes on Doc12 for the reasons I stated, and because Doc hadn’t responded to a PM Jondesu states Straw is probably evil, but in the same post he labeled himself as totally evil so I’m taking that with a grain of salt Doc also says Straw is likely cleared because it seemed Rand was trying to lead village on mislynching inactives C7 No posts or mentions during day turn States they’ll have to drop out/go inactive because of QF32 that he’s GMing This never happened, he posted just enough to stay around. I know I’m stretching here, but it could have been there was no pinch-hitter found so he stayed around just enough because he was one of two elims left alive C8 Mr. Doctor points out Straw’s quick vote on Doc12 based on my reasoning, but also states Fifth did the same thing Sart mentions Len defending Straw as either pocket attempt or trying to remove suspicion, but Straw hasn’t done much else Mr Doctor says if they kill inactives, he’d go with Straw or Manukos Considered fine by Burnt (see Burnt analysis for possible conclusion) I consider Straw suspicious, but say I may just let inactivity run its course Rath votes on Straw, partially in self-preservation, partially because their voting pattern, and partially because they suspected an elim was among the less-active players Mr Doctor says Straw has been consistently quiet but offered a few votes. Categorized as mostly mostly dead because of inactivity Dalinar considers Straw and Walin top lynch targets It should be noted Dalinar was killed that night by elims C9 Sart votes on Straw, stating Randuir’s vote could have been distancing Straw returns with vote count, vote on Fifth saying they seem suspicious but not stating a reason This is yet another bandwagon-joining vote by Straw Sart removes Straw from suspicion list because they’ve voted on an Elim, suggests Straw move his vote from Fifth because it’s unlikely someone would knife their own teammate Sart would suspect Straw if manukos flipped village because he had the worst alibi for voting on Randuir, saying village!Manukos might mean an elim member bussed Rand My takeaway After reviewing my top to suspicions, I find Straw to be a bit more unusual. He tended to join quickly on bandwagons against people who turned out to be village, but seemed hesitant to join the lynch on Rand. It only happened when Straw was in serious danger of a lynch. It very well could have been a distancing tactic to clear one if the other died. Because of this pattern, I'd lean towards clearing Burnt if he flips elim, considering how quickly he joined my lynch. As for Burnt, some of her predecessor's actions were a bit eliminator-y, but it seems less condemning than what I found against Straw. My conclusion: Burnt, and Straw. P.S. It feels good to finally get some analysis done again after a few cycles of not having enough time. Sorry if it's a bit difficult to read. EDIT: @Mr Doctor, @Fifth Scholar, @Burnt Spaghetti, @Straw

I can't pass this one up. I'll sign up as Elandera (finally a theme for my name!), an elf. I'll need a bit more time to work on a backstory a bit more.

Close to LyLo is accurate. We have seven people alive, only one confirmed good to everyone. If we mislynch, we're down two people by the next day cycle. That leaves five, only three presumably being village. That would definitely be LyLo. We need to make sure this vote is not wrong. I'm also worried about Straw joining my lynch. It tells me either he's bussing (bad idea at this stage), he's an elim joining a lynch against a village in an effort to make me seem more elim, or one of the people I trust is an elim.

From my standpoint, my suspicions are down to Straw and Burnt. Burnt more so, so I'll vote on her for now. I promise I will provide a better analysis of why later, but for now I'll leave you with this: To me, Snipexe and I are the only hard-cleared. Fifth and Mr. Doctor are soft-cleared. That leaves me with Walin, Burnt, Straw. And I'm with Fifth on this one, Walin's actions are not very eliminatory.

And there's the logical suspicion I've been waiting on. However, I am in no way an eliminator. Each of my votes, aside from my vote on Walin and Rath, have come from analysis of their interactions with known elims, voting patterns, and gut feelings. Unfortunately, they've all been way off. It's why I chose to follow the Rath lynch, since obviously my opinion wasn't accurate. As for my vote on Walin, as I've said before, I was trying to review days of posts on mobile with intermittent service on my way home from a camping trip. I didn't quite see the need to vote on Rand or Straw, so I voted on Walin. If I was elim, trying to save Rand, why wouldn't I have voted on Straw? If I wanted to distance myself from Rand, why wouldn't I have bussed him? Last cycle is a bit more difficult to explain. I still suspect Manukos of being elim. My vote on him was based more on gut reads since I haven't had a ton of time this week to do analysis on him or his predecessor. I second guessed myself with Fifth's vauge and suspicious post that almost seemed like he was elim. I switched my vote to him to see what his response would be, but didn't expect others to join in because he'd been long cleared for leading lynches on elims. I didn't really explain that well the last time because I was short on time. It was easier to just say it was a poke vote, because that was part of it. I second-guessed my second-guess and reminded myself Fifth had been cleared. The sudden bandwagon scared me a bit too, because I didn't want to accidentally lead another mislynch. So I switched my vote. I debated quite a bit between returning to Manukos and voting on Burnt in an effort to save Fifth. I decided saving Fifth was more important than going with my top suspicion, because I think keeping confirmed villagers is more important because it gives us know allies. It helped that Burnt has been on my suspicion list for a cycle or two already. Once someone else voted on Manukos, I gladly switched, because as I said, he has been my top suspicion. Sorry if it feels I'm trying to pocket you. But you and Mr Doctor are about the only active near-cleared villagers we have left.

This was fun! Thanks Straw! I'm sad I wasn't able to focus on this quite as much as I had hoped. It also ended a lot faster than I expected. I forgot about the pace of QF. Also, what do people mean by AG rules? What's the difference?

I'm with Fifth on this. I shall finally be able to do a proper analysis tomorrow. For now, some RP because it takes way less effort. -------------- "You said we could kill someone," say Kay with scathing derision. "And we did," replied Lily calmly. "Not really. He's only mostly dead," said Amy. "And by chinchillas at that. I admit it's... unique. But it wasn't very dramatic. Not like fire." "We're not setting anyone on fire," said Lily. Kay frowned, her eyebrows knitting, but she remained silent. Lily took control again, her face returning to a stony calm. "Besides, he may not have even been the right target. We may have just killed yet another ally." "You're the one that couldn't decide," said Amy. "Shut it before I get back to the fire swamp," said Lily. That was the only thing she could say to control them. After several failures in finding the Prince and Count, her personalities decided to return and mock her. They were being incredibly unhelpful. "Who do you suggest we kill?" "Burnt," said Kay immediately. "We could make her name a little more honest." "We are not using fire, for the last time. But Burnt is worth thinking on". "What about Straw?" offered Amy. "Possibly." "I think we should kill Mr Doctor," said Drusilla in a slow drawl. Lily froze. It was a bad sign if Drusilla was back. There was a reason other personalities had emerged and taken over. Drusilla was insane. Homicidally insane. "Mr. Doctor has been cleared. He's one of the most trusted," Lily said cautiously. "Which is why we can't seem to find the real Prince," said Drusilla. Her eyes were cold and dispassionate. "The real Prince is hiding among those who are trusted." "No, I will not let you--" "You know it's true. You can feel it." "No. We can't." Lily took a deep breath and with all the inner strength she could muster, she shoved Drusilla back into a locked part of her mind.

At the time of the Rath vote, I thought I would have a bit more time to go back and analyse their posts to figure out what who they most suspected and who most suspected them to hopefully get some clues. Unfortunately, I have been incredibly busy working more days in a row than I expected. Also, I don't think I ever said it would give information about Fifth's alignment, just his sanity. I've generally always considered him village. Number two is closer to why I voted on Rath. I didn't fully believe they were elim, but I hadn't had very good suspicions so far. I was willing to trust Fifth who had previously led a successful lynch. Unfortunately, it was not successful.

Hi, I'm here now. I've been lurking today but haven't felt the need to say anything yet. I'm still working to find time to do an analysis, though admittedly that won't come until tomorrow at best. As of now, I don't have any real suspects since I haven't had time to do much more than skim posts. So I'm going to hold off on a vote this cycle.

Understandable. I have been super indecisive today, haven't had a successful lynch vote yet, and recently have stopped offering analysis. There really isn't a great way to defend myself because I have not done anything yet to earn anyone's trust. If you have questions about my actions, feel free to ask. I'll try to explain the best I can.

Well reasoned. My thoughts on Manukos have run along the lines of me believing at least one of the elims is not super active in the thread. Someone there just enough to stay alive, but not super talkative. Your statements regarding him have helped solidify my gut read on him being elim. So, I will change my vote once again (it's getting kinda ridiculous...) from Burnt and placing back on Manukos.

Sorry, Fifth. That was meant as a poke vote to get discussion going. I can't tie your alignment to Rath being village because if the same had been done to me, I'd be dead already. I really don't want to lynch another active and good contributor who has been soft-cleared for a while (I can't remember why at this point, but I'll edit in my past reasoning here when I find it). Mislynches happen. Instead I'll place my vote on Burnt. There isn't anything substantial at this point I can remember, but a gut feeling. I'll try to figure out why later.

Alright, I got my answer, so Stick. She sounds just as confused as the rest of us regarding CadCom's machinations.

So Stick is the one asking about who CadCom wanted to kill. CadCom is also the one who may or may not have known about me being thug prior to my lynch. @_Stick_, can you fill any gaps? Or perhaps it was Stick who was the coinshot/elim who killed CadCom?

Lily walked through the empty stone corridors, her boots creating an echo with each step. It sounded like there were a few people walking with her. And perhaps they were. "Maybe I could marry Prince Humperdinck. At least he's rich," said Amy Skate, a sly smile forming from Lily's stoic expression. "Please," responded Kay Oss, Lily's voice becoming slightly raspy, like someone who had inhaled too much smoke. "He needs someone beautiful beyond reason to start the war. It's the only reason he planned to marry Buttercup. And you, my dear, are anything but beautiful. We all know Drusilla is the pretty one." That one is new, thought Lily as she argued with herself. Or was it old? Very old. Amy released a disgusted noise. "Everything is about Drusilla with you. Just because she introduced you to fire. Still, we could at least try to seduce Humperdinck. He's rich, you know." "Seduce that pompous pig of a man?" responded Lily, derision thick in her voice. "Not a chance. I'd rather seduce a real pig." "What about the Dread Pirate Roberts? He's handsome and daring." "He'd be better called Dead Pirate Roberts now," said Kay. "Oh." Amy thought for a moment before finally responding. Lily was glad for the moment of peace. "Is there anyone we can seduce?" "No," said Lily. "What about anyone we can set on fire?" asked Kay. "No." "Can we at least kill them?" "Fine. As you wish." ----------- Sorry for the double post. People are too quiet. I'm of a mind to tag everyone who hasn't said anything anytime I post.... But on a serious note, I'm curious about Fifth's statement, so ManukosFifth.

It wasn't actually out of any real suspicion of Stick herself. It was more of an attempt to get her to respond to my last PM. She asked me a question if I had claimed to anyone, which I hadn't (see my overdramatic aversion to claiming on D1). She then made it sound like someone might have known my role before I was lynched. I find that a bit suspicious and would like to track it to the source.

Vote count so far: Snipexe (3) - Gancho, Drake, Devotary MightyLopen (1) - Araris Gancho (2) - Rae, Alvron Stick (1) - Elandera

I think I'm going to step in and defend Gancho, though I might not be the best candidate. He's a new player and I feel his response was honest in not realizing village coinshots might accidentally kill an ally. There are a lot of roles with different mechanics that could get confusing for someone just approaching SE. That being said, I'm thinking I'll place a vote on Stick. There was an odd comment made in PM about my role and someone possibly knowing it before I was lynched.

I have no hard feelings against the people who voted on me (despite what that first sentence in the post you quoted sounds like. I was tired). I understand voting based on a lack of read, as some elims appear more neutral than anything. Good point about the soothed vote. Though I'm not sure where you're making the connection with the attack and me. Could you explain?

And that's what I get for not thoroughly reading rules. I didn't realize Mistborn powers were one random per cycle. In that case, yes, it fully makes sense to have a thug in the elim team.

My thought was more for the number of elims it would essentially create. In a game of 15 players, having 3 elims makes sense. However, give two of those elims 2 lives, and suddenly you basically have 5 elims (though with limited ability). That's a third of the living players. On a counter to my own point, that would be balanced well with a thug and Mistborn among village. Feel free to vote on me, but I'd encourage people to look at why beyond my general Thugness. Just because I'm thug doesn't mean I'm elim. If there's a good reason beyond that, go for it. Just for clarity, I'm a villager and not actually encouraging people to vote on me. But I recognize an elim would say that too.