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1 hour ago, GoddessIMHO said:

Thanks @RSHARA. I had completely forgotten those episodes. This would make Jasnah hiding her "Radiance" even more difficult. It would expected that she too would show these effects.

It takes a while, apparently. And the effects we've seen seem to all be associated with the single-substance fabrials. Maybe the Greater Soulcasters don't experience the same side effects.

3 minutes ago, Storms! said:

Why not? A cognitive shadow is a cognitive shadow, no?

Yeah, but the meat it's wearing might count for something. We don't know either way, and it might be different for different kinds of CS/meat combinations.

2 minutes ago, Rock's Stew said:

Not to create a tangent, but as I've been reading this I remembered a question from the book.  Do both Listeners and Singers refer to Parshendi? Or was one the parshmen before transformation?

Listeners is what the Parshendi call(ed) themselves. Singers is what the Fused and the Voidspren are telling the transformed Parsh to call themselves. I find that second bit a little problematic. But so is calling them all Parsh or Parsh-something.

18 hours ago, wotbibliophile said:

Dalinar is arrogant, power hungry, self righteous, patronizing, a hypocrite, an alcoholic, and a monster.

(emphasis mine)

*sings: One of these things is not like the others....

Look, you do you. You don't have to like Dalinar. But let's not pretend that alcoholism belongs in the same category as the rest of those character flaws.

Is there a description of the search syntax somewhere? I'd like to know how to search for:

(Hoid OR Wit OR Cephandrius) AND (sword OR blade)

ETA: Since a helpful resource has been linked downthread, and so I'm not (just) cluttering up the feature suggestions thread with an easily answered question, I hereby suggest a link to that helpful resource be added to the Advanced Search page.

1 hour ago, I'mAStickFanClub said:

But Kal is in House Kholin now not house Sadeas. They talk about him having lands by some river near the capital in OB (sorry I don't have an exact quote). Basically he is Adolin's banner-man now and wouldn't be eligible to become Highprince of another princedom.

Point.

30 minutes ago, stonedshaman said:

A post about the sibling seems a good enough place as any to drop this:  IIRC the Stormfather refers to the sibling in both the singular and the plural.  Is it at all possible that the sibling is some sort of hivemind spren akin to the sleepless?  And if so could it be the sibling that is being tucked away in Aimia?  As this is one of those random thoughts that occur during mindnumbing Labour I would love to hear all of your thoughts.

This is plausible, but I think it's more likely the Stormfather was just avoiding revealing the sibling's gender. Have an upvote anyway.

19 minutes ago, I'mAStickFanClub said:

Maybe he'll be the next Highprince Sadeas. With Torol and Amaram both dead, Ialai (and presumably her inner circle) exiled in disgrace, the officer causalities from the battle at the end of OB, and many Brightlords captured by the Parsh in occupied Alethkar it is possible that Roshone is the highest ranking Brightlord in House Sadeas left. Hope its not the case though for Kaladin's sake.

I'm pretty sure Kaladin outranks him, at least. 

23 minutes ago, Furry-And-Lovable-Grover said:

An aside, has there been an etymological discussion of "Recreance" as a name? Its definitely made up, but seems to have at least some sort of root that should be able to be examined for clues.

It's not exactly made up. It's an existing word, recreant, which means "someone who is unfaithful to a belief", modified to refer to an event.

If he is a Herald he's spending a lot of time in Hair and Makeup every morning to make it look like he's aged.

ETA: His reaction could be more than just "Stormfather, will I never be done with this storming family?!" If it is, my money is on a connection to one of the secret societies.

10 hours ago, Isilel said:

4.5 thousands years old steel wouldn't be in particularly good shape, though, even less so in a relatively humid climate. And also, Stormseat was allegedly destroyed during Aharietam, and we have seen in Dalinar's visions that humans only had access to primitive bronze weapons at that point.

The in text evidence for when it was destroyed is a little on the thin side, but even if it was, it had a working Oathgate, so it had access to the best tech and tools of the time. As for how they were preserved... Shrug emoji. But I don't see any hints of a better explanation.

7 hours ago, Isilel said:

Parshendi had very well-made steel weapons decorated with beautiful glyphs when they first met the Alethi... yet they were also completely illiterate and have forgotten even the notion of written language. Venli allegedly re-invented one from scratch. So, where did their weapons come from?

Probably scavenged from the ruins of Stormseat.

We have seen one other kind of fabrial that directly mimics an application of a surge: Regrowth.

I'm not sure how we fit the guy who got some cloth to sell and had his vision inverted (from the Baxil interlude) into this framework.

I could see her using her experiences with supplicants as a source of ideas, but I think it's unlikely she is just swapping things out.

For one thing, what are the odds that every single person who seeks the old magic is able to give up something that happens to fit what the next person is going to ask for?

9 hours ago, TheWarriorPoet said:

And in Secret History, he is shown fighting Kelsier, so i think it is forbidden for him to fight only in Physical realm but not in cognitive realm

Hoid himself seems to think it's less about where he's fighting than whom he's fighting:

"That was unpleasant," Drifter said, "yet somehow still satisfying. Apparently you already being dead means I can hurt you."

Presumably another living worldhopper in Shadesmar would be safe from Hoid.

5 minutes ago, King Cole said:

But Nale isn't raving mad, his insanity seems to be more about having a lack of emotions. The Skybreakers have good reason to trust Nale. He is a cornerstone of their religion, why would they distrust him?

Maybe because he won't shut up about how untrustworthy his mind is?

Anybody else think that Odium let the Last Legion escape so he could have a possible reserve of free parsh to work with if the Radiants succeeded in lobotomizing the main populace? Most of what makes this Desolation different from the previous ones wouldn't have worked without the Listeners.

1 hour ago, The Sovereign said:

It doesn't...? It is a direct parallel to Szeth killing due to his Truthless nature and then realizing that he was never Truthless so the murders were his responsibility all along.

Edit: After some more thought, there is some parallel between the Emperor and Honor being dead but it more or less ends there. It is a loose parallel. Realistically the Knights themselves knew that Honor was dead as basically any of their Spren could tell them that... The Szeth parallel is much more of a 1 to 1 correlation.

@Blazenella: Take a closer look at the descriptions of the blades from the Kholinar scene in WoK and the blade that Dalinar bonded and then released after Bonding the Stormfather. Dalinar never had Taln's Honorblade.

As for something I missed the first time around: The Sergeant who stops Shallan when she is infiltrating Amaram's manor while disguised as a messenger is Hav, the Sergeant who trained Kaladin in Amaram's army.

Yeah, there's an obvious Szeth parallel, but the punchline of the Wandersail story is the people flipping out as they realize they're responsible for what they've done. Szeth doesn't do that, because he always felt responsible for the sins he was committing. The Knights Radiant, however, after the revelations about their origin and the lobotomizing of the parsh, do indeed flip the Braize out.

2 hours ago, Brgst13 said:

Parshmen look similar to dullform (slaveform) Parshendi.

Slaveform is not the same as Dullform, although clearly Dullform looks enough like Slaveform that a Listener in Dullform can pass.

Parshmen don't look like Parshendi in Slaveform, they are Parshendi in Slaveform.

3 minutes ago, king of nowhere said:

6) Image: on the left, dalinar with two bits of string. On the right, dalinar having tied them into a knot       Text: UNITE THEM!    Caption: Dalinar always tries to be helpful

Huge twist: Tanavast, in his dying state, suffered from some dyslexia-like symptoms, and it's later revealed that in knotting these strings together Dalinar was actually doing the opposite of what Honor intended!

Bands of Mourning Spoilers

I kicked myself at the end of The Way of Kings for not recognizing that Honor's speeches in Dalinar's visions weren't really interactive.

I think I spotted Vivenna on the second color metaphor, when really I should have been thinking along those lines just from the name she took.

That's about it for Stormlight, I think. My track record in Mistborn is much worse. In particular, I spent all of Hero of Ages

14 hours ago, .S.A.M.K.M said:

I wonder why those two human populations have listerner blood, if it was just the horn eaters peaks, I would attribute it to the unique nature of those mountains. But herdaz nothing special has been mentioned, except they are also a mountain range primarily.

Harsh environments with small populations that don't have much contact with the rest of the world may be more likely to result in interbreeding?

1 hour ago, ALAKA said:

If you read a Sci-Fi novel about, say, medieval England, in which the entire country was about to be annihilated by aliens, would you:

a. Cheer as Richard the Lionheart decapitates little green men,

or

b.  Say- "well, feudal society was immoral and those knights had it coming" - and throw the book away.

c: Avoid the false dichotomy and read the book carefully, looking to see how the author handles the fact that the nominal "heroes" of the piece are deeply flawed. Only if the author shows no interest in engaging that issue, or worse, comes out on the wrong side of it, will I throw the book away.

10 hours ago, Wit Beyond Measure said:

I definitely could be wrong.  I suspect that the sapphire pommel was added by Team Odium specifically with Jezrien in mind, perhaps because only his Order's gem would work on him.  An ancient knife that possibly hadn't been used (or cleaned and polished much) for millennia might not look important enough to be in the inner vault with the King's Drop, especially without the pommel. Or they might not be the same knife.

Yeah, if we e.g. got an interlude from the artifabrian who was forced at Surgepoint to refurbish the thing and attach the sapphire, I would happily eat my earlier complaint.