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I wish there was a way to test it. But did you not notice in that WOB that when the questioner said melt Brandon said distill? I found the word choice important given the topic I introduced. Speaking of initiating phase changes in matter, there are other methods of converting solids to liquid or gas besides thermal energy. I believe pressure manipulation is one way but I'm no expert. The last science class I took was like 15 years ago. Can someone think of any others? That may give us a clue as to how an inhabitant of Cosmere space could go about inducing phase changes in Investiture. As of now we only see naturally occurring Investiture, or at least Shard-guided.

Even if, and its a very big if, Jasnah can in fact soulcast Syl its going to be a one shot maneuver, taking all her available Stormlight to overcome the resistance of Soulcasting a being of pure Investiture. Soulcasting aluminum would be loads easier and it's going to affect someone even in Plate. But although she will need no overt gestures to do so, there's no hiding her intentions from a being that can see into the Cognitive. Syl can serve as a warning system thus allowing him to avoid some of her more nasty uses of the Soulcast arts. Not foolproof of course, but it could give Kaladin a slight defensive edge. As far as the WOB, I read it but don't have time to research it in the coppermind. But I distinctly remember the saying 2 entities, one soul, merging as it were. Yes @Calderis, Connection is involved I believe, but as the mechanism by which the merger takes place, at least from my understanding. Like I said, Jasnah has the edge with Stormlight, though I don't believe it's as one sided as some believe. Without Stormlight the advantage reverses.

Once aluminum is introduced to the battlefield it becomes a danger to either Radiant. Jasnah can make it but Kaladin isn't unfamiliar with it. And no matter how much Soulcasting she has she ain't beating Kaladin if it comes to a hand to hand fight. As long as the Stormlight holds out Jasnah has the advantage. She has power at range and can Transport, strike, and move. But she doesn't have true battlefield experience while Kal has tons. If Kaladin can avoid Jasnah's attacks until she stops glowing, a possibility due to his fighting experience, then the advantage becomes all his whether he still has Stormlight or not. As for Jasnah Soulcasting him directly, I don't think it's possible. Can she soulcast Syl? Syl will become Kaladin and vice-versa on the spiritual level when he becomes a full 5 KR. The Investiture resistance is too great to overcome in my opinion. I don't believe Jasnah can soulcast any spren at all, not even lesser spren, so Soulcasting a Radiant is gonna be impossible. But who knows? Been wrong before.

So basically Honor stays splintered but the largest pieces form sub-Shards that could still Realmatically be considered as Honor. The example of possibilities include what Autonomy is doing. Am I getting the jist of the theory? If so, I have 2 questions. The first one is yet unanswerable but something I always keep in mind. What is the threshold? It has to be a level above Herald or it would have already happened when Honor died. Similar for full 5 KR. How are they gathering that sort of power, especially if Cultivation doesn't want to cooperate? Question 2 is less a question than following the implications. What if this is true? If it works they will not be content to be Shardlettes. They will have to move away from each other in order to become full Shards in their own right. The problem is the difficulty in spren leaving Roshar. They'd have to overcome that first. And if they achieve the escape Velocity without losing enough power that it makes them either shatter or devolve then finding another planet in the Cosmere to consolidate power will change their powers. New Magic systems popping up everywhere in a truly haphazard fashion. Something tells me that Hoid or some others of the original 16 are gonna take exception to this and try for the Odium play.

Spren are literally pieces of Investiture. Melding a literal piece of Investiture to one's Spiritweb makes one more invested than a normie. It seems obvious to me that they'd be more difficult to soulcast than a thug in an alley. YMMV of course. If we're talking Jasnah v Kaladin at this current point in the narrative then I have no doubt she wins. More oaths spoken, more knowledgeable about her capabilities, at least in terms of Soulcasting, possibly Plate. But if we could extrapolate what happens in the future, when they both are Full Five Ideal KR, the fight becomes much more even. Jasnah isn't going to be able to soulcast him directly, and any box or restraint she can place around him gets broken once he summons Plate. She moves faster than he can with Transportation but he's more maneuverable with his Lashings. If they ever run outta Stormlight Kaladin has the advantage even if they can still summon Blade and Plate without Stormlight. Jasnah has the advantage as long as the Stormlight holds out. Last, it depends on circumstances. Are they facing each other across a duel yard? Are they meeting across a battle line? Or is one or the other trying to be a knife in the dark? Each of those situations effect how a fight between them would go.

I wonder what order they'll be in. Which shard gets to be the hydrogen analog? Another potential question, how would the Investiture elements mix? Say one could acquire all the Shards in a cup of liquid Investiture. Would they mix, being from the same initial source and end up making liquid Adonalasium or would they act like oil and water? Would some elements mix more easily due to either compatible or completely opposite (opposites attract magnetically) Intent? Brandon was a chemistry major before becoming a professional author. I'm certain that these questions are gonna get asked.

Calls into question what does Urithiru look like in Shadesmar. Does it have a Spren?

Check out the link, Phase States. I wrote a post about a month ago that speculates on ways Investiture could be changed from solid to liquid or really any phase changes. Temperature isn't a factor, I don't think. I thought harnessing the friction between Realms would be what I'd postulate. Future Scadrian scientists are going to have a fun time regardless.

Proof: Easy. Blue skin. Variable physiology. Agents of a Shard. The evidence is all there. They're cousins. Theory: Adonalasium hates pancakes.

Well we know from the Hemalugic Table that the God Metals have some funky properties. Lerasium spikes steal everything, so find someone who naturally has the power set you want and take from them everything. Atium spikes steal more effectively so someone with the knowledge could probably spike any one specific trait out of someone, not just powers but attributes, and at near the same strength as the donor. A crappy example, someone has extraordinary eyesight. That's an attribute an expert hemalurgist can snatch and give to someone else. Many of the things @Ixthos speculates could be done likely require God Metal usage. There are currently 4 shards plugged in to Scadrial, Preservation, Ruin, Harmony and Autonomy (Trell). 2 of those we don't yet know the Hemalugic properties of. Any other Gods would have to plug in to Scadrial before their Hemalugic properties are discovered (Allomantic and Ferochemical properties too for that matter). Personally I think the possibilities are near endless. But more investment is needed to unlock the extraordinary potential of Hemalurgy. But much can be done even with the Godmetals we already have. The problem becomes supply. Whatever gets done now would need Harmony's participation. He would have to actively produce both Atium and Lerasium in at least some limited capacity in order to have the support metals.

That's actually the quote I was looking for. Couldn't find it.

@galendo Take a look at the middle of Ch. 11 in OB. That's when she creates Brightness Radiant. That should illustrate the point that Shallan intentionally split herself so she would not have to deal with a new truth, sworn but not having come to terms with. And while it is true that she used the Veil persona before speaking her latest truth, the key is that before it was a tool. After the swearing it became a crutch, an escape.

Consider that his rise to prominence was due to him finishing WOT and thus having to sew up a thousand hanging plot threads, I'd say he's aware. And before he started his magnum epic he spoke about story bloat at length and ways to combat it. It's why he structured the books and the series as he does. It's also I suspect the reason he's going to throw in novellas like Edgedancer in, so that some of the stories he wants to tell still get told without cluttering the main timeline.

I believe this is the first time I've ever seen Jezrian's Honorblade referred to as a 'little annoyance'. But screw Moash anyway. By any means necessary.

Considering some of the people he's turned I'm not sure he has many problems in the PR department. He doesn't have a 100% strike rate but then again who does? I'd give Pattern a scientific calculator as a pet he could talk to and an Esher painting so he could study visual contradictions in his spare time.

Who says they didn't? Though I argued that the Oathpact was a bad idea it may have been the best of a bad lot at the time, at least as they saw it. But the experiment failed as we all can see; Honor was shattered upon that failure. But the conditions are different than they were in the Shadowdays, and new conditions present new opportunities. Trying to fit an unsuitable Oathpact into this situation would be an even worse move than it was before. If they try it it will make me want to throw things.

The thing about Jasnah is that most of what we know of her character comes from Shallan's POV. Shallan thinks Jasnah is perfection personified. She's overwhelming, intimidating, brilliant, beautiful and always correct. Shallan is the head priestess in the Church of Jasnah. But in the limited time we get to spend in Jasnah's head we see that the face she presents to the world isn't a mirror to how she perceives herself. She armors herself in logical and upright behaviour. It causes people to misunderstand her, both in-world and in real life. I have spent so much time derailing this thread responding to everyone I never said what I don't want to see. I don't wanna see the Oathpact restored in any shape or form. It was a bad idea to start though it had a good run. The advent of the Everstorm has robbed it of the limited effectiveness it already had. So kill it dead and find another solution.

Dalinar wants Unity!

Possible. We will have to see if it's Realmatically viable. I suspect it isn't but I've been wrong before. I will admit, Stormlight CPR could add something interesting to a scene if it actually does work.

Cultivation seems to correspond to Adaptation for me, as if a different Vessel may interpret the intent as such. Vice looks like Odium. Artifice or Ingenuity is something I could get behind as one of the missing 6. Conviction sounds like a dual-Shard combo between Dominion and Devotion. That's my take at least. Keep em coming!

Somehow I don't believe we're going to get a narrative involving any of the remaining Shards. Brandon will have to release them via WOB or in novella form. As for the names of the remaining 6 or what they're likely to do, there have been hints but Brandon has been quite shy about significant details.

I'll preface this comment by saying Dalinar is my favorite SA character and probably top 3 Cosmere-wide. I'm in the military and I would pick him as my general. That being said, I didn't begin to feel that way until probably the end of WOK. His story dragged for me up until the Tower. After that he got super interesting and the estimation has grown since. Two things grow from that observation. The first is that SA is a quite unconventional series. At the time of publication Brandon had a bunch of ideas that he wasn't sure were gonna be approved. The interludes, the book art, the narrative structure, all these things that are great about SA and that we now take for granted were by no means a certainty in 2010. Now Kaladin is about as conventional a fantasy protagonist as it gets. Having him as a focus character gave publishers something familiar to pair with all that strangeness and ultimately gave Brandon the freedom to write the kind of book he wanted to write. Putting Dalinar in the driver's seat instead would have changed the calculus. It would have been a harder sell unless he had Dalinar perform some of the Kaladin action sequences. And that makes Dalinar a different dude than the one we love. Second, people bring up page count for Dalinar, saying how low it is compared to some of the other MC's. The thing is, the Dalinar scenes from the Tower on were so flipping epic I honestly didn't notice his lack of pages. He has more bang for the proverbial buck than any Stormlight character. Maybe more Dalinar makes for a better story for some people, for me I'm not so sure. More pages means more opportunities for scrutiny. I hated Kaladin a little in WOR because of the depression and angst arc. Only the epic ending (Stretch forth thy hand!) saved him. And we all know the headaches Shallan caused in OB, headaches some people still aren't quite over. Meanwhile Szeth, despite being a MC and a killing machine akin to an epidemic, benefits from his limited time on screen. Nobody is jumping on him like they do, say, Adolin for example. I'm not faulting anyone for their preferences, even if those preferences cause them to step away from the books. I mean, you get a character you love and you wanna see them more. I know people on the boards who are just as irrationally in love with Adolin as some on this forum are with Dalinar. It's just my opinion that more Dalinar doesn't necessarily mean you get a better product. Dalinar works for me because he doesn't need the type of exposition our other people need. He's not a minor noble shoved into prominence or a former slave who gains godly powers. His progress is more gradual because he started off high..

I disagree but it's a stylistic choice. The entire Bridge 4 crew is like a minor character in their own right and they provide some of the most heartwarming scenes in OB. Plus, for narrative reasons the Bridge 4 sequences gives us a unique perspective, one of semi-normal folks as they try to cope with the end of the world. All of our POV characters are either nobles or converted nobles. Kaladin isn't normal anymore, Lyft is outside authority in Azish and has the King's ear, and Szeth strikes me as an exiled Shin noble too (or are they just letting anyone train with captive Honorblades in Shinovar nowadays). Even Adolin, a secondary character with outsized polarization, is nobility. Brandon felt it important to get in normal perspectives for worldbuilding purposes. Throwing in some Amaram chapters would have been nice and I would have liked to see them, but not at the expense of Bridge 4, especially if that character ain't gonna be around past the end of the book. And it probably lessens the impact of the heel-turn to give him a POV. Moash is probably gonna be around awhile so it makes sense to flesh him out. He also makes an effective foil for Kaladin, being the anti-Windrunner. Holistic therapy, Rosharan style. Strangely, they still need the crystals to gather energy.

True, all true. But that's still not transferring Stormlight between Radiants. If Shallan has no Stormlight left she cannot kiss a fully charged Renarin to refill her reserve.

Right. My bad.