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46 minutes ago, Vissy said:

Sell. 

Odium turns out to have been the good guy all along

I'm sure he thinks so, but sell, because storm that guy.

Rock will learn to hear the rhythms, and will teach them to some musicians. A new style of music driven by distinctive pounding beats will sweep Roshar, and of course be named in Rock's honor.

@galendo, have you read Mistborn: Secret History? I wonder if the in between place is reminding you of

Perhaps Tanavast used to do that, and the Stormfather misses it. Or perhaps he still does it. We do still need an explanation for that difference between Scadrial's CR and Roshar's.

18 minutes ago, Carla Bridge Four said:

Mmmm I will buy it, why not?  The more, the merrier.

Rysn will become Radiant and recover her legs.

Buy Radiant Rysn, sell ambulatory Rysn.

The two kinds of Aimians aren't related.

1 hour ago, Chiri-Chiri said:

I totally buy it, He knows how to chill with style. 

Syl will lead the "burn your safehand's glove" movement.

Buy, but more for the idea of the movement than for who leads it.

The Shard Hoid was offered was Creativity.

56 minutes ago, Cosmé said:

That would explain why they did exist in the past

Wait, what? Do we have evidence that flying ships existed in the past on Roshar?

Buy.

Lift has had the Talk with Wyndle.

Whatever it was, and I think @RShara's guesses seem solid, I expect it will definitely figure heavily in her flashbacks, when our distant descendants eventually get to read them. But whether it was "the thing that broke her" is not something I expect we'll learn, mostly because it doesn't seem like that's really how it works.

The answer is going to vary a lot from combination to combination. We have been told by Brandon that any kind of Investiture can power any magic system, but it's not always simple to accomplish.

The easiest one, probably, and the one we're pretty sure we've on screen, is a Nalthian Returned using Stormlight to satisfy their one breath per week requirement.

3 minutes ago, RShara said:

Heh okay I'm done.

 

Anyway, again.  Navani I think would be great at being the Urithiru bondsmith.  I just really want there to be some normal Kholins around, too.

As long as Gavinor doesn't turn out to be a crazy surgebinding prodigy, I'll be okay.

10 minutes ago, RShara said:

I don't think smooshing Navani into a thin paper cup, then chomping down, would be very healthy for her...

For her?! That's the wife of the Blackthorn! Worry about yourself!

1 hour ago, Storms! said:

In WoR she comments to Dalinar that she was never really in love with Gavilar. I took that scene to mean that she wasn't faithful in her last marriage

I can't find it right now, but I'm almost sure there's a line where Navani tells Dalinar something to the effect of "I was never unfaithful to Gavilar, though he certainly gave me reason enough". Anybody know what I'm thinking of?

I think we're taking Evi's description too literally. I don't think they have a sound in her language that is literally understood to mean "himself" (or I do, but I don't think it's "renar"). I think she picked it because she liked the sound of it, and when her husband asked what it means, she pointed at Renarin and said "it means him".

If I had named my son some random sounds that I liked, say "Burbo", when somebody inevitably asked me what that means I wouldn't have an answer except to point to my son and say "Burbo means him, that child right there, the one whose name is Burbo."

Now later somebody might Google it and decide that it's a reference to an offshore wind farm in the UK. They might decide that his name means some combination of remote, powerful, and windy. But that's all after the fact analysis, because I wasn't aware when I picked it. That's how most modern American naming works, frankly. Parents pick names for their kids based on lots of factors, but "this name has a literal meaning that people are expected to understand" is rarely one of them. (Prudence, Charity, et al are relics of a time when this was more common.)

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Hoidonalsium [PENDING REVIEW]

In that one long rejection of Odium, how many Oaths did Dalinar swear before merging the Realms? And is "I am Unity" the fifth.

Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW]

No, that is not an Oath. He swore one ideal in that experience.

Hoidonalsium [PENDING REVIEW]

Okay. How many Oaths is he on?

Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW]

The number you think. So, he should have just finished three, right? Or maybe four. I'll have to go look. It's the number that you think it is. I'm not being sneaky on you. There's nothing sneaky there. He doesn't get armor, so I can't remember where he is... He should be at three. "Life before death." "I will unite instead of divide." "I will stand up each time I fall." Yeah, so he's done three.

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3 hours ago, RShara said:

Hmmm.  Weird.  I thought it followed the inverse square law.

It does, but the acceleration we refer to as g is the calculated value at sea level. (Or rather at the defined planetary radius.)

On 2/15/2018 at 1:05 PM, RShara said:

Gravitational acceleration isn't directly proportional, I don't think?  So .7 Earth Gravity wouldn't necessarily be 70% of 9.8 m/s^2.  I can't remember for sure.  Anyway, the post above gives the mass of Roshar, which will allow him to calculate the correct gravitational acceleration.

It is. The post above uses the given 0.7g surface gravity to calculate the planetary mass.

On 2/15/2018 at 3:05 PM, king of nowhere said:

This makes me think. The size of roshar continent is roughly that of asia, and the distance between shinovar and alethkar roughly the one between europe and china. So maybe there was on roshar a Cristopherin Chiken who, after miscalculating the distance involved, attempted to reach alethkar from shinovar sailing westward.

there was no continent to discover, and he sunk in a highstorm anyway.

Isn't that basically the story of the Wandersail?

I wouldn't be shocked if there were an Atium/aluminum alloy that would damage the allomancy part of your spiritweb if you were tricked into burning it.

9 hours ago, Draginon said:

Granted, but you will never be able to use the zincmind since you'll be deathly allergic to zinc

I wish to be able to read faster

You can read very quickly indeed, but you forget anything you read after an hour or so.

I wish to wake fully refreshed after a single hour of sleep.

11 hours ago, Stormfather-in-Law said:

How exactly did Brandon Sanderson promise anything? How is he breaking a promise? How did he keep a promise before?

This phrasing is a little misleading, but when Brandon talks about writing (I'm mostly thinking about Writing Excuses here, but I know some of his BYU lectures are online and I expect he uses similar vocabulary there) he talks a lot about being aware of "what promises are you making to the reader" and the importance of fulfilling those promises in a way that's satisfying but not necessarily what the reader expects. There's a significant overlap between Sharders and Writing Excuses listeners, so I expect that's how the term came to be used that way here.

3 minutes ago, IronBars said:

Should of is just how i talk sorry, i know its not grammatically correct, but some times how i talk bleeds in to how i write.

You don't need to apologize to me for my grammar hangups. Although, since "should've" sounds like "should of" (which I assume is how it got started), you could change all your "should of"s to "should've" with zero loss of fidelity to how you talk!

Choosing to let somebody kill the person you've promised to protect is not the same thing as failing to protect the person you've promised to protect. Kaladin was incapacitated. Morally it's no different than if he were physically restrained from intervening.

And just because I like circles: the way you can tell it's no different is that it didn't do any damage to his bond.

Put another way: it's not that Kaladin hesitated, whether because he wasn't sure whether killing Moash to save Elhokar was the right thing to do or for some other reason. He was unable to intervene at all because in that moment his brain was broken.

Put yet a third way: "Didn't he basically let Elhokar die?" No. He failed to save him, which is different from letting it happen.

PS: Small nitpick: "should have" is a thing, and "should've" is a thing. "Should of" is not a thing.

I know cover art isn't canon, but based on the cover of The Emperor's Soul, as well as the interior illustration from that section of Arcanum Unbounded, it seems likely that some of the people in MaiPon (which is on Sel, but a long way from where Elantris is set) have epicanthic folds.

I do think it's pretty well established that Shinovar is the place with the longest continuous human presence on Roshar. (Mostly I'm thinking of the Stormfather's comments to Dalinar about it being "the land you were given", where "the plants and animals you brought with you could survive" {those quotes are from memory and are probably off}.)

The idea that there was a second large migration of humans from another world has to contend with the fact that we don't have in world evidence for it. Making the Shin the second group helps in that we do have references to a Shin invasion, but it requires a change to we we think we know about Shinovar.

I think it's more likely that the differing eye shape,--and other genetic weirdness (Alethi hair color heritability, for instance)--of the rest of Roshar is due to some combination of selection and mutation.

In case it's not clear: I (a white dude) would look Shin to an Alethi. Basically everybody else on Roshar has an epicanthic fold on their eyes. Why? Unknown. It may be adaptive in some way for frequent exposure to highstorms, or some other environmental factor. It doesn't seem plausible for normal evolution to have produced this effect in the time allotted, but we know Stormlight exposure has had biological effects (immune system boost) so maybe it sped that up.

@hoiditthroughthegrapevine I am confuse. Some of these seem like what you think they are, and some what you think they need. And all the sugar means what?