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Referring to Solace having the Shard of Justice.

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1- At some point maybe, but if we reach that kind of tactical level then all silver could have been soucast to smoke at that point. And if not, Shades have been in play for long enough to do a lot. 2. This was a rebuttal to your point that Ungoliant could just absorb Stormlight, my point is that if Ungoliant can do that then the cosmere can counter as mentioned, if she can't absorb Stormlight then your previous rebuttal no longer stands so the original problem is still in effect. And lets not pretend than an Orc is going to be remotely helpful here. Dragons and Balrogs also lack any definitive way to kill a full KR. Shardblades would handily deal with either. 3. a - Speculation, also Elsecallers. 3. b - That's just a matter of having enough Investiture. But again. Elsecall to Ungoliant. Unsheathe Nightblood. Stab. Sheathe Nightblood. Easily enough Investiture to do that. 4. larger than something that's larger than something that's larger than a man is not difficult. People are tiny. Soulcasters regularly Soulcast buildings without needing any special effort. If not, use Elantrians. 1. Kandra. Cosmere wins this contest with consumate ease. 2. Nearly being the keyword here. But also, Aonic shields, same thing, mass scale. Cosmere wins this contest too. 3. The cosmere could move their entire force to the CR and also be untouchable. So sure, they can maybe force a situation where there is one person left on Middle Earth. I'd still call that a victory. 4. Shardblades aren't mortal weapons. Two orders of KR can very easily fly themselves and also heal from fire in seconds, Elantrians can teleport and also heal and also shield fire and also use something that is not a mortal weapon to kill dragons. Or the cosmere Dragons kill them. 5. Koloss breed based on what they kill, or a group of KRs just kill them faster than they breed, or an army of Seers murder them all or an army of Listeners murder them all or an army of Shades walk through them, murdering them all... I could go on if you'd like? Let's not pretend Uruks or Koloss footsoldiers are going to sway this in any way. And actually, if Nightbloods wielder was taken down, one of the Uruks would pick it up and kill themself and all the other Uruks, so no it couldn't be overwhelmed. 6. Aonic shield, crushes himself. Or Elsecalled out of the way, or falls on the middle earth army instead because he gets lashed there... 7. Kill the other one, create a Lifeless, it kills Huan. Or Elsecall it to the CR or deep space and it's no threat. Or Forge it to no longer have that ability then kill it then it's already dead so it stays dead. 8. Stormfather, Nightwatcher, Ascended Vin, Ascended Kelsier, Nightblood... Also if you're saying they're the same strength as a pantheon then they'd also be a pantheon and thus not allowed. But actually I thought you were the one who suggested no pantheon, if you're ok with a Pantheon then the God Beyond instantly kills everything on the Middle earth side and it becomes a battle between gods, which there is no way to rule one way or another so Stalemate. EDIT: Final note - Even if you managed to destroy the bodies of everyone in the cosmere, the army is going to be comprised of Invested individuals which means they could all stick around as cognitive shadows. Best case scenario would be a stalemate, it would be literally impossible for them to win.

1- Which they have no idea would do anything. But sure, my point is that Shades can counter specific things, not that they'd unilaterally win the war. 2. Then Leechers can possibly leech Unlight the way they can other Investiture, Dhakor monks can cancel it the way they can Aons, Knights Radiant can potentailly absorb it the way they do Stormlight... 3. Any of the above could do so. If Nightblood can't eat the Unlight then Ungoliant can't eat Stormlight use KRs. If it can eat the Unlight then it's eating the Unlight not it's wielders Investiture. Unless you're saying Unlight isn't powerful enough by itself to power Nightblood (Which I disagree with) but then others can definitely handle it. 4. Until it gets Soulcast the next second. Yeah as mentioned, Stormlight is potentially an issue but as mentioned, plenty of other options. Nightblood kills. Nightblood kills. We said no pantheons this time. Scadrial also has FTL capabilities. Alternatively, Vin uses the Mists and then: Vin kills. Alternatively alternatively: Cosmere forces evacuate to the CR, an Iron compounder creates a black hole. Cosmere wins.

Shades can't be hurt, they approach and still kill her. Elsecaller teleports and still banishes her. Nightblood eats the Unlight and still disintegrates her. Windrunner continues to heal and still banishes her. With enough Stormlight it's possible, whether that amount would be available or not is debatable, and the same restriction applies to Windrunners Lashing her, but still plenty of options.

The Shard thing I'd really like some explanation for, because yeah casually dropping a Shard isn't something that should be glossed over. The Kaiju I'm going to need to check with Mraize. I worry that this is just going to make more people want to imitate the DA and have their own research facilities and Kaijuu hidden as well, and Kaijuu aren't as exciting when everyone has one in their basement.

Yeah time travel is really not something I want to introduce. Way too many problems start.

About 100% sure Nightblood could destroy them all as could Shardblades probably. Shades would operate under the same principal in Middle Earth. Gets touched by a Shade and dies Gets Elsecalled into the CR and starves. Gets hit by Nightblood and disintegrates. Gets Lashed into space and vanishes.

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I mean it seems the logical thing to do doesn't it?

I'm not entirely sure if we have a dedicated shipping thread, but probably just a new thread in the SA subforum: https://www.17thshard.com/forum/forum/19-stormlight-archive/

Nifflers are clearly the best characters. I'm still unsure why the entire rest of the books weren't about them when they were revealed. But I think it might be because the entire HP series is just a prequel to Nifflers. To contrast how boring wizards are. That is all.

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