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Seems like a pretty feasible theory. Glad I could be the one to inspire it I like how you managed to use WoK prime as evidence, even though it seems like Brandon didn’t want us to do that. Didn’t he only release the book when he finally thought there wouldn’t really be any new info? Well looks like you found some. That would probably be very shadowy. I hope this is the case, I just reread that scene, and that description in particular made me a bit surprised. Like, we have a city as crazy as that, and we haven’t seen it in four entire books???? If Brandon is holding out on a setting that cool, it’s gotta be important later. I wonder if we could use the rest of Kal’s storm vision to try and place that city on the map, see if it lines up with Rall Elorim.

Well, in that very WoB he literally says So I listed them as 10 separate ones

I have updated the OP. Anything else?

Hmmm fine, so that’s the 14 other godmetals, plus 14 more Lerasium Alloys. As for the Shardblade/Plate metals, I’ve found conflicting WoBs. So we have “probably nothing” and “difficult to do, but still viable.” Not sure which definition to take.

That’s verrrry speculative though, I didn’t think it was concrete enough to add to the count. We don’t even know if the other Godmetals are allomantically viable, we only know that they exist.

So this has been discussed multiple times before, but usually as an off-topic discussion in another thread, so I wanted to make an entire thread, just to see if we could come up with a final count for how many allomantic metals there actually are. First, the basics. We have our 16 base metals: And then we have our 3 god metals: Edit: The other 14 godmetals are apparently also Allomantically viable. Easy enough. The tricky part is when we start thinking about God Metal Alloys. Lerasium can be alloyed with any metal to make a metal that rewrites people's spiritwebs to become a misting that can burn that metal. It's a complete waste of Lerasium, but they're still allomantically viable, so they make the count. 16 more. And then there's the possibility that Lerasium can be alloyed with the other two Godmetals to make a metal that turns people into Godmetal Mistings. Like an Atium Seer. This might not be true, as Lerasium and Atium are polar opposites, but I think it makes enough sense to make the list. Plus 2. Edit: If the other Godmetals are viable, then Lerasium should be able to make mistings for them too. 14 more. Then we have the Atium alloys. These are the most interesting, as it's actually an entire second list of 16 powers that we don't actually know anything about. This one WoB is basically all we have: So that means we have 16 more that make the list. And here's where things get into the really speculative. If each of those 16 is allomantically viable, we should be able to have mistings that can burn them, right? Well, that means Lerasium should be able to be alloyed with each of those to make a metal that makes a misting. So 16 more. Edit: There are a couple of other Godmetal Alloys that should be counted. Plus 11. All 11 of those could then be alloyed with Lerasium to make yet another batch of Misting Makers. Plus 11. And that's where I think we have to stop. Anything else would be way too speculative to make the count. But Harmonium can almost certainly be alloyed to do a bunch of things. So that brings the final, ultimate tally toooooooo Edit: Forgot to ever update the OP, but uh yeah, the number is a lot higher now. Like a lot. Just read the thread.

In the case of these, other people are the ones who applied the term 'god' to them. Powerful Being != God. Jasnah can obviously acknowledge that they exist, but can still firmly say that they aren't gods. By this logic, I could walk out into the world, yell "I AM NOW WORSHIPING A MICROWAVE", and then go around claiming that all atheists are wrong because microwaves exist.

Well, we know that spren appear different to Singers VS Humans, (singers see riverspren as having carapace) so it’s probable that if simple perception can change the way a spren appears, high levels of perception-altering investiture probably would too. And it’s mentioned that Syl’s coloring is slowly changing, so we know she isn’t already glowing at a perfect color.

I think I understand your point here, but I’m not sure. I’ll offer a rebuttal to what I think you’re saying, though there is a real possibility I’m misunderstanding you. So you’re saying that because the horneaters worship spren as gods, and Jasnah obviously believes in spren, so Jasnah can’t be an atheist? Just because the Horneaters worship the spren as gods doesn’t mean she recognizes them as gods. I remember seeing a documentary or something a while ago that relates to this. This is purely based on my memory, so this is probably horribly historically inaccurate, but I think the point should still come across. So in WWII, an airfield was build on this island somewhere. This island actually was home to some natives who had had no contact with the outside world until that point. They saw these people coming with their planes, and started worshipping them, as that level of technology seemed like magic to them. After WWII ended, and the airfield was abandoned, they started mimicking the things they had seen the ground crew do. They constructed their own runways, built radio towers out of wood (non functional obviously), had rituals based on the routines they had seen the soldiers doing, all sorts of things, in the hopes of getting their gods to return. Point is, just because these people believed that airplanes were gods, and I obviously believe that airplanes exist, doesn’t necessarily mean I believe in god. Their god is not my god.

Basically the title. Anyone have any good stories? Have you ever sleepwalked? Ever seen anyone else? Doesn’t have to technically be sleepwalking, any funny stories about people mostly asleep are welcome. Was inspired to make this by my brother, who fell asleep about an hour ago, just ‘woke up’ and thought it was morning, so he was frantically getting ready for school. He was almost certainly asleep, or mostly asleep, I doubt he’ll remember it in the morning. He was dumping out his laundry hamper looking for pants, acting all stressed and anxious that he was gonna be late XD. We got him back in bed, but he still seemed concerned that he was missing school. I have many other stories like that about my brother, he is notorious for sleepwalking. I’ll share some more later.

Oh no, yeah, I love it. Sadeas was a piece of crem and Adolin was epic for killing him. I was just pointing out that it absolutely wasn’t legal, it was morally ambiguous, and it’s proof that our perfect ball of positivity has a darker side.

It fits with the Pattern (hehe) of ShallanReveals too. Reveal 1: ‘omg I killed my dad’ Reveal 2: ‘omg I killed my mom’ Reveal 3: ‘omg I killed my spren’ Reveal 4: ‘omg I killed my planet (indirectly by causing the cycle of desolations to resume by sending my herald mom back to Braize)’

I could explain the whole theory if you’d like. Maybe I should just make a topic for it.

I’ve seen this theory before, and this does a really good job of presenting all the info that supports it. I definitely think this is true, and it ties into my own theory about Taln not even being insane. (Short summary of that theory: the imprisonment of BAM made the heralds all go insane, not the torture on Braize.)

right, I forgot.

I thought the Ashyn disease magic was basically canon at this point.

Aight, listen, I love Adolin as much as the rest of you, but I don’t think it’s accurate to portray him as that much of a ‘perfect’ person. He brutally stabs sadeas through the eyeball if y’all forgot. His motives weren’t even super moral, it was essentially revenge.