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@danox46 I know that the genius taravangian who created the diagram will ultimately redeem himself but the “above average intelligence taravangian” who interprets the diagrams and plans mass assassinations and jah keved civil war and kills people for death rattles in his own hospitals, I want to hate him... I come from a family of doctors, I have lived in a hospital my whole childhood, for me, that whole death rattle business is Unforgivable!

Khurs then.. the religious ones.. yea white sand, may be someday I will read it again.. I find it ok but aether slightly better I got pride and prejudice sort of vibes here except that the guy instead of being misunderstood, got swapped here.. yes Raoden is basically too perfect! Everything he does, he has to be the beat at it.. Raeth is kind of like that too.. I agree that Kenton has more internal struggles and self revelations .. but Brandon is getting better! kaladin is his best written hero figure so far. While still being pure good, he has struggles and faults..

Dislike not hate.. I don’t hate him guys!! I just did not want to read as much about him! Characters I like in Mistborn are Elend, Vin and Sazed so I had thought the storyline of Urteau will have sazed in the lead but instead I got spook! I found him to be whiny and too desperate to prove himself, stalkery and he almost doomed the city but yea then he saved it too but I felt that his savantism that he caused himself as recklessness!! I don’t know if I can explain it properly but I did not like him much..

I do hate Moash too but I kinda feel bad for him too! Specially with all the bad rep he gets.. and taravangian aaahh why do you have to be so old, one can not even hate you !

Yes.. Dilaf! and Hashal of the Bridgecrews.. certainly top 10 hated characters.. I really disliked Zane venture and spook.. But i hate Straff Venture the most! In SA, i really hated Sadeas and amaram..

Yup.. He can plead insanity that works in almost all legal system. But at that moment, when he did it, oh!! but later, you end up feeling bad for him.. yeah well, welcome to cosmere! Where you can't even hate the guys doing bad deeds without feeling bad for them too!

mehallens.. The amberite blades when strike each other, chips fall off but then they regrow/heal to become sharp again.. White sand, the whole attack on the sand masters was very abrupt.. it was weird and has it ever been explained if anyone betrayed them? The world building was a little mah... I also think that brandon has got much better at the politicking thing too now in Roshar, then in white sand. Too many characters introduced in one go in white sand, all of a sudden the book takes a sharp turn when kenton reaches back to the City.. Khriss insisting on helping him was very sudden, i think she did not even know that he was a sand master then. Also, the way kenton treats Khriss is a bit off too.. D'Naa, like i said, her attempted theft of his aether, which looked a lot like attempted murder of Raeth, should have been more of a big deal and Raeth forgave her too easily, which is very weird. You compare her to Denna? wow.. you really dislike her! Was it her stalking and sneaking and burglaries? I think Kavir needed to be the ones to save them so that readers can forgive D'Naa for the aether theft and for her marriage to become possible to Raeth. I liked Mellahans true, nahan even and especially her father!

welcome to the Shard @danox46 He is quite worthy of the hate.. I hated him more when in edgedancer he just killed that child because she stole a fruit!!

I think Decay imprisoned them. First, he used them to trap Former and then trapped them too.. which does not make much sense to me because they were destroying mankind, so why would Decay trap them and basically, save mankind! Personally.. I liked Aether of Night better than White sand.. Both are very politic heavy but white sand got more tedious to read. I also think that as a main character i liked Raeth better than i did Kenton.. The problem with aether was more in the story about the Shards and the fell twins. I felt that it was too less of it and what was there, was too disjointed and rushed which gives the impression that it is two separate books that have been mushed together.. I did not see the Vo-dari plot twist coming.. but i still do not like it. It does not make much sense. Why would they do that. Why would someone like Patriarch, who had earlier, come across as a wise man, just give in and plan for this to happen.. He planned for a long time, it appears. There was no real explanation given by him about why or how Vae convinced him. So, it came across as a plot-twist for the sake of a plot-twist, which is a first from brandon for me.. Also, the two plots: whole ''selection of the bride'' vs the ''impending apocalypse'' was a little ridiculous and did not mix coherently. I did like Darro, though, i think in the end, he did prove that he would have made a decent heir too.. There was no consequences for Laene too.. I also felt that Raeth was too accepting and understanding of the fact that D'Naa tried to kill him.. especially after the first such attempt. However, i did not mind the resolution to the bride selection problem, because sometimes one person finds a problem daunting when other person sees easily solvable situation.. It was funny and i think the whole bride selection story could be made less intense and more for comic relief from the beginning.. On the magic system, I feel like Amberite and its blade and plate, appears to be similar to shardblades and shardplates of Roshar. They can be formed on command, they are invincible against normal weapons, aether blades and plate heal and when released they dissolve. They come across as alive and the plate when covering your face is translucent. So, i think this idea has been consumed by brandon in Stormlight. Aethers seem to be alive, but are they shardblade-alive or just providing connection to gods.. i think the latter.. So, this aether, if became canon, might be different from as it is now.. Dark monsters/night monsters are also very similar to Midnight essences in Stormlight. I thought that the luminous aethers were creating and then manipulating all those dark monsters, does that not make them very dangerous and powerful and in fact more so than Aether of the night..? I liked Verdant and Bestarin as aethers. But, Bestarin and ferrous are not explored enough..

Agree with you here.. And I am worried about Adolin and shallan too. I hope that she feels deeply for him, but frankly, have not seen any evidence of that in the books. She has not really expressed any deep feelings towards Adolin. At the end of OB, when she told adolin that she chose him over kaladin, that was a moment for her to really express her love for adolin in a meaningful manner. But, we all know, how she said it. It was hardly the heartfelt confession that i was looking for. So, adolin might be good for her but is she good for him? not sure.. Kaladin and Jasnah, i really doubt would happen..

taravangian?

You are right And you are up

*wins by the power of internet*

No to both.. hav and Eshonai

I don’t really like shallan either as in that she is certainly not my favourite character. But on multiple rereads I may sometimes skip or just skim through her chapters but still I think a lot of people really like her too. Besides, in order to understand her, think from her perspective, she puts a happy face over it and pretends but the truth is that her life has been one of the worst of all the Cosmere characters. She has had a very tough childhood, I can only imagine the kind of scars it leaves on an individual when they don’t feel safe in their own house. When their own mother tries to kill you, your bestfriend (spren) helps you kill your mother and your father protects you and takes the blame. The fear the guilt and trauma! And then, her father became what he became! And she ended up killing her father as well to protect her brother! And still cannot confess to her brothers that she was the reason for everything.. All things considered I am actually surprised at how well she manages. But I am not surprised at the troubles that she is facing with her powers. Her illusions are so realistic that she has ended up fracturing her personality even more! Each a coping mechanism! basically, she may not be my favourite character but I find her very interesting too. Her struggles are very understandable and all in all, do not forget all the things that she achieves.. She is actually quite an incredible character..

No to all the answers.. I think you mean Tukks but by description also I can tell that it is not that character.. clue no. 3: - this character is sometimes dull

No no and no clues: 1. This character is from Roshar 2. This character is a soldier

But I think he did say it out loud to syl.... I would copy it but my phone does not copy it.. So I quote He says” I don’t think I loved her syl.. I felt something. A lightening of my burdens when I am near her. She reminds me of someone

Ok guys.. clue no. 1: - this character is from Roshar

Yeyy thank you @Vissy

Rannette?

At the end of SA 5, Rayse is going to be killed and his shard is going to be picked up by cultivation who then becomes the big bad. Her intent is warped as she begins to cultivate her hatred and becomes wrath. Her wrath is then directed towards all the other shards for not helping her and honor and she decides to take on all the shards.

Wayne?

And he might have let it slip that he is heading to Jah keved towards the general direction his house is. And then helaran might have asked him to send a message across to his father and siblings. Hoid might have felt that this is where he needs to be and went to visit. When he saw shallan he might have realised that she is the reason he needed to be there.