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A few additional reasons, the interbreeding of skaa and noblemen would have diluted it even further, most of the skaa had no allomancy genes whatsoever so the genes were further bred out through that, plus Mistborn were always pretty rare anyway, there's nothing to say that they're impossible at the moment, just very, very, very rare (One every few generations perhaps)

The latter yeah, although not officially until I get a doctorate Yeah, manipulating sound is something you can cover in first year physics, manipulating DNA takes an entire degree and even then you generally only know a very limited number of its applications. Ask even the most advanced molecular biologists and geneticists on the planet how to make a bacteria that eats ash and an awful lot of them would draw a blank.

And Shinys harem is growing faster than Neverthere's lack of good judgement skills.

Well I do have 153 Pokemon-themed Epics if we need more members...

Cornucopia smiled serenely at Atrophy before replying. "Unless you want the offending limb to be removed from the rest of your body, I'd suggest you avoid cutting any of my plants." She said, retaining her smile. "I need to oversee their treatment in any event, but I'm sure you won't object to an hour of my company." The captain scurried backwards from the two Epics, unwilling it seemed to get in the middle of any potential arguments. A wise man then, perhaps he should be promoted. She thought idly before returning her icy stare to Atrophy. Given that the offenders attacked one of my fields I'd really like to begin their... interrogation as soon as possible. One hand reached idly into a pocket, thumbing the collection of seeds she held there. Rose bushes should give a nice effect, and the bodies nitrogen levels should give them some lovely coloring. And I have been in the mood to add some a splash of blood red into the garden somewhere. She lifted one arm lightly into the air, arching an eyebrow along with it. "You may escort me now, Mr. Atrophy."

I don't know about killing him but she'll shortly be demonstrating her method for dealing with people who attack her stuff.

I've always thought that most Iron/Steel mistings should be pretty amazing shots, they have little blue guidelines pointing out most targets after all.

Welcome to the insanity that we fondly refer to as the Seventeenth Shard. So what have you read so far? Just Stormlight? Also, would you care for a welcome-cookie?

You hear that everyone? Every minute you're not posting is another minute Nighthound stays alive. Write! Write like your lives depend upon it!

I vote for Hoid. Because we all know he has an account here under one pseudonym or another.

Fixed that for you.

Yeah sorry, reading the old WoB where he caused us all a mess of confusion by referring to it as compounding so I guess the term was stuck in my head. For reference the WoB:

Except that as mentioned the more you compound the more you lose, compounding it to a few million times faster would probably take a few billion hours of speed. Probably possible still for a compounder but you'd need to be swallowing steel rings by the handful then burning and re-storing. And there's also the problem of your metalminds getting prohibitively large. It's all pretty academic though since you'd self-combust long before you hit the speed of light, friction being the annoying thing that it is and all.

Well compounding a trait like that reduces its effectiveness, turning ten hours of going at half speed into one hour of speed wouldn't give you 5x, it'd be more like 4 and a bit times. So I imagine that you probably couldn't get enough speed in a lifetime to compound enough to even reach the speed of light, let alone any more.

Just to respond on the subject of Miles, while I agree that even if he could do something cool with his allomancy he'd be unlikely to experiment enough to try I meant more as to why Wax doesn't consider it to be a potential problem worth mentioning. So either Wax doesn't know that you can compound allomancy (Which is a pretty big deal, especially with what we've found out about his grandmother) which would mean the information would have to be extremely limited, or else he knew that Miles could but knew that it was useless but in the latter case I feel like it still should have been mentioned at some point. So yeah, for me I just find it difficult to believe that a character as knowledgeable as Wax wouldn't know about this kind of compounding if it was this simple. He knows that the Lord Ruler compounded to achieve immortality and likely also knows that TLR was an extremely powerful allomancer so it would seem pretty likely that he'd at least speculate about it. I think Nicrosil certainly has more potential ramifications than just allomantic compounding, particularly given how tight-lipped Brandon is about it, I just think that it also plays a part in compounding.

Sorry, must have missed it on the first readthrough, the numbers are currently unknown but I'd guess there are at least a few compounders so it seems strange that it hasn't been mentioned yet still, particularly given that there's no way to tell just what could happen when you compound certain allomantic traits. You mention Miles' allomantic ability being pretty useless but that's just at normal strength, what would increased strength in gold even do? Off the top of my head a few potentially interesting applications would be using it like a SoulStamp, changing your personality completely to one of those other lives, potentially gaining new skills and abilities. Heck for all we know it might result in physically cloning yourself (Though that'd obviously be at the farther reaches of plausibility) So it seems odd that it was never even mentioned as a potential problem, unless Wax already knew exactly what compounding Allomantic gold did I suppose, but I don't see why he would. Nicrosil's effect was already known to be storing Investiture, it's just the details that were unclear, but even before the MAG people were speculating that it could be used for compounding allomancy. Yes the MAG isn't the best source of canon but Brandon did assist in it's creation so it's still more canonical than nothing. On the WoB, when I said it changes the metal this: Is what I was referring to. So yeah, not suggesting the metal is altered atomically or anything. My point is more that all three metallic systems share the 16 metals, by feruchemically charging a metal you're essentially (From a metallic arts point of view) creating an entirely new metal, and yet there's no way to do this in reverse since Allomancy doesn't change the metals in any way (Other than destroying them) so there's no clear way to compound allomancy, I just feel that any method to do so would be more complicated than simply tapping a metalmind while burning. (Actually, on that point I'd raise an issue that Inquisitors would have done exactly that pretty frequently, if they had feruchemical steel and normal steel (Which they're burning all the time for their sight to work) then by this system any time they tapped their speed it should have just become extra steelpushing power) So I think it might work similarly to the system you described but I think there might still be a missing step. I think I understand what you're saying in that last bit but I think my view is just that there's no reason that the feruchemical charge should be interpreted/ allomantically at that point, just like burning two metals at the same time presents no problem I don't see why tapping a metalmind of the same type should change the power you receive from the metalmind. I'll try to dig up a few WoBs to better show my reasoning but I guess it ultimately just amounts to a difference of opinion.

In spite of the fact that as was mention there explicitly are fish, I choose to adopt this theory anyway.

The work that Brandon collaborated on? Yeah I guess I did, it's more canonical than citing nothing. And again, a little civility goes a long way. No, I'm calling it reverse compounding because that's what it's colloquially called. I wasn't on the naming committee or anything. Also I hold a patent on being false? I guess that's cool. But I'll refer you again to your own statement about confusing opinion with fact here. I never said it has to be analogous, merely that if you're making a theory based on it being analogous then the fact that it's not analogous is potentially a bit of a problem. I seriously don't know how to respond to the rest but I feel like you're getting a bit personal here so I'm gonna step back a bit, I'm not attacking anyone here or even necessarily disagreeing, I don't have much time for theorising at the moment so I mostly just add little pieces of advice now to help other people narrow their theory as best they can, I've never asserted that anything I say is the absolute, only canonical truth, I trust that people can usually tell the difference between opinion and fact but again neither of the things I stated that you responded to were in any way opinion, the first we have direct confirmation of, the second is that if you want a perfect analogue you need to do the same thing in reverse, I never stated that's how it has to be.

I've been assuming that Mistborn was a hemalurgic creation but it could be natural I guess, but even so if they don't exist at the current point in Scadrials timeline it'd still currently be all.

Well the logical conclusion would be that harmonys Shardpool is silvery metallic so if it was reflecting the sky it could appear blue I guess? That's all I can think of since it seems unlikely that another Shard could open up a Shardpool without Harmony being aware of it.

Well the primary reason I'd say it should be more complicated is that we have yet to see anyone do it, we don't even know that that's what TLR was doing wheras we've seen multiple people compound feruchemical traits. But honestly it's because I think the key lies completely in Nicrosil used feruchemically, the MAG pretty much states that that's how you use feruchemy to power allomancy and it's pretty easy to see why, I don't see the need to come up with another solution to a problem that's basically already been solved is all. That WoB doesn't prove anything wrong, just that the trait also needs to be yours in order to access it. And for reference when Vin tries she explicitly does sense another power source, albeit one she can't access, just like any feruchemist does when it's not their metalmind. Yes it's still there, but in regular compounding the feruchemical charge overwrites it. That part about not having to charge it doesn't follow, regular compounding still absolutely requires you to charge the metal first, the metal doesn't intrinsically have both powers in it, you have to give it the second. And I see no reason why this should be different in reverse.

Well that's ok then.

I watched the first two I think, haven't gotten around to the third episode yet and that's probably when I'll decide if I'm going to keep watching it or drop it but I didn't find it the least bit confusing. I guess after following the time and character POV jumps in epic fantasy series you don't find it all that difficult.

Cognitive shadows? *Narrows gaze* Are you suggesting that the Reckoners is cosmere?

Since it never seems to matter what I do during an interview I am doing one or all of these at my next one, if I'm going to mess it up might as well have fun doing it.