Ivory Dragonfly

I am telling myself that I need to follow my own advice don't you worry

They must be finding water to consume. Health is important, you know.

You make good point.... Hey tuatara are you evil? Are you odium? Should we be concerned? Are you okay? Have you been drinking water? How about sleep, have you been getting good sleep? Do you want me to buy some snacks? Can I have odium? You should take care of yourself okay? We don't need any accidental village losses!

Celebration! A free death has been dodged. The thanks be to the scorpion, and the greetings go to the tuatara.

We wait to see who dies before we decide who dies. Pleasant banter in the meantime makes the time till the end seem less painful. *Insert the sound of a ticking clock*

The zebra speaks truth

No no. Opal prudance. Opalpru or Liopru Lion prudence. I dont know. BestPru. Propru. Opalance. NicePru. Sweetpru. DefinitelynotodiumPru

What about Opru

Oxblood: Have a dislike of the lack of votes Voted swan for the late-cycle vote Apparently trying to work out who Autonomy is. I don't personally find this too suspicious. Something to keep an eye on for sure, but I can understand the curiosity, especially when one has the means to solve this. So seems to me is being voted because they are focusing on neutrals not elims. Interesting. Correct me if this is an incorrect read They do seem legitimately concerned about odium and autonomy interacting though, and that gives me villager vibes. I will note- Autonomy only needs an aspect on the non destroyed planets. Waiting for roshar to be destroyed is a perfectly feasible strategy. I expect them to be more willing to team up with ruin than with Odium Gecko: Violet thought gecko and heron would be unaligned with each other, apparently just paranoia. Released a suspicion list. I'm still surprised I was put on village-ish. But probably more a case of, hadn't done anything wrong yet. Idk if that's alignment indicative, but I'm just always paranoid when people trust me. I'm like. But why. No don't trust me! That's not the point! No! I don't deserve this! Don't trust me unless its proven xD But I appreciate you Gecko lol. I... otherwise actually soft agree with their list I think? I mean, I'd make some small changes, but like, I don't, especially this early none of the reads make me mad persay? They late voted and jumped on sage, attempt to save croc? Probably the leading reading people are voting Gecko I imagine. Also on a planet that means vote reductions apparently. Knew this was coming? So. To me this looks like, put simply, removal of either someone who is paranoid about neutral/evil interactions, or someone who voted in a manner that could be an eliminator defending an ally. Gecko My Thoughts on people: List unfinished, I'd rather not post this any closer to cycle close, especially given there's a vote in this post. I'll work on it and complete it later

I... I think opal lions methods of getting prudence restored are... Questionable. To say the least. But personally I think they mean well. If they are lying about having Pru. Well. I don't see a follower of odium being that suicidal. If there's continued uncertainty, get someone who can check their level of investige to confirm they have a shard. I'm inclined to trust them though. In regards to the other people. Uh... I respect the cautiousness of those voting opal but ehhh. Plum getting confirmation and reacting I can respect though. So it's gecko or beagle at this point if I'm reading this right. I. Will go do a read and report back. Beagle I recall nothing of. Gecko I only remember randomly gut reading me villageryish

I'm pretty sure I've done nothing to deserve being put in that category but, thanks?

My thoughts on violet and opal saying they would have removed votes: It is Sus to want to not vote on an Elim. But. Why would an Elim express this? Why bring extra suspicion because they didn't want to kill a teammate? At the end of the day the votes were there, mauve died. Maybe was evil. Why, if evil, would they bring mauve to have many votes in the first place? Perhaps if sage was evil as well with a more important role, that could be a good idea. But I do not suspect sage, so I do not suspect those voting on mauve were intentionally forcing a tie between two evils. I would be inclined to trust all who had votes on mauve at the end. Of course if sage died and was also corrupt, my mind would be changed on this matter.

Yes. 22hrs ago we were told we have 46 hours. You can talk for another 24 hours. Go crazy. Cycle is not over. The night is long. Still would recommend having actions in, lest you forget when the clock hits 0. Of course, I cannot comment on your ability to vocalise, so if your question is more around the potential for the group of us to communicate and discuss, that will depend greatly on the motives and thoughts of you and those around you. Trust me, if cycle was actually over, and we were not to speak, a gm would have yelled at us by now At least, I would certainly hope so because otherwise, that would mean they'd all overslept with a severe oversight.

Good job lol, I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news. So now begins the game of ikyk? You know what? Same.

Fun fact people... Night cycles are like 48hrs long in this game. so uh. Yeah.

So no hot potato games of adding everyone to the elim doc. This is good to know.

Hello. I am Eris. I am still reading the rules and working out how this game works. Be kind. It seems Prudence is popular. An envious position. To know who is speaking with whom. To control that. Try to survive a while. You will be useful. On that note. I would enjoy being granted pms. Who you put me with is up to your discretion. Surprise me. I will return when rules are comprehended.

I disagree about the lack of lynch hurting, since the roleblock function is quite helpful in tracking down who can and can't take actions when people die. It is also helpful if we suspect someone of being Lews to roleblock them so they can't protect themselves. Also, if there was a lynch and the number of kills apparently available, we'd be going through people so much more quickly with likely no more success than currently. Our biggest problem is lack of discussion. We're more than 24 hours into the turn, and we've had a grand total of three (make that four, I just got ninja'd) people say anything. @Charcoal Hyena, @Azure Mouse, @Coral Swan, @Emerald Falcon. As for who can take extra actions, it is quite likely Lews is in that category. If he has teammates, then likely there is one elim with that ability. My bet was on Crocodile, since they were a step above Forsaken in the scheme of things. There may also be a neutral with more than one action. I can agree with this. Their apparent lack of activity also lines up with fewer kills. D1 when they were roleblocked, there was only one death, and this last turn when they never posted, again there was only one death. Azure Mouse.

(Fifth, that cycle close deserves all the upvotes.) Interesting choice in kill. I have my doubts that came from the Lews Crew, considering there was just enough suspicion on Vulture to cause a distraction. More likely, it was another village/neutral taking advantage of the fact Vulture was going to be roleblocked. If my theory is correct, it would also mean either the Lews Crew didn't take a kill action, or their action failed. I'm inclined to trust Tuatara a bit more because of their action with Vulture, unless Moraine happens to be part of the game. But still, a hypothetical role is not enough cause for a lynch. The low vote count is not a good sign moving forward. We need to get some more activity going. @Azure Mouse was the only player that did not post last cycle. What are your thoughts on the game so far? Also, I want to point something out in regards to clearing someone based on actions. From the original game post: Bolded is mine. As we know all players have access to some actions, this would suggest some players can take more than one action per cycle.

I disagree with this and can think of several reason it would be prudent to not claim. First, it won't exactly help solve much. We know there are 13 Forsaken total, and one player has already flipped as not one of them. That means those who aren't actually Forsaken can wait until everyone else has claimed, then pick the names that have been left off the list. It might be suspicious that they waited, but they could feign inactivity. Second, what does knowing their names actually do? I can't think of much it helps the village figure out, other than maybe a canon timeline, but that won't help us find Lews. It does, however, help the Lews Crew a lot. If they have knowledge or the ability to Google, they can easily figure out who may be more dangerous based on canon. Third, consider one of the Forsaken win-cons of killing Lews. What if they have a similar condition of finding specific roles to eliminate? We'd be handing them a win on a silver platter.

It seems a majority lynch doesn't make any difference, unless @Coral Swan can confirm otherwise. Anyone willing to claim those kills? Though, if the write-up was to be considered accurate, Ostrich killed Albatross and was then killed by Lews' Crew. Even without the write-up, I'd still suspect Ostrich of being dead as a result of Lews because of their claim as a female Forsaken, and thus less likely to draw suspicion away from him. We should get the voting started early to avoid the same last-minute choice as last turn. I'll vote on Amber Vulture. They have been active and involved with hypothesizing, but has avoided taking the lead in a lot of ways. Also, can I just say how difficult analysis is when I don't feel I have a good grasp of rules/roles/alliances? Now that we can be comfortable knowing it's a roleblock only, I'm more willing to lynch on a gut feeling.

With just a few hours left in the turn, we should start getting some votes down. I will place a vote on Coral Swan. The reason for now is nothing more than instinct. Also, we still need input from the following players: @Melon Dingo @Fuchsia Ostrich @Emerald Falcon @Cream Tuatara @Coral Swan

Mouse would have have been able to take an action last cycle, as they were roleblocked C1. That's also the turn where the only kill was carried out by a claimed Forsaken. While this is not condemning on its own, it does provide some reason to not discount Mouse as a possible Lews candidate.

Our conversation was mostly regarding our roles and abilities. I shared my role/alignment/win-con and they shared their abilities. They had access to two Balefires, as well as a few other abilities. If anyone else in the Dark One's retinue has similar powers, it would be incredibly powerful. Also, after learning more about the Balefire abilities Weasel had, I suspect the win-con to kill Lews may be more difficult than it first appears. Which is another reason I suspect Lews has allies.

My thought process was that we know there aren't 13 Forsaken (with how Crocodile flipped), and after discussions with Weasel in PM, those aligned with the Dark One seem very powerful. It would be a little unfair to expect one person to survive alone against 13 very powerful players. Therefore, this is probably balanced similarly to a standard game with around three people on Lews' side, hence Lews' Crew. I don't know WoT well enough to hypothesize within the bounds of canon. Instead I am using what knowledge I do posses of SE and Mafia.