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Ohmygod, Kate Reading and Michael Kramer are amazing, especially with their voices for Syl and Pattern. In particular, I love how Kate conveys Pattern's buzzing tone and his thinking noises. I couldn't really picture either solidly until I heard her do it, and I was like, yes! That's how it sounds! Her voice for Wyndle is pretty amazing too. I love how dignified she makes him sound, especially beside her Lift. (WoR spoiler) Speaking of Lift, that whole interlude was one of my favorite scenes for a bunch of reasons. I loved the reason the thieves broke into the palace - it felt realistic, like something real crooks would do. Steal the stuff that's easiest to sell and least missed. I loved the reason Lift broke into the palace. I loved the decision Lift makes near the end and what it says about her character given what's been presented so far. And mostly, I loved Lift and Wyndle's interactions. When I listened to that part with my wife, she was whimpering at the end for poor Wyndle and the suffering he's forced to endure for the sake of the world (being stuck with Lift for the rest of her life) xD -
My favorite scene: Shallan and Kaladin in the chasms. Specifically this part (format and grammar may be off since I'm copying this from the audio book): Words of Radiance - Chapter 71 Also the part in Chapter 74 where they share their life stories with each other. I'm not going to quote the whole thing, but: Words of Radiance - Chapter 74
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I went over that last night, and you seem to understand, but to reiterate, because I don't think an eliminator would start with an infinite use extra night kill and not use it for three consecutive days. On top of that, there's no reason for the eliminators to have killed Trelagist when we Nobles had just all agreed to waste our next kill (vig or lynch) doing it for them While it could be an inactive eliminator who didn't submit night actions the first few nights or an eliminator playing a long game, I don't think so. Even if it was a long game, I'd expect them to have revealed who they were by now in an attempt to prove their loyalty. If not, what's the advantage to giving up not one but four night kills?
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Okay, so: Whomever just used a Shardblade for the first time is, in my opinion, a confirmed Noble. Unless it was Burnt due to her item re-roll. I also think it's clear that Joe's Shardblade is in Noble hands. There is no reason for the Ghostbloods to kill Trelagist when they knew we planned to either kill him with a Shardblade or Lynch him the following day. Whomever was targeted by the Ghostbloods last night is also confirmed unless there was redirect nonsense going on. If a Painrial was used, the user is also cleared unless redirect nonsense happened. The person who used a Grandbow to kill Orlok is also pretty much cleared, as I stated yesterday (game time). As stated yesterday, so is the Soulcaster who redirected Orlok's item creation on night two. Also, we know that the Ghostbloods are also almost certainly in the possession of a second Soulcaster (the one used to redirect an attack by Joe to Burnt on night three). That's six potential mostly confirmed Nobles, if there's no overlap. Even if there is, that's still four or five confirmed Nobles. And anyone else with a Soulcaster becomes suspicious, and a few of us know people who have one. Is this too early to suggest a mass reveal by those people? Having a third of the remaining players mostly confirmed as loyal could lead to a quick win at this point, especially when those confirmed players include three vigilantes and likely at least one person with a Painrial. Oh, and if I opened a PM with you late last night turn, sorry for not responding before the end of the night turn. I meant to, but fell asleep unexpectedly early last night. EDIT: formatting only
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Posting in the evenings is often hard for me because of our Little Brightness. Ever try holding an infant in one hand while typing on your phone with your other hand? It's pretty hilarious what comes out, I'll admit, especially when she tries to steal the phone and eat it. Is there anyone who needs to get in touch with me via PMs tonight?
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I love Shallan so much as a character because she's such a strong person. Horrible things have happened to her, but instead of letting them destroy her, she uses the experiences to forge her into something stronger. Her powers are also super interesting to me because she doesn't just create illusions or transform things, she has the power to show people the best person they could be, and then gives them the opportunity to become that person. She sees the good in people, sees them not as they are, but as they could be. As they want to be. She has absolute empathy, which, to me, is utterly amazing given what's happened to her in her past. For over ten years, my personal motto has been "Trust that you are beautiful." Shallan teaches people to have that trust in themselves, people who have given up on ever seeing themselves that way every again. My wife likes her because my wife identifies pretty strongly with her. My wife is onto drawing and has a tendency to sit around and draw people. Many years ago, she played a LARP character who would literally shot down whenever there was a second of downtime and just draw people, in character, and give the drawings to the characters she drew portraits of. And other stuff, like she would totally have completely inappropriate conversations about stuff like poop while on dates xD Poop is an important reason to marry someone! We're wierd moms xD (spoilers for WoR)
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Shallan, hands down. There's a reason my wife and I decided to give our daughter the middle name "Shallan" <.< We call her baby monitor "Pattern." We're such dorks. (So far, she's living up to the name - her eyes are currently bright blue, she was smiling before 1 month, she was laughing at 2 months, she started signing at 4 months (only the word "diaper," but still), and now she's scooting (and very close to true crawling) at 6 months. We'll see what happens when she gets old enough for crayons! #proudmom)
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So, I was listening to the Hamilton soundtrack the other day, as I often do, and I just couldn't help mapping the characters to SA characters. (And yes, yes, I know these are far from perfect connections, that's not the point.) Toral Sadeas = Thomas Jefferson (aka Jeffeas)Major but not primary antagonist Slave owner who supported the institution of slavery and whose wealth and political prestige relied upon it Creates a political divide that separates the newly unified nation into two major camps Got himself assigned to an extremely important political post, and then suddenly resigned it so he could run for a higher position Dalinar Kholin = George Washington (aka Dalington)General turned statesman Used military might to create a nation Tries to unify his nation despite it being composed of states/princedoms that are often at odds Father figure Believes everyone around him is working toward the same goals as he is Wants to resign his position the whole time Kaladin = Alexander Hamilton (aka Hamildin)Rose to political power from a lowly birth Extremely passionate, headstrong, and often acts without thinking Opposes slavery Leads rebellions Father/son relationship with Dalington, but not actually related Military leader under Dalington Strongly opposed to Jeffeas Non-stop Sylphrena = Eliza Schuyler/Hamilton (aka Sylza)Cheerful Comes from an important family Forms a bond with Hamildin Totally burned by Hamildin, nearly destroying their bond, but forgives him in the end Moash = Aaron Burr (aka Murr )Close friend of Hamildin early in the story Thinks Hamildin needs to be more cautious and stop rabble rousing Meets Hamildin when they were both in the military Obsessed with rising to power and becoming upper class (wants to be in the room where it happens) Often bides his time Gets an opportunity to rise to power because Hamildin is ruined by his betrayal of his bond to Sylza Often opposed to Hamildin's political views Feels betrayed by Hamildin and, in the end, fights him Elhokar Kholin = King George (aka Geokar)Terrible king who none of the other characters in the story care much for Super privileged Poor rule leads to riots and rebellion Adolin Kholin = John Laruens (aka Jolin)Fights alongside Hamildin Duels an arrogant military commander for insulting Dalington Supports the lower class Meridas Amaram = Maria Reynolds (aka Mamaram)Part of a conspiracy The reason for the strain between Hamildin and Sylza I got a bit stuck after that point, with just a few major Hamilton characters left. I couldn't figure out who best works for Marquis de Lafayette, the foreign military leader who is close friends with Hamildin and whose genius and support allow the protagonists to succeed, and then goes off to participate in a rebellion in his own land. I keep wanting to map him to Shallan Davar, but it just doesn't fit. And then there's Angelica Schuyler/Church and Hercules Mulligan... Oddly, I could map Shallan to all of those remaining characters, since she's also both witty and a spy.
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Err, that was exactly my point. None of the four possibilities I listed are plausible, in my opinion.
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I can't speak for other people, but personally, I am extremely fond of the fact that Brandon wrote a character like Renarin. There aren't enough characters with mental disorders like epilepsy, or characters on the Autism Spectrum, in fantasy. Having a seizure disorder myself (narcolepsy), Renarin entering stressful and dangerous situations despite knowing he could have a seizure at any time is definitely something that speaks to me, something I'm not terribly used to from fantasy literature. I also have a ton of friends on the Spectrum, and I find that Renarin's social difficulties feel genuine, not exaggerated like you often see in fiction by writers who have no idea what it's like to be that way, or focused on in a way that emphasizes it as weird and inhuman. Honestly, I feel that the autistic character in Elantris is the latter, and the way the autism was used as a plot device made me a bit uncomfortable when reading it. I feel that the difference between the presentation in Elantris and in The Stormlight Archive shows that Brandon is dedicated to learning how to write characters who are very different from himself, and succeeding at it. It makes me hopeful that when something like Drehy's sexual orientation is brought up, it's done in a way that's accepting and realistic rather than a caricature despite Brandon's beliefs and low exposure to the LGBT community. Similar to how either Brandon or Robert Jordan handled it with a couple minor characters near the end of the Wheel of Time. So, I'm really happy that Renarin exists and was written the way he was. All that said, he isn't my favorite character by a long shot. That would definitely be Shallan, and then a whole parade of other characters before Renarin (including Lift, Pattern, Syl, Zahel, Wit, Eshonai, Rock, The Lopen, Dalinar, Jasnah, Zahel's old friend, etc)
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I will point out that DC appears to have known that Wilson had unbroken Shardplate, and therefore knew she wouldn't die, and knew he wouldn't die because he also had plate. But, that doesn't explain why he'd issue the duel, especially since it forced a confrontation between him and someone who very clearly indicated she didn't want to interact directly with him, if possible, due to out of game reasons. I want to believe there was an in-game reason for DC's decision, but I can't see one. The only in-game reasons are: DC is Ghostblood, knew he wouldn't die as a result of the duel, and wanted to force a vote between someone on many people's trust lists and himself, keeping any Ghostbloods from being lynched. DC is Ghostblood and so is Trelagist, and DC wanted to protect Trelagist from a lynch (duel was declared right after the second vote on Trelagist). DC is Noble and is certain Wilson is a Ghostblood, but is lying about thinking she's Noble for some reason. DC is Noble and knows for certain that Trelagist is a Noble as well and wanted to protect Trelagist from a lynch. None of those make any sense to me in the context of what I've seen. The out of game reasons would be: DC was bored. DC wanted to harass Wilson. DC had the ability to declare a duel and wanted to use it, just because. ------ Twei, I don't think it was super obvious that Trelagist had the bow. You had to know (and remember) Orlok's item creation action was redirected and still went through, know that the item was a Grandbow, and guess that it had been used. On top of that, using a Grandbow does not make one innately suspicious, especially when they attack a person they voted to lynch. I don't think Trelagist using the bow indicates anything one way or the other - he could be Noble and really think that Wilson is Ghostblood, or he could be a Ghostblood. ------ So, what should we do about the person we voted as our lynch target during the day? Do we say "any Noble with a Shardblade, attack Trelagist because we voted for him, but if you have a Grandbow, don't attack Trelagist because the Ghostbloods have multiple Painrials from kills (I think?) and the Grandbow would only go through if Trelagist was actually a Noble"? The downside to that is if we don't have a Noble with a Shardblade, Trelagist wouldn't get attacked. If we assume that there's a chance there's a Noble out there with a Shardblade who just hasn't used it yet, then there's a fair chance we do have a Noble with a Shardblade, either Joe's heir or the cautious Noble. There is one flaw I see to this plan. The order of operations was amended such that Artifabrians go before kills, so if there's a second Ghostlbood Artifabrian and Trelagist is a Ghostblood, they could create a half-shard for Trelagist before the Shardblade kill would go off. But, if Trelagist is a Noble, chances are no one will do that for him (though he might already have a half-shard). I dunno. I'm trying to figure out how whichever Nobles have weapons can attack in a way that's not going to succeed only if Trelagist is actually a noble, but fail if he's a Ghostblood. Or rather, a way that has an equal probability of killing Trelagist regardless of his loyalties, rather than being more likely to succeed if he's a Noble and less likely if he's Ghostblood. (I don't see any possible way to arrange it such that it's more likely to work if he's Ghostblood and less likely if he's a Noble.)
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So, I guess whomever has Joe's blade, if you're not GB (~47% chance), kill the lynch target we picked out? In theory, the GBs have a bunch of painrials and know who we picked, so, if the chosen lynch target is GB, they are likely to be protected from a Grandbow, but if the target is noble, they are almost certain not to be protected from Grandbows, so I don't know how good of an idea hitting the target with Grandbows really is. Of course, the GBs know if Joe's blade is in their hands or ours and we don't... No other blade has been used this game, so we either have a very cautious noble blade wielder, or there's only one blade in the game. Hmm. Thoughts?
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Oh, crem, forgot about that =\ That messes up everything I said about her...
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Sheep - I'm pretty certain that Trel does NOT have a permanent Grandbow, just the one-night one from Orlok, obtained because a Soulcaster redirected Orlok's item creation to Trel. See my analysis below for my notes on that. I'm not supposing Trel or DC is an eliminator. I'm just wondering if DC is trying to protect Trel from a lynch, or if the duel has nothing to do with that. The whole duel thing still makes no sense to me (see below for more thoughts on the matter). ------- My current feelings on the state of things: Stronger Trust Burnt Spaghetti - Someone redirected Joe's attack action to Burnt. They might have aimed at a random action of Joe's, but Joe took multiple actions, so it's more likely they specifically targeted Joe's T1A action. While that could have been a Noble using their Soulcaster Jasnah-style to attempt a vigilante-kill on someone they distrusted, chances are still higher that it was a Ghostblood targeting a suspected vigilante and redirecting their attack to another Noble. Noble Soulcasters are far more likely to use their casters to redirect a Role action back at the user of the Role action, hoping to cause a Ghostblood to kill themselves. Why didn't I declare Burnt as my heir? Because I hadn't done this analysis yet and hadn't realized how much I trusted Burnt. I might switch my declaration, if I'm allowed. We'll see what else happens.The Grandbow-user who killed Orlok - I think it's obvious that whomever did that is a Noble. Someone could have used a Soulcaster to redirect someone's attack action slot to Orlok, but that's much less likely. I don't have many clues as to this person's identity, but I'm pretty sure they aren't Trelagist due to the number of Grandbows fired last night, one of which was a one-shot used by Trelagist. Presumably, a permanent one was used to kill Orlok since there was only one death that night, and I'd expect the permanent to have been used last night as one of the three fired.The Soulcaster who redirected Orlok's item creation action to Trelagist. The weird thing here is that if they targeted "role action," they couldn't have known if it would be a spy action, an Artifabrian action, a thief action, or a GB kill. Most of those are negative actions, only the Artifabrian action is positive, and one of them is a kill. On night two, if Orlok had performed the GB kill, it isn't clear if the kill AND the item creation would have been redirected or just a random one (I think it was a random one). So, the redirect is weird, but there is no reason for a GB to redirect another GB's role action. Unless they were going for misdirection, but the chances of that coming out and helping create trust for a GB is so slight, it makes no sense. If the redirector is a GB, then Trel has to be a GB and it was just a bit of misdirection (pun intended). If the redirector was a Noble (which makes much more sense), then it says nothing about Trel except that it is almost certain Trel isn't the Soulcaster who did the redirect, since if the redirector was noble, they couldn't have known they weren't redirecting a kill, and who would take a chance of redirecting a killing or thievery to themselves? So, I think the Soulcaster is a Noble, because otherwise, I just can't see the gamble of the GBs working out as more beneficial than redirecting a random Noble's kill/spy/thievery/etc to another random Noble. Note: If either item holder mentioned above wants to come forward, they would be practically confirmed Nobles, at least in my eyes. Having some confirmed Nobles would be super nice right now, but it would also make them targets, so it might not be a great idea right now. But, if you think people are going to lynch (or vig) you, you might want to come forward with that information. If you trust me and have a Spanreed, I'd love it if you let me know, but most of our Spanreeds are now in the hands of thieves and Ghostbloods, so I don't think that's going to happen. Weaker Trust Stink - I don't have a good reason for this. It's mostly gut, and my gut is often wrong, but, oh well. Wilson thinks Stink's the thief, or did on N2. Twei - Sounds legit from her posts. I could be wrong, of course, but some of the things she's said make her sound more Noble than Ghostblood. As a note, Twei is high on Wilson's trust list (or was on N2), and on Elbereth's slight distrust list (or was on N3). Elbereth didn't remember why she had Twei down as slightly suspicious. Distrust The Soulcaster-user who redirected Joe's attack to Burnt - see reasoning under Burnt Spaghetti for details. Trelagist - He's been on my suspicion list for a little while. His posts just strike me as suspicious. Also, he, specifically, couldn't have been the Grandbow or Soulcaster user mentioned in my Trust list. Comments on the Duelists DC - DC twice declared a confirmed Noble as an heir. DC told me what all of his items were on N2, and, presumably, listened to me about how to use one of them. I'm assuming DC has a Shardblade because he mentioned a blade in his duel declaration and did not mention plate. If that's correct, then it's either Joe's Shardblade or it isn't. See the math behind the spoiler, but assuming everything has an equal chance, there's only about a 6% chance that DC has Joe's Blade. Why is it important to know if DC's Shardblade is Joe's or not? Because if it isn't, then, unless someone gave DC the blade on N2, DC started with that Blade. No one else with a Blade has died, and Thieves can't steal Blades. We know that every Shardblade attack done so far came from Joe's blade since he said so in his deathcry. (Please let me know if I'm wrong and missing something.) Why would a Ghostblood not kill someone with the Blade every night they could? Or, at least one out of the three nights, especially when it was clear a Noble was using a Blade to attack every night? Also, it would be weird for a Ghostblood to start with a Blade when their bonus win condition is to get a Blade. But, having a Blade at the start doesn't auto-clear you unless Maill specifically says GBs can't start with a Blade, because Maill confirming that no Blades went to GBs during setup would auto-clear everyone who started with a Blade, which I don't think is desired for this game setup. Now, DC having started with that Blade would still be a bit off to me, because he specifically told me he did not have a Shardblade on N2 when I confronted him about it. He claimed to be in contact with the Shardblade wielder, but kept specifically insisting it wasn't him. If he thought I was a Noble, why wouldn't he say he had the Shardblade? They can't be stolen, and starting with one but never using it practically confirms you're a Noble. By the way, if you started with the blade that DC now has and gave it to him on N1, N2, or N3, then you're definitely a Noble in my eyes. A GB giving away a Shardblade makes no sense whatsoever to me. We could use some confirmed Nobles right about now, if you wanted to come forward. But, you could be attacked, so it's up to you. Wilson - I feel that Wilson plays like me and approaches games like I do, so I have a natural desire to trust her. That means it would be very easy for her to mislead me, so I need to be careful about trusting my gut about her. We've proved her N2 Spanreed did not come from Orlok's N1 item creation. She told me she had Plate on N2, and she has proven to not be lying about it. Her attempt at misdirection to make people think she didn't have Plate is not suspicious since it's a good tactic for a Noble to hide the fact that they are protected from the GB night kill. I want to trust her because she trusts me (she wouldn't have told me she had Plate if she didn't (and was a Noble)), but I don't have any proof that she's a Noble. Regarding the playstyle disagreements between Wilson and DC, I'm rather certain that's all genuine and not Ghostblood theatre to distract us. Wilson's solution to the disagreement is the healthiest one possible - deescalating by ignoring further direct interactions. DC, on the other hand, deliberately escalated the disagreement. If he isn't GB and didn't have further proof about Wilson beyond what he's said here in the thread, then his action is really poor sportsmanship, in my opinion. So, in short, pending more information, I have strong evidence that DC is probably a Noble, but then a confusing piece of evidence that mitigates it slightly, and this duel makes no sense to me if DC is not a Ghostblood. But we've already established that my playstyle is very, very different from DC's, and I think both points that weaken my trust in DC are because of that playstyle difference. I have nothing to support trust in Wilson, but that doesn't make her a Ghostblood. Honestly, I think both are Nobles, but I also think there's more of a chance Wilson is a Ghostblood than DC, from the evidence I've seen. Also, unless Maill clarifies to the contrary, voting to kill Wilson won't kill her, it'll just break her damaged Shardplate. ------ EDIT: Edited for formatting. Oh, also, Seonid, you complained that the duel was declared with a full day left in the cycle, but duels MUST be declared at least 24 hours before the end of the day by the rules. Which makes sense, because some people don't check this thread too often, and declaring a duel invalidates all votes against other people. People need time to realize that a duel was declared and change their vote to one of the targets (or abstain).
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Hmm? I think you misunderstood my question. DC declaring the duel prevents anyone else from being lynched. You had the most votes when the duel was declared, having just gained your second. There was only one other vote out there, for Lopen. I wanted to know if DC specifically declared the duel to prevent you from being lynched or not.
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Since it can't be Galadon (unless I'm mistaken, aren't Elantrians immune to disease?) and Scadrial has the most Earth-like ecosystem, I'd bet it was Demoux specifically who brought The Plague to the Purelake.
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Err, not it isn't. It's declaring you to be less likely evil. <.< I could be totally wrong, but probability states that picking semi-arbitrarily from people not on my suspicion list is more likely to hit a townie. I really want to know if this is Joe's Blade that DC is using or not, because if it isn't, I'd like to propose something.
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DC, did you get your Shardblade from Joe? If you were Joe's heir, there's a 50% chance you did get it from him. If not, then you haven't used your shardblade all game, right? We've only seen one shardblade kill a night, and didn't Joe say he did those in his deathcry? I don't want to vote since both of the targets are on my trust list. Of course, my trust list is highly suspect given how badly my suspicion list has been totally wrong. So, for now, I will instead declare Stink to be my heir. If you'd rather I pick someone else, Stink, let me know. That's mostly random, but I want to move my heir away from my current target in case I get killed tonight. Sorry, current heir, I just don't know anymore. EDIT: Twei, it was at 6pm on the 1st of May, which was during Night Three. EDIT2: No, Lopen, Wilson did not tell me Joe had a Shardblade. EDIT3: DC, is there a reason you are specifically preventing Trel from being lynched?
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By the way, note that Joe said s/he declared an heir. That means there's only a 50% chance the Ghostbloods now have the blade. Hopefully, they got the Painrial instead... That's not great since the more they have, the more protection they have from Grandbows, but them getting the blade would be much worse.
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Well, I know someone who says they were given a one-night Spanreed on night two that they used last night. Since Artifabrians cannot make the same item twice in a row, either there are two Noble Artifabrians as well as Orlok, or Orlok made Wilson's one-night Spanreed. I think it's totally plausible for there to have been three Artifabrians in a 28 player game, especially since Artifabrians have such limitations on their power. I'd be very surprised though if there were more than one Ghostblood Artifabrian, but nothing stops that from being true. EDIT: Err, I missed that Elb revealed to everyone that she had a one-night spanreed or I would have mentioned her specifically (she's the one I meant). Also, I appear to have somehow read over some posts without reading them since, looking back, people have already said what I said above. Oops! Sorry for the accidental rehash.
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Actually, unfortunately, Trelagist's confirmation that he did get the Grandbow that I guessed he had is not useful information. I had heard that someone redirected Orlok's role action target to Trelagist on the night he died. There were extra Grandbows last night, and Maill specifically clarified the order of actions such that Artifabrian came before death, so I assumed that one of the Grandbows was made by Orlok. Unfortunately, we don't know who Orlok's real target for the item was from this information. Honestly, I asked the question I did for two real reasons. Since Trelagist had no way of knowing why I made my guess, if he was an eliminator, I was faintly hoping he would lie about it. But, there's no reason for him to lie about it regardless of his allegiance, I just though it was worth trying anyway just in case. The other reason was checking if the person who switched the action was telling the truth. Again, them telling the truth doesn't really mean much, but them lying would have meant something. So, it was a failed attempt to gain information by startling someone with a question.
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Well, Trel seems to be waiting for their target to announce that they were attacked and not killed, but if they were protected by a Painrial (and I know I was since Joe's deathcry said I was), I don't know if they'd know. Also, I don't know if a Painrial's protection would even show up in the writeup, or just Shardplate's protection. I know that a Shardblade hitting a Half-shard did NOT show up in the writeup, since Burnt claims to have been hit and protected by a Half-shard and Joe confirms that their attempted Shardblade kill was redirected to Burnt. EDIT: In other news, we, as a collective group, appear to be continuing to die from the bottom up. There's now only one person still acting as a buffer between me and the Curse of the Bottom - Trelagist. Note to self - next time, sign up sooner. Bottoms of lists are dangerous!
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"The Thing" turned out to be the fact that Roshar's map was generated from a specific mathematical equation, a Julia Set, I believe. Too lazy to search this forum for the post. Basically, the map is a two dimensional shadow of a three dimensional representation of a four dimensional object. People explain it better in the discovery thread Someone there posted the equation that generates Roshar along with the exact number of iterations Roshar's specific shape requires. If I remember correctly, the fact that Roshar's map was generated that way indicates that the entire landmass, all the land on Roshar, was created by layers and layers of crem dropped by highstorms. Because it's a natural process, it follows nature's rules, and thus fractals. Or something. I only skimmed the maths and geology stuff. EDIT: And if you're unfamiliar with Julia Sets, check out the song "Mandelbrot Set" by Jonathon Coulton. [ Link ] The set described in the song is actually a Julia Set, not a Mandelbrot Set, despite the song's title and lyrics. They're easy to get confused, apparently. But, the description of the actual set is right on point for a Julia Set. (That song is even more factually wrong these days since Benoit Mandelbrot passed away a few years back and is no longer teaching math at Yale.) "Just take a point called Z in the complex plane Let Z1 be Z squared plus C And Z2 is Z1 squared plus C And Z3 is Z2 squared plus C and so on If the series of Zs will always stay Close to Z and never trend away That point is in the Mandelbrot [Julia] Set" (To change those lyrics to actually describe a Mandelbrot set, I believe you just replace all instances of C with Z)
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On this note, is there any chance Maill could clarify what results in being notified (and what doesn't)? Like, do you get notified if someone protects you with a Painrial and someone tries to attack you with a Grandbow (or Ghostblood kill) and fails? Clearly, you get told when your Half-shard breaks, and I'd guess you'd get informed if your Shardplate is hit by a Shardblade or Grandbow/Ghostblood. Also, if your action is redirected, do you get told it was redirected? In the games I used to play, GMs gave no information at all except who died and what their loyalty and role were. Like, to use this game's roles as an example, if you shot someone with a Grandbow, but a Soulcaster redirected your action into someone who was protected by a Painrial, no one would get told anything. If someone with a Painknife blocked the Painrial from being used, then no one would be told anything, but in the writeup, the person the attack was redirected to would be dead, with the person who tried to protect them not knowing why their protection failed and the person who fired the Grandbow not knowing it was them who killed the person (but they would see that their target did not die, which could mean they were redirected, or that their target was protected and someone else killed the other person). If someone used an Emotion Bracelet on a target, but a Soulcaster redirected their action, they would be told one action performed by their new target, but wouldn't know they were redirected or who they were redirected to. If someone was redirected to someone who didn't take any action, they would be told the same exact thing as they would if they were Painknifed and were not able to use the Emotion Bracelet at all. Clearly, things are done differently around here, but I'm not exactly sure how and can't find it written out anywhere.
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It wasn't an ARG, just a cool puzzle that took people a little while to figure out. Similar to, though different from, "The Thing" with the map of Roshar. ARGs are much more involved and involve not only multiple puzzles, but multiple pieces of media. Deciphering the Unified Theory of Realmatic Investiture, something that most of this site is often dedicated to, is far more of an ARG xD
