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1 minute ago, Lord Mistborn Skybreaker said:

Shardplate can’t work like that, because Shardplate can’t be lashed. 

Copermind: Shardplate protects the user from Surgebinding. It is not possible to use any lashings against someone armored in Shardplate. It is also not possible for a wielder of an Honorblade to Surgebind while wearing plate, due to interference from the gemstones.^[1]

You can't lash someone wearing Shardplate, but if you yourself have Shardplate (the Radiant kind, presumably, as opposed to dead plate) you can lash yourself. (The Windrunner in Dalinar's vision with the midnight essences be is wearing plate while flying.) The OP is suggesting that Shardplate might help with the G forces for Windrunners and Skybreakers.

I would imagine the original crop of Fused must all be crazy by now, so even if this theory is true it's still possible the Fused we hear from in the books are all parshpersons.

If at some point we meet a Thunderclast who answers to Jeff or Linda we'll have a strong clue.

3 minutes ago, Leyrann said:

Just making sure, you're not mixing up the 1 g = 9.81 m/s^2, are you?

I mean, the stormlight is still a good argument, but from how I read your post I thought you might've mixed those two numbers up.

I am. What's the issue?

I imagine stormlight would help since it seems to provide full body oxygenation without needing to breathe or circulate blood, but also, with Roshar's lower gravity each lashing is only 0.7 g, and I don't think we are seeing very many Gravitation users get into double digit lashings very often.

Farscouts

Spren: Starpren

Surges: Transportation/Adhesion

Attributes: Curious and selfless

Farscouts use their powers to explore realms beyond Roshar, exploring strange new worlds, seeking out new life and new civilizations.

2nd: I will not interfere in the natural development of less advanced cultures.

3rd: I will value life even if it is incomprehensible to me.

4th: I will investigate strange phenomena even if it's super dangerous and there's no obvious upside.

5th: I will boldly go where no one has gone before.

That thunderclast reaching down to give Nohadon some dap while he's shopping for bread makings.

Something @Isilel said over in the Nale's Story Arc thread--about Nale not being able to kill Gavilar directly (assuming that's a thing he wanted to do) because there's no way he could get local legal permission to do that--got me thinking.

Are there so many Radiant Kholins because the Alethi legal system couldn't generate a document that would allow their execution without alerting somebody whose last name is Kholin?

Maybe the association between cymatic patterns and modern (albeit very long established) cities isn't as clear cut as the murderous ardent implies? It's a shame, because Kabsal was pretty reliable and trustworthy in other matters.

I'd like to compare the pictures. Maybe something will jump out at me.

ETA:

Okay, here's the two maps side by side. According to the text on the WoK endpaper, the Thaylen City plan on the cymatics comparison page is "based on city plans found in the archives of the Palanaeum," which could make them old enough that recent construction could account for the differences you see. And if there were more recent plans available there where the symmetry was less obvious, the person making the cymatics document presumably would have cherry-picked the version that best fit their argument.

In the end I don't think the differences between the maps have any bearing on cymatics. The cymatic pattern shown in that document is pretty complicated, moreso than you'd really expect to get from sand on a plate. Compare to the video clip in the Wikipedia article on cymatics, which appears to be generating this very pattern, but without the pieces that are different between the maps in the two documents.

@hoiditthroughthegrapevine oh, Ivory as a Shardnet. I should have realized.

And yes, Jasnah doesn't know about plutonium. That is definitely the point at which the theory stops being plausible, yep.

But you've still got your hordeling leaving Shadesmar to Soulcast. It's an extra step.

Back to @hoiditthroughthegrapevine's original Hyper-Prepared-Jasnah-Shadesmar-Strike plan:

1. Do we know that spanreeds work across Realms?
2. We do know that Ivory can't change his shape in the Physical Realm (not even into a razor sharp net).
3. Why transition back into the Physical at all? Just keep grabbing beads for whatever's near your Target and turn them into plutonium. Fullborn doesn't give you a way to affect the Cognitive, so you can afford to take a little time.

Rest in Peace, Elhokar. In the end, you did your best.

And it's not your fault that hereditary monarchy is a stupid idea.

15 hours ago, Willow said:

so I wrote you a whole novel (it has mini-chapters!) on this subject

Please. In Sanderson-adjusted terms, that was barely a Tweet.

Honorspren are a: pretty humanlike in their full forms (no offense), so they have pronounceable names, and b: able to speak even very soon after they transition, even before they have regained much of their memory. Those two things together make it likely that most honorspren are going to get to use their own names once bonded. (Though some might get a nickname in the interim before they remember theirs, if there isn't a transition coach there to remind them.)

Timbre probably has a pronounceable name, but doesn't seem to be able to communicate it to Venli yet.

We don't know much about Ivory's early experience with Jasnah.

Wyndle has a pronounceable name (though we don't know if that's what he'd use in Shadesmar or if it's like picking an English-sounding name before moving to America) and the ability to communicate it to his Radiant, but he says his transition was smoother than he expected, so we don't know if that's normal at this stage.

Glys definitely can communicate to Renarin in words, but doesn't seem to remember much before Sja-Anat got to him, so we don't know the origin of that name.

The regular Truthwatcher spren we've seen don't seem to be able to talk early on.

1 hour ago, Nymeros said:

When it comes to Lopen, the real question is "will he progress?"

It's cool that he attracted a spren  (why wouldnt he?) and all but if he cannot evolve as a a person he's not getting to the 5th oath.

I agree that that's a more interesting question. Also: it applies to every Radiant.

54 minutes ago, Leyrann said:

Shardblade, Shardplate... And Ryshadium?

Yes. They're sometimes called "the third shard", apparently. (Coppermind says that's in OB ch10.)

I'm not convinced that Adolin would have flat out refused the throne had he not already come to terms with not being the man his father thinks he is.

And the amount of debate over a supposedly straightforward character doesn't have to mean anything other than "fans can be cray".

I think we need another word for "a piece of something". Shard and sliver are all used up, and using splinter for both kinds is getting confusing.

Severely physically handicapped, member of a low status minority group, somehow assigned to a bridge crew.... Yeah, we definitely need an alternate explanation for how the Lopen could be receptive to a bond.

27 minutes ago, Subvisual Haze said:

It might be important to consider the full implications if you wish to re-create a shattered shard.  Theoretically fully recreating Honor as a 100% restored shard would necessitate the death of many currently sentient spren.

There ought to be a way to convert them to the intentional splinter status the honorspren had before Honor was splintered.

28 minutes ago, Ravioli said:

I was thinking more relationship and shipping

It's a recursive portmanteau now? I need to lie down.

2 minutes ago, Ravioli said:

Ahh you're right, it's an abbreviation of the portmanteau "relationshipping" thanks

Does everybody see me not quibbling about whether "relationship" + "ing" counts as a portmanteau? I think I've grown.

8 minutes ago, Rainier said:

Frankly I think that shipping is a slur used to diminish people who talk about it, as if we can talk about magical theories but not personal ones.

It certainly can be used dismissively. I'm not sure what else we'd call it at this point, though.

It seems like you're drawing a distinction between "let's discuss this relationship (which might be textual, subtextual, hypothetical, or even contratextual) with an eye towards identifying what we like/dislike about it and/or comparing it to other relationships" and "let's look in the books for evidence foreshadowing how relationships will develop later on". Calling the first one "shipping" but not the second.

I don't think the line is all that bright, on a thread by thread basis or even post by post. So I don't think it's likely that a taxonomy that differentiates between them is likely to catch on, but you do you.

As for me and my house, I can tell you that the things that keep me out of relationship speculation threads will cause me to nope out of a Realmatic theory thread just as fast. (Imagine if the Willshaper resonance thread were as long and heated as ASK.)

@Ravioli, portmanteau is not the word you want there. "Shortening" or "abbreviation", maybe.

7 minutes ago, StormingTexan said:

So a couple possibilities

1) Brandon is just throwing out miss-information on something we already knew.

2) Vasher is incorrect possibly Shashara used a different metal without Vasher's knowing.

 

 

3) Brandon didn't remember off the top of his head whether he'd already canonized that and didn't want to risk conflicting with another published source.

(I'm not saying this is definitely it, just including it for completeness.)

2 hours ago, Nathrangking said:

Fourthly, all of the pre oathbringer speculation about may aladar I felt like I was drowning in all of those theories.

Oh, so much this! I didn't read any of the previews or anything in the spoiler forum until after I had gotten the book and read it. I had no idea who May Aladar was. Then I'm reading through a thread on Adolin's sword and come across somebody complaining that Mayalaran is too similar to May Aladar, and it's bad form to have two important characters with such similar names. I thought I was having a stroke.