Ivory Dragonfly

yeah thats one thing that makes elephant feel off to me present enough to know they need to dodge the filter but not enough to post in thread is pretty consistent with someone whose limited time is taken up in an elim doc with the often more interesting discussion and scheminig with their team mates to be found there like i said i could pretty easily be convinced to vote on elephant too

so reading through the posts of mouse dingo axolotl and elephant im not sure im sufficiently convinced of axolotl being evil and while i could do with more from dingo i respect their rp and feel disinclinded to go after them immediately i continue to be uncomfortable about this post which is their first post of analysis of the game coming in at night four and speculates about the existance of the elim coinshot when no one else was and muse about a sorta lowish number on the elim team size yes they were the third vote on chameleon after penguins large post on it but with beagle seemingly not around for the cycle to potentially argue against penguin or something better to jump on chameleon earlish for some credit in thread when theyve not done anything else up to that point elephant has spent the game filter dodging and while this last cycle has been a little better im only slightly hesitant over their confusion about beagle enough to probably still stick with what i said the previous cycle and vote for mouse though i can probs be convinced to move to elephant that leaves us with the following vote tally i think mouse has two votes from flamingo dragonfly dragonfly has one vote from mouse dingo has one vote from axolotl axolotl has three votes from ostrich penguin rhino

i think i misspoke when i said that as i was just typing it from memory meerkat pointed out to me in a pm that it was swan that had actually done the rioting in question which you can see him tell us in this post so swan rioting meant that their own vote was removed but by moving rhinos vote to gorilla it was a net neutral effect on the gorilla vote while reducing the tally on falcon by one i didnt vote day three so that my rioting wouldnt remove my vote and moved chameleons vote to gorilla which accounts for the additional vote on gorilla and the second removed vote from falcon a lot of people who write longer posts will write them in a google doc and copy paste them once done to ensure they dont lose their work would recommend that strategy use the tags [ color]vote[ /color] but without the spaces

@Fifth Scholarr is that a tineye message or just your own meme

claims in threads have been axolotl and i are rioters because no one else has claimed rioter i trust axol claim as their claimed actions have matched up with my own actions to result in whats been reported in write ups i think zebras pretty much confirmed lurcher meerkat got protection from them when needed and theyve since confirmed that detail in thread and ikykd the elims as far as which turns theyre gonna self protect think that all happened because beagle might have been in the loop of some behind the scenes pms but id need to go and reread meerkats posts from day six theres a possibility of albatross being a thug as they survived a night kill and theres been no claim from a mistborn or lurcher otherwise no one else has claimed or if they have the claim as been vanilla only other things were aware of is a mistborn claim that probably was the reason for a one of the anonymous tineye messages at the start of the game in addition to presumably the last tineye who is keeping pms open as was said penguin was scanned as a village thug by swan according to meerkat thats the only hard confirmed villager so far meerkats read list from last cycle isnt too bad a summary of the state of things i think although remember that confirmed good doesnt mean confirmed right will add that for zebra it seems quite reasonable for the village to have two lurchers when the elims have a coinshot in addition to their faction kill

rip heron pms are still open so they does pretty much confirm theres a living tineye rather than a mistborn having tin so thats something welcome rhino may you be more active than your predecessor certainly an interesting time to have joined in i did a calculation and if we think there could be two more spiked then if there are no failed spike kills say due to the lurcher or by hitting a thug and if we dont lose any villagers to the filter then I think we have two more failed votes away from lylo for what its worth im gonna go look over people again and post once im on pc best sus ive got so far was mouse talking about elim coinshots when no one else was

it wouldnt be unreasonable for a mystery mistborn to have rolled tineye day one and not rolled coinshot or tineye since before finally getting a repeat tineye for cycle seven i suppose the question of whether theres a mystery mistborn tineye would presumably be solved when day eight turns up if were assuming theres only one more tineye or mistborn with tin remaining to allow us pm privs

rip kas leave the arena now and rest youve earned it had already decided from the night six discussion that heron did seem the best place to start so particularly with kases argument here gonna throw down a vote on heron edit thanks gms for the rules confirmation in the tags

other reason not to wgg a elim thug is if said thug gets voted out it takes two cycles for them to die giving them an extra cycle of the spiked and conishot kills

without doing further reading id say mouse is my top suspect because of this post felt odd to me the thought about there being elim coinshots when no one else seemed to be talking about them for most of the game but there might well not be anything to that overall figuring that alb rhino penguin meerkat scorp axolotl ostrich are village unsure about heron or zebra more likely to think zebra village making mouse dingo flamingo elephant the candidates for spiked can confirm didnt end up needing to riot the hyena vote as there was consensus in thread but if it was gonna be close tied vote afair was gonna riot to try and ensure the hyena vote and day three i rioted chameleon on to gorilla which if you look back at that vote tally alligns with axolotls claimed actions too

so i feel inclined to read alb and rhino as village in light of a spiked coinshot cant seem them wasting a kill this far in on an mostly inactive rhino for the sake of a wgg and if you were setting up a wgg on alb then id have thunk youd use the spiked kill not the coinshot who at the time could well have been village

@Elbereth curious how you count this sorta thing because ive seen some gms rule this as being a vote on heron still and others would call it a beagle vote

so for the the current vote tally heron has a total of three votes from axolotl meerkat beagle albatross has no votes presently and previously had votes from beagle rhino has a total of two votes from zebra heron and previously had votes from ostrich flamingo beagle beagle has a total of two votes from penguin ostrich been trying to look at various people like some of the other low actives like mouse elephant and rhino in addition to beagle and heron given theyve been the main suggests this turn ill try look at other later but ive limited energy for this so theyll do for the mo not immediately sus of mouse based on the voting stuff i talked about in my previous post rhino has contributed nothing but a single post where they vote falcon over gorilla or beagle suppose theyve managed to avoid the filter but possibly more someone id wonder about asking the coinshot to kill or if beagle ends up flipping elim then look at rhino again rhino is an improvement on elephant though one would think an elim would be less blatantly filter dodging but suppose ive seen that strat before seems like the main argument for beagle is the penguin post while the key thing for heron is possibly this cycles post at least its this cycles post that stands out as a little weird to me though some of it could be from being low active and so not paying attention and trying to post analysis without having spent sufficient time or something think at the moment im inclined to put a vote on beagle as penguins post seems fairly reasonable and at the very least a beagle flip i think could inform somewhat on rhino will try have more of a look to see if theres more info that could be gotten from either a beagle or heron flip

urgh sorry guys been real low energy the last week been mostly keeping up with thread but emotion high threads and runaway trains werent super motivational dont probs have a lot to add but initial thoughts would be looking at rhino given they were a target but imma gonna wait for them to turn up first if possible looking over day five id reckon penguin is safe given they directed the vote to chameleon with a big wall of text suppose its never a guarantee but imma not gonna stress over that for the moment scorp did have a vote on chameleon already but dunno if id immediately rule them out as spiked though that sorta post feels like youd want to have a buddy post soon after to direct the vote elsewhere anyways think meerkats relatively safe too from previous threads but now seems a dangerous time to attack your own team with the night kill and use your protection when theres still a coinshot on the loose mouse pushed the train to a third carriage and that feels something a spiked def wouldnt risk zebras explaination lite vote isnt too early to be a spiked jumping onna train though and after that not sure much more can be read into further voting inclined to think albatross spiked is unlikely with chameleons go to vote target being them so tldr on reads alb mouse meerkat penguin seem good scorp and zebra dont have enough to put them in the other group based just on the voting of day 5 rhino being saved from coinshot is not enough info by itself and imma gonna need to actually read stuff on the rest being ostrich dingo heron flamingo beagle elephant and axolotl

ah aman ye that makes sense probs dont matter really now but may as well put down a vote on hyena in case theres vote weirdness somehow

ugh catching up is hard convinced enough of meerkats story to not want them dead have in theory looked at all posts in this game not convinced much of it was retained gotta go for now will try post before end of cycle

hi peeps this is an interesting situ to be dropped in figure ill put a vote down on salmon meercat for the mo brb after ive read the backlog

Ugh a little busy right now but I wanted to make my presence known, feel free to ask any preemptive questions for me. The day might be over by the time I'm back, *sigh* just my luck

Poor Lion made it this far just to die now. The elims still aren't going for the claimed Meditationform, which is interesting, but I'm still going to vote for Cream Tuatara because they're more likely to be evil. A net of three Workform gems were taken, and it's quite possible the one still in the stash previously belonged to Lion.

Just in case Lion wants to say something else without doubleposting. Killing an elim Meditationform should give us the votes to go for Tuatara tomorrow even if they're in Workform, or at least we'll never have a better opportunity. We can't rule out e!Flamingo since the chances of a village Workform are decent given how many Workform gems have gone missing, but Tuatara first and then looking at Scorpion/Weasel sounds good. Lion getting a Mateform gem could have also been a Scholarform, in which case Workform or Meditationform are still the preferred gems to give out.

Yes, yes I'm voting Mint Heron for being an elim.

We should have enough votes to win this exe unless there's two elim Meditationforms, but on every subsequent day it's entirely possible the elims will be able to hammer. There's a distinct possibility of an elim Workform who could turn a one vote village lead into a tie and cause a loss. Taking and using the three remaining Workform gems this cycle will make that less likely to happen and also leave open the possibility of the elims hammering the wrong person.

Well here's my vote for Emerald Falcon. Now we just see if the Meditationforms are villagers.

Scorpion has replied in a PM today, so they're definitely not M-I. I can also confirm receiving a PM from Tuatara today that also contains Flamingo and Mouse.

Well N4 was the only time Beagle could have gotten Workform since there weren't any votes removed from them D4 and kills go before attuning forms, so it's either that or they were M-I and have just jumped.