Amethyst Scorpion

PoE is

[Penguin, Swan, Albatross, Crocodile, Iguana, Kangaroo, Elephant]

My personal order is Ele->Alb->Ig->Swan->Kanga->Penguin

Iguana. For science!

Someone who isn’t Cham case me on Penguin, I’d love to be wrong on him

12 minutes ago, Mauve Crocodile said:

I am not elim. I a, am inactive. Those do not equal each other

I mean, so far they sort of do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

10 minutes ago, Quartz Zebra said:

Scorp wholeheartedly endorsed killing Vulture in my PM! But they also said they couldn't go through with it yesterday and only voted them when they were in a 5:3 lead! They're like fifth on my list, but they're on my list! Probably doing Penguin, Ostrich, Croc, Beagle, Lion, Scorp! 

As I said in our PM, no way e!me pushes e!Vulture that hard to you, I had just set myself up perfectly to waffle about it (like Iguana did!) but I hardcore pushed it. But sure you can put me on the list if it makes you feel better :3

Why the heck is Ostrich second though lol

And why isn’t Ele on your list

1 minute ago, Opal Lion said:

 

Meerkat is village yes

Okay. Okay. Okay.

@Quartz Zebra glad you listened to me on the shot today but I cannot deny it was your idea first and that Ostrich gets more credit than I. Ngl I was worried you were gonna try to hero shoot me but I’m glad I was overly paranoid on that front >>

Immensely glad I pivoted to voting Vulture yesterday over Heron. Maybe I don’t suck after all

Then again I had semi cleared Tuatara and I still village read Penguin, I still don’t grasp the case on them but at this point surely that’s a me problem (aka help)

Filter is clutch which feelsbad I’m legitimately so sorry elim team >>

There should only be two elims left surely. Zebra, Cham, Ostrich are cleared. Not gonna say Ig yet. Not Beagle. Though I want to.

I wonder how much of the kill was to kill PMs. Cause I knew Flam was the other Tineye.

I still don’t think it’s strong enough to guarantee a 5p team but w/e

1 minute ago, Pearl Chameleon said:

Rolescanner is a powerful tool. 

Zebra knew of the gambit and probably wouldn't have voted on me. If it helps, Zebra was against any sort of Gambit c3 in our PM, and scorp agreed with them.

Sure, but I don’t think it’s that good. An e!Thug would make a 5p team.

What PM are you referencing? Pretty sure I don’t have one with you and Zebra both.

14 minutes ago, Pearl Chameleon said:

Thing to note:

With an Elim seeker, the team is likely to be 5 people.

Other thing to note:

Coinshot shoot vulture

…Why? To both. Rolescanner is nowhere near powerful enough to swing the distro on its own and there’s no evidence the vulture kill wasn’t a MB, which makes sense especially with a lack of extra C1 kill.

Cham that post you quoted from me wasn’t even directed at you lol. I said at EoD that I’d wagon Kanga for their EoD votes, and Lion disagreed, but then earlier this turn they said that they didn’t like Kanga’s EoD. Hence that post.

I e!read you a lot more before I IDd you :p. I’m sorry if that doesn’t matter to you but I don’t think you expect me to… not use the information I have? Like you imply that player IDs can’t be justifications for votes which I don’t particularly agree with. This game wasn’t designed with the idea that everyone remains anonymous the entire time, that’s just never how these things go.

And yeah that Beagle read of Alb is exactly what you asked for and not an ID read. My e!lean of them is not based on ID. In fact none of my e!reads are based on ID.

6 minutes ago, Fuchsia Ostrich said:

Sorry yeah, sending now!

Also can everyone vote in purple their top three village reads, if applicable. I want to dump some information to a player that can relay it to the thread would I die tn

Like PM you the top 3 or put it in thread 

Nvm I get it

That should be applicable to everyone, if you don’t have three village reads by now what are you even doing lol

@Fuchsia Ostrich

Probably

1. Beagle
2. Lion
3. Meerkat

Though that third spot could be switched out with multiple other people, I’m just really feeling the Meerkat purity clear rn

Well yeah it wasn’t my argument, just was restating Ostrich’s.

I do think there’s a good argument to be made that your obviously different play from last game makes you obviously a different alignment. Was in agreement with Mouse on that one. I wouldn’t call it a clear but it’s a read for sure

2 minutes ago, Saffron Iguana said:

Wdym?

He means that Mouse argued the same point about your different play this game, but he still finds it weird that you mentioned next to nothing about Vulture the whole last turn despite your playstyle and the fact that they survived an attack.

4 minutes ago, Saffron Iguana said:

I actually don’t think I’ve really town told this game

What about the fifteen times you called yourself obvtown and meta cleared  

3 minutes ago, Saffron Iguana said:

if it helps I’m meta cleared but that doesn’t help LOL.  I can’t say I’ve played well for village LOL. Uhm but I’d really like a case on me that I can dissect LOL. If nothing else mouse trusted me

Bruh you can’t just c/p the exact argument I used two seconds ago to argue why I’m village to use as yours smh xD

3 minutes ago, Fuchsia Ostrich said:

Oh right. I forgot that Mouse hinted to me who Iggy was. I had been sus of them earlier and Mouse said a very similar thing and I dropped it. Not sure if the divergence is good enough for me right now though. The notable absence of post-survival Vulture talk from Iguana just seems weird to me from a v!PoV, especially from a v!thatplayer!PoV

I mean, the divergence is plenty there imo. The question becomes whether you think that’s reliable.

34 minutes ago, Pearl Chameleon said:

Whoa guys

Not sure about scorp anymore. Their response to my whole thing was... Dubious, but also they've been making me lower my read on them slowly.

Not sure how you think you can gauge my reaction to your test when I knew it was a test but okay lol

18 minutes ago, Opal Lion said:

Not only that but I find myself agreeing a little with Iguana's negative read of Kangaroo based on how they voted two people and then proceeded to need information to vote Mint. Not really completely sure how to read that in all honesty, but also yeah.

So you changed your mind about disagreeing with my re: Kanga’s EoD votes?

7 minutes ago, Fuchsia Ostrich said:

honestly I'm convinced Dingo voted Iguana D1 as an e/e poke/distance/get-in-the-doc-Mr-Sleep-for-17-hours-we-got-things-to-discuss vote

I'm mostly effort clearing Penguin because of their player ID (the fact that they're not Dingoing again). Willing to relook and reconsider

That would be quite ironic considering Dingo’s inactivity death lol but yeah possible. Most of my Iguana v read is based on my ID read. They’re playing very differently from their recent e game. But I’ll concede they haven’t played villagery exactly and I think they’re a good enough player to shift that if they wanted to.

Agreed here.

3 minutes ago, Opal Lion said:

they are one of my Elim leans, though I can't elaborate much on that right now. (not due to like, lack of time, just due to, lack of brain)

Looking forward to if you get to that. I’ve played badly but I am objectively a bad villager so that’s just normal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ The biggest point I have in my own favor is that I was Mouse’s strongest village read which I have never managed as elim for more than half a turn but I get how that doesn’t matter coming from me.

2 minutes ago, Quartz Zebra said:

Someone tell us what Dingo posted and if that amounts to anything! 

This is literally it:

Which admittedly could strengthen Ostrich’s e!Ig read depending on how you see it

Nah nah that’s actually clutch

I’m ignoring the three village deaths for now because I don’t want to talk about it but Dingo bailed us out and this reflects quite badly on Vulture

I want to sus Ostrich for overstating their anti Heron push but I feel like that’s just a remnant of the player behind the anon.

Ostrich, can you explain why you e read Ig? I’ve found their slot to be quite towny throughout the game

Just now, Sage Kangaroo said:

Not blindly but I was asking to see if I missed something important. Apparently not since none of them bothered to explain the case on them. My catch up was quite quick. 

I am so confused. Where was a flash when you needed one? 

Yeah sorry I lost all will to try this turn

will reset for the night :p.

Amber Vulture

Sigh

Also yeah I’d be fine with a flash Kanga wagon after their eod votes but I’m not moving first cause I’m a coward

Just now, Sage Kangaroo said:

I am not asking because I am against a Heron execution. I am asking if I should be on ittttt. 

youd trust the word of someone to decide an exe this close rn?

1 minute ago, Opal Lion said:

And regardless, the role doesn't matter. it was a single person deciding a kill and I don't see why we need to finish it.

Just now, Opal Lion said:

Amber Vulture

Why this sequence? @Opal Lion

2 minutes ago, Fuchsia Ostrich said:

Ugh. I literally cannot fathom why we are ignoring a player who survived a non-guaranteed-elim kill over the rest of these trains, but I guess it's out of my hands. Mouse I miss you

Because I don’t really read Vulture as evil and I don’t know enough about the distro to say whether an e!Thug makes sense

1 minute ago, Mint Heron said:

Make that two.

At this point it’d be because you keep asking this ngl

Tie is fine except for I'm 99% elims have manip because yeah seems about right

26 minutes ago, Mint Heron said:

Because I was inactive basically the entire turn yet the train managed to persist on me with close to no contradiction. Scorps and penguins votes on me felt like they were just hopping onto my train, but scorp was working on a post and has changed their vote so meh. Still don't know why penguin went silent after I started posting.

I consider myself to be like the originator of the suspicion on you, if not today's train. You being inactive with the train on you I don't think is a reason there are elims on it. It just means you weren't able to change anyone's mind because you were afk.

Penguin I think is v. Though the argument that we should flip them as the last D1 train exists.

14 minutes ago, Mint Heron said:

Why the Albatross swing?

Penguin beat me to saying it but I can vote you again if you want :P.

Essentially they're in my pile of nulls who have disappeared recently and haven't done anything that makes me think they're village.

13 minutes ago, Sage Kangaroo said:

->Why would the Vulture shoot claim to Zebra? 

Then walked it back with a Thug claim to hinder any votes on them. Pearl Chameleon

Zebra is personally one of my more solid village reads atm.

And this is false as Cham has claimed Thug in various PMs since D1.

2 minutes ago, Sage Kangaroo said:

I'm up for Albatross by the way. I do think their effort seemed a bit performative. But I really think Chameleon is much more suspicious than people are thinking. 

I'm pretty sure performative effort is why people were voting you lol

I don't necessarily agree with that

And that's because you don't have Cham's ID

Please kill Vulture today, I just don't want to vote them myself

please have that make sense

2 hours ago, Opal Lion said:

And with Cham, the suspicion on them for backing off of Meerkat and then tunneling someone else doesn't seem warranted in the way that scorp? Put it. The thing that is off to me is the intensity of the push on Penguin without any build up to it in my mind. 

That's funny to me because I was agreeing with you when I said that :P.

1 hour ago, Opal Lion said:

I don't understand how people are still comfortable with the Heron train with how little resistance it's gotten.

I feel like there's been ample resistance the last few pages but granted it's all been from people I feel okay about.

Not quoting Cham's response to me cause they're titled but basically:

• There were multiple ways for them to abort the gambit without also outing their role
• I never said that claiming Thug was evil (and frankly the fact they're saying I did is bonkers as I've known their role since literal C1), what I said was that I don't think 2 v!Thugs is out of the question but 3 would be weird.
• At this point I'm too over you self voting and all of that all the time to bother with the IM /shrug maybe a poor choice but whatever

Cham is strictly impossible for me to read because the erraticness is NAI. And I really don't want to waste two exes on them if they're village! So here we are. 

Points for e!them:

• They supported Falcon's PM gambit C1 in the Mouse/Falcon/Cham/me PM, right up until it happened where they manifested a bunch of reasons why it *could* fail. Yet, they were extremely trigger-happy with this (worse) gambit.
• None of their suspicions seem to have any predetermined thought or backstory, they all look like they're spur-of-the-moment-see-what-sticks

Points for v!them:

• Both above points could just be NAI (bad reason)
• Their emotion feels real (which doesn't necessarily mean village)
  • However I think the tilting is more villagery

I think I'd like to ignore them entirely until we've killed all but one elim tbh

45 minutes ago, Opal Lion said:

That's A whole HALF the game that is not playing. Why are we fighting about who here right now is an Elim. There's only 10 of us talking really. It's technically possible though not for sure ofc that there are 0-1 elims even talking today.

Technically I believe Kangaroo, Heron, and I think Alb talked today. Once maybe.

This is the main problem with this game. And with SE. And why I like extremely strict filters.

I'd vote Alb tbh. Over Kanga at least. But if they died I'd be fine as well.

41 minutes ago, Chartreuse Penguin said:

Alternatively, Coral Swan claimed Smoker and then had their vote canceled. Which means they either actively decided to turn their Coppercloud off for D1, or they're not actually a Smoker.

They claim they turned their cloud off. But whether we believe them is a different argument. They've been so in their own world read-wise I don't know what to think.

27 minutes ago, Mint Heron said:

@Oxblood Beagle and @Amethyst Scorpion care to share the reasonings for your votes on me?

I would case you but at this point it would be halfhearted because I'm pretty sure I'm going to change my vote again. Idk why e!you writes that much about Cham. Like you're kinda just PoE at this point, I have some thoughts about your reads lists being weird with some of them looking like they're going against thread consensus for credit and then suddenly 180ing to being in line with consensus but I really don't care anymore

ninjad by everything on page 11

Heron

Albatross

I'm so done with this day >>

33 minutes ago, Chartreuse Penguin said:

@Amethyst Scorpion, curious how much you stand by this post-gambit.

I knew it was a gambit the whole time because Cham claimed Thug to me (+Mouse and Falcon) N1. So I stand by it entirely.

My issue with Cham is that they are undeniably playing anti-village, but for them that’s entirely NAI.