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  1. Devotary of Spontaneity
    I think Mat is village except with Bookwyrm. Stick is more likely evvvvvil but i don;t want to vote for her. Do feel village on Turtle. Nothing conclusive on Cinnamon except not e/e w/ bookwyrm. Will not be around for rest of cycle. Will vote Stick over Turtle but would be fine with Bookwyrm or Cinnamon. Or I guess I won't/can't. Suppose my current vote for Bookwyrm stays and whatever happens does.
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    I feel like e!Shining would have killed Kas but I'm also starting to think his immediate edit to Xino makes sense as elim. Bookwyrm is doing things that I read as generally suspicious (openly regretting a villager's death, noting that his vote could change in the future, voting for Ash over Xino because Ash voted for him). Can't be sure without anything to compare it though. His most likely teammate would be Xino (voted Ash over Xino, voted Xino today only while saying that vote was liable to change). I'm not feeling especially elim for Xino otherwise though. Still I can start Bookwyrm. I'm perfectly willing to vote for the person killed regardless of alignment. That would have still been true if I hadn't been alarmed by Shining's vote.
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    I did not see Shining vote for Ash at the time I voted for him and unvoted Ash as soon as I saw that vote from Shining. I didn't notice Shining edited his post to vote for Xino.
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    Verdure and Arene worked together with the practiced efficiency of two decades of training, but having to wait until Derrick's innocence was confirmed made it far too late to save him. Ora could only watch from a distance, unable to associate with the apothecary and her apprentice in public (she'd have to stop thinking of Arene that way, they'd finished their apprenticeship years ago and was prepared to take over the apothecary whenever Verdure decided to retire). In the end, she hadn't helped kill Derrick, but hadn't tried to save him either. Not that she thought Dwarf deserved to die either. In the mines, at least everyone understood that failure to live together would lead to death for everyone, but these Spiked lacked that understanding. Perhaps they were merely willing to die so long as they destroyed Tyrian Falls first. Ora had no love for the town, but she would prepare an evacuation through the mines for its inhabitants. Many wouldn't run until the situation was well past hopeless, but every bit of preparation would be important.
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    I no longer think that Shining and Xino are both elims. Xino fought hard enough for survival that I can't see him agreeing to a last-second bus so soon after Shining voted for Ash. The main thing I got out of the ending is that Shining didn't care whether Ash or Xino died.
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    Ashbringer
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    Voting someone just so you won't be seen as e/e reads as if you're evil and know Xino's village. Too late to vote for you so Ashbringer.
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    I don't see any particular reasons for Ash to be an elim other than voting in self-preservation a full 2 hours 20 minutes before rollover. It seems like people have locked on to either Ash or Xino far in advance of when it's actually necessary to ensure someone dies. I do think Bookwyrm is more likely evil but don't want to kill a new player D1. TUN being unwilling to vote is at least consistent with his previously expressed opinions so it's not likely an indicator of being an elim. I've had thoughts about Xino/Shining e/e but that last interaction is strange with an apology not even for voting Xino but for unvoting a competitor. It's notable if there are people in PMs with Shining defending Ash or attacking Xino, unless 'People are saying things' refers to posts. @Shining Silhouette?
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    I had a reason to keep the vote for Conq but now it's gone with the Xino vote seeming more reasonable. Shining's done extensive reads lists like that as an elim and a villager, though this is earlier than usual. The point is that it's not about you, it's to help other people get a read on you by indicating your priorities.
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    Tyrian Falls always needed metal, and so it always needed miners. Lord Penrod personally oversaw the outputs of his mines, but never paid attention to the miners so long as they produced suitable quantities of metal. Drawing Lord Penrod's attention was far more dangerous than mining work, even if both were fatal in the end. Even with 25 years of bribing the apothecary to provide medical care for her fellow miners, every year fewer and fewer people remembered the child who'd started working in the mines so many decades ago. Nobody outside of the mines remembered that person at all, even if they were old enough, like that Koren fellow who seemed to be accusing her of something. As a guard he'd had a reputation of being brutal in his honesty, unwilling to go against Lord Penrod's wishes no matter how many boxings he was offered, though rumor was that man was just as dead as the one whose life Ora had stolen. Would he be chosen as a saboteur? Or would the infiltrators have chosen someone like Simeon Venture (Conquestor), who could go anywhere he wanted and do as he pleased? A Great House noble couldn't be accused publicly, but he could be observed.
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    I'll sign up as Ora, a miner.
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    Likely Stick solo since xino didn't even vote yesterday, though neither did Illwei. More credence to the roleblocked theory. Just because I had been v!reading you prior to this cycle. Your avoidance of voting Illwei yesterday and then voting for me today does make me think you + Stick is the most likely team. Voting for you covers the you + Xino option but Stick is an acceptable choice. Stick (3): Conq, Xino, Devotary Devotary (2): Shining, Mark Xino (1): Stick
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    Stick voting for xino and signing off for the cycle suggests that they're not e/e. That leaves xino + Mark, Stick + Mark, or possibly even solo elim with a powerful role since Illwei theoretically had 1/2 an extra life. Mark is the safest option for assuming two remaining elims but isn't the most likely solo.
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    All four votes were within 30 minutes, and it took that long to write the post because I wasn't going to switch just because Conq said so. I voted Mat initially as a placeholder because Illwei was null and then switched since Illwei had more plausible teammates than Mat. Currently looking in the Xino/Stick/you pool, noting that you voted Xino over Illwei or Mat then switched to Mat and then Conq while Stick voted Mat early and didn't come back and Xino didn't vote at all.
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    I see, noted.
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    I did vote for Shining, but I'm not sure why that means the vote moved for Conq. I've said why I'm voting for you, and I know Conq said that he voted for you because you weren't giving enough reads except for saying Shining is village. I still don't know what Illwei thinks of the game since her most recent reads were invalidated by Wizard being village. Illwei (4): Conq, Mat, Shining, Devotary Mat (1): Stick, Conq (1): Mark None (2): Xino, Illwei I don't know what to make of all the vote switching. If the elims never cared about who died that makes the team pool Mark/Stick/xino, and if they did it's hard to say who since there was backlash against all four of Shining, Illwei, Mat, and Conq. It doesn't make sense that e!Conq started the Mat swing to save e!Illwei since he then started the push back onto him. If Shining's elim it's not with any of the other options unless there's weird vote manip stuff. Xino's still an evil possibility but not likely to happen this cycle. Illwei could be with Mark or Stick or xino. Good enough for a vote Mat Illwei, but next cycle (or ideally now) hopefully things get explained.
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    I voted Mat because I knew I wouldn't be around for a while and thought he was more suspicious than Illwei/wanted to see how they replied. I don't really understand what's happening but would still prefer to vote Mat over Conq since I'm not sure why people are voting for him. Is it just that he provoked a swing to Mat and people wanted to vote to save Mat? I still don't know what the deal with Shining was.
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    Wizard was an odd-cycle double voter so that explains why there was a double vote C1 but not C2. You're probably not evil with Mark at least. I don't know if Shining's the type to propose a plan he knows won't work/ fake not knowing the rules/suggest something he knows will be harmful just to be the first to say it. Taking this under consideration at least. Don't like the asking for help/being afraid to die but it does indicate lack of teammate support. Really it's just Mat and maybe Xino at this point as plausible. Having no thoughts about Xino is notable. I'm not sure what it means that Xino voted for me twice without explanation, especially since Wizard was village, but I'm sure it means something. Illwei appears to support Mat and Shining and suspect Xino and Conq, though that depended on Wizard being evil, which he wasn't and she seems to have missed. What are your updated reads from Wizard being village @Illwei? Mat voting for him makes that team somewhat less likely, but they're not really in danger. Mark switching to Xino is abrupt. I don't think there's any roles that make someone village except maybe unrestricted vote manip/favoured/selfless on a three person team, which can't be taken for granted. It doesn't make sense for e/e Mark and Shining unless Illwei is also evil, which is possible but I don't see why Shining votes Illwei in that scenario. Edit: Mat over Illwei as a placeholder since I might miss the end of cycle. @Archer Mat (3): Stick, Conq, Devotary Illwei (2): Mat, Shining Xino (1): Mark
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    It was more that Mat putting a vote on someone who didn't have any would not have been an efficient way to protect JNV. Not a great reason in retrospect. It would have been easy for Mat to follow up 'want to see if Wiz is defending JNV' by voting JNV (1 vote) instead of Wiz (0 votes) and Conq had even more unnecessary vote dilution. Not necessarily that they couldn't be elims, just that preserving a teammate wasn't likely their goal with those votes. I have been looking more at Shining defending Mat than the other way around. Mat didn't defend Shining strongly when they were evil together in QF 62. Shining did try an unreasonably strong last minute defense of Mat in that game in the hopes that people would think it was too blatant for an elim to do and it didn't work. So maybe they wouldn't try that again if they were elims together.
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    Hmm okay, so Mat didn't jump up to village lean in the second cycle. What do you think of him now?
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    @Conquestor e!Wizard would have implied you or Xino as elims since you were the only people voting for someone other than Wizard. Yes, but why was Mat more suspicious and why has that changed since cycle 1 that Mat went from 'willing to vote' to 'not willing to vote'?
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    Did you have suspicions about Mat at the time? What changed your mind if so? Elim Wizard likely is with at least one of Conq or Xino. Neither of them can be the vote doubler so e!Wizard not voting in self-defense is strange. I dislike Shining saying he would have voted for Mat to "tie" it but now doesn't suspect him. That seems like a way to avoid voting for a teammate.
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    I can see Mat and Shining as teammates (Shining keeping his vote on JNV to make sure Mat didn't die). @Shining Silhouette, who would you have voted for had JNV responded? If Wizard is an elim, interesting that he didn't try to start a new train or vote me after unvoting Mat given that Wizard's one of two candidates. I can't see an unrestricted vote doubler being an elim unless it's a team of two so that's likely not why.
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    Ash and Kas prefer not to, so it will be @Araris Valerian unless @Random Bystander or @The Unknown Novel have a ruleset ready.
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    I knew I wouldn't have much time before the earliest rollover could be and wanted to make sure I had a vote. Dilution had already occurred with single votes instead of doubling up on suspects (Mat voting Wiz instead of JNV, you voting Mat instead of Shining or JNV).
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