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Maybe the third god is more related to the third bondsmith than Odium?

Doesn't Khriss imply that the earthquake that caused the Reod was caused by the semi sentient splinters who personified countries?

Well, it's the power of preservation that gathers at the well of ascension, so the relation is probably not as direct as you you were thinking

Well in the Hero of Ages, both Leras and Ati's bodies were seen when they died and fell out of the mists. I think Ati was the ginger one, so all in all probably not Aimian. In terms of worldhopping- come to think of it, nobody knows is probably the best answer. I don't think we've seen much evidence for it though, so going by Occam's razor...

But Trell seems much more like an anti-Shard than an anti-Adonalsium anway I feel like ive used anyway too much

But Odium never had the opportunity to go after Harmony anyway?? Harmony only formed about 300 years before SA 5 and Odiums been in Roshar for millenia. Does he even know about Harmony?? I think if Odium wanted to ally himself with a Shardic level of power, then Ambition would have been a great choice, but if Odium didn't go with Ambition then he probably wouldn't go for Trell (who is a greater threat as he has the intent to conquer as shown with Harmony). As well as that its not like we know they are even aware of each other. Anyway i like the anti adonalsium concept because it has an elegant poetry to it but it seems unlikely just because the concept of opposites is already very much exhausted, especially on Scadrial

Didnt one of the 'voidbringers' illustrations look like a chasmfiend to adolin as well?

I'm not sure this quite explains why you cant have two. If you had just enough water coming into your cup that the first couldn't handle it, why wouldn't one more open up?

Want there a WOB about how after Elantris, Wyrn decided that they had been interpreting the prophecies wrong and only everyone east of the mountains needs to convert for Jaddeth to return. This quote is from October 2004 Elantris Group Questions though, so it could have changed by now.

Cough taravangian cough Imagine if because of mr t's NW boon he becomes almost a herald

A death rattle maybe? Her unique abilities could make certain forces see her as a weapon they need to create, whether that is Odium, the NW or both.

Magic systems in this cold be a thing. You've said that magic is of Jengu which changes, but what if there was a magic powered by Yezra as well, a magic that could use a spark of Jengu to leach the energy from something, leaving it static, and using that energy to affect things within the natural order.

Well if you did it on Roshar could you use stormlight as the source of that investiture? Just temporarily?

Hope this helps

Isnt the main theory on that being an unmade? We saw it and what could be a different unmade in WoR. I think most people theorise it is Re shepir the midnight mother.

But if we thought it was her and then it turned out to be some conwoman imitating her i would probably cry

Though this tickles my happy science magic spot, i cant help but feel that brandon has something bigger planned with the extra ruin. The way hes been teasing us... i dont know. It could be red herring but i want it to be more. I still really love this. Upvotes!!!

So we might get Shard(wheel)chairs instead of plate. And maybe if Shallan can translate for the grass then we could get a stick sequel!!!

Pure guesses: It seems strongly related to the Oathpact with mentions of binding and Heralds. Possibly it is the spren version of the Oathpact like KR are spren-heralds.

It's always possible that Trell is the combination of multiple shards like harmony. Maybe Bavadin picked up Odium?

So apparently brandon says that szeths afterimages are caused by his cognitive shadow not sticking well to his body. Is a change in his bodys identity that causes this?

How come no one on this thread has mentioned old magic? How does that fit into the thirty systems? Everything else seems to fit but theres no place for old magic and its really annoying me.

I personally feel that she will be important for other reasons. A larkin is hardly a spren, one allows use of investiture and the other takes it away. Maybe however she will be important as the only person who can control the larkin. For example could the KR use a larkin to suck all the Odium out of a Stormform? Or at least stop them using their powers? I dont think rysn as a KR makes sense but she has potential in a lot of other ways...

So Ambition was apparently one of the first Shards that Odium splintered. We know that Odium didn't pick up the Shard but it doesn't seem like there are many Splinters on Threnody. So where did they go? Could Odium have used the splinters of Ambition to splinter Devotion and Dominion? Hrathen does say that ambition is rewarded by the derethi. Meanwhile, another thing seems odd about Odium. Despite the fact that we know he hates investing, he's apparently fueled an entire magic system on Roshar. Most people say that he just hijacked Honour and Cultivation's systems but even so maybe he used the splinters of Ambition to do that, thereby cutting his own losses further. Finally, could the unmade be splinters of Ambition corrupted by Odium? For example, the Thrill seems like a very logical thing to come from an Odium corrupted Ambition. Thoughts?

A thing I noticed about Purity on the star chart, was it just me or was there a red haze surrounding the planet?