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It certainly seems that way. If I understand correctly, the dead elims might only want to use their votes to execute Fifth or Kas when parity is reached. And there are probably some dead villagers who are saving their vote for LyLo as well. So it is a vote manipulation but sort of only at endgame? Unless one or both sides decide to gamble on spending it earlier. It is not an ordinary vote manipulation that's for sure. This may well be too much to ask, but I don't suppose anybody's been keeping track of all the roleclaims and what each role supposedly does? I've picked up on a couple of them but I don't have anything near a comprehensive record, and this feels like the kind of thing that could be helpful for sorting out what the heck this game is about. Edit: Does anyone else find it weird how the elim win condition is worded? They win either by executing Kas/Fifth at parity, or by outnumbering the villagers. However, if they are at parity, then any mislynch ought to result in outnumbering the villagers regardless, so what is the purpose of including a clause about voting for the GMs? They could hammer a villager or hammer the GM the result would be the same either way, since parity is required there is no mechanical difference that I can think of really. I mean, it could just be fluff, but due to the nature of blackouts I have to assume that it might not be. Dead elims do not count towards parity, right?

ideal, let's exe Araris and see what kind of candy spills out also, this just in: I did actually definitely kill TKN. I apologize for any confusion. I am still a pacifist but mistakes happen Edit: Can Trolls steal roles? How likely is it that this is some terrible pun like "Troll = Thief-role" :thonk: Fifth, Kas, you would never do that right >>

Interesting. I guess, so long as dead players don't count towards parity, it's not really that much of a problem? Hey are there vote manips? Can a vote manip be used to make a dead player waste their singular vote to impact parity? Probably fewer elims to balance out the whole "blackout" and "they can still vote when dead" business, right? Unless the village has some super wicked 1337 roles Hey, how many claims do we have at this point? Also, I think the robot laws for the elims are probably more like this:

Wait fr Kas bro Fifth bro I have questions Also, please don't take this the wrong way or anything, but Have we tried exing you again For science? Of course, I would never do this personally For I am a pacifist Edit: I should have finished reading >> Did we try this, then?

Alright y'all I'm a pinch hitter so I guess prepare yourselves to get pinched and/or hit I am sure that there is a possible world in which this is the case >:P I will get back to you on the matter of how close that possible world is to our own, since I don't know yet! But I resent the implication that I and / or my predecessor is a violent individual. I will have you know that I am very pacifist. Or at least, I am fairly sure that there is at least a nonzero chance that I may not have killed TKN. Bold of you to assume that I will catch up before playing This cycle is only 3 pages long though what's up with that We can do better surely It being the first few hours of the cycle is no excuse!! Edit: Hmmm so this is a blackout so I don't even have to read the rules is what I'm gathering from that I don't know what's going on, but I don't even have to! This day just gets better and better Also, this just in: I probably did not kill TKN. Have I claimed to have a kill role? :thinking: Also, shame on you, I had to edit my post because nobody's posted yet. At this rate we'll never overrun the thread, overwhelm Kas and Fifth, and seize the memes of production beat our record of page counts from earlier cycles

I hope I did an okay enough job that you could focus on the important stuff without regrets I enjoyed reading your RP from earlier cycles FWIW This was a wild game Our fabulous GMs did good

If this game ever reruns remind to play as a literal gizka with a blaster Edit: Who was it who gave guns to the gizka anyway?

Wow Kas has a lot of thoughts in the dead doc Lots of doc reading to do I see Should be interesting Sorry for my part in that Look I didn't want you to die even if I was pretty darn sure you were evil, I didn't really want to give up the "Alvron is the confirmed Jedi" bit You will get your statue though, Dr. Dacken Humtumb will make sure of it. Somehow. Good taste Okay I just had the Worst Gambit Idea™ for this game. Have one Jedi challenge the other Jedi to a duel. Whoever wins, pretend to be a normal villager who got incorrectly targeted by the Jedi. Become "cleared" of being a Jedi for life. Somehow avoid getting lynched by the village, who just saw somebody kill one of the Jedi. ??? Profit. Tremble in fear of my brilliant stratagems, and be glad that I did not think of this during the game be especially glad if you're a villager, since this idea is awful

Ahahahahaha I was so sure Alv was evil We did plan for village!Alvron but I didn’t think it was likely I’m glad there are some surprises Alvron was a true hero in the end Fifth, you didn’t die! Good work This game was a blast. And a good way to rehabilitate my village skills It pleases me to know my absolutely terrible distancing strategy wrapped around to being good again, just as planned I’d tend to agree that giving Force Push a cooldown and/or just allowing cultists to submit kills from the start might make sense as a balancing move. We had a couple of early semi-clears (Ashbringer, Madagascar) that made the PoE in the late game that much more powerful. Which tbf is part of why the strategy appealed to me and Fifth from the start of the game (that, and the fact that a one-apprentice doc enabled certain gambits, including but not limited to the one that happened in this game… I am going to defend the decision of not making very many apprentices as a valid one, I think). But requiring the Jedi to be more tactical in their redirects wouldn’t have been a bad thing for the game at all. Thanks for running the game, Kas! Especially with those writeups I mean bro you outdid yourself GG

"What else would you eat? Well, death sticks of course! You appear to have an astoundingly high tolerance." "No more gizka, I exhort you! Gizka are more bones and gristle than meat, anyway. Death sticks, on the other hand, are full of all kinds of crazy nutrients, if the psychedelic effects don't drive you to distraction. Or at least, that sounds like it could plausibly be true. Nay, I recommend a strict death-stick-only diet from now on. Doctor's orders."

Intimidate me will you??? The bold and mighty Dr. Dacken Humtumb is not so easily cowed. He apparently stared down a terentek without nary a flicker of self-preservation instinct!!! The gore landed on Dr. Dacken Humtumb's shirt, and slowly slid down, leaving a stain in the cloth that he suspected would prove persistent. He tried not to let it get to him too much, of course. Clothes could be replaced. Gizka could too, for that matter: as far as Dacken knew they might be the fastest-breeding vertebrate in the galaxy. But it was the principle of it the thing. Enough was enough. Dacken shrugged, and tried for one of his enigmatic smiles, the very same that he'd practiced while playing correllian spike with Nodice and Tantyck. Unfortunately, after the terentek episode, Tantyck hadn't been feeling up to more card games, and even Nodice had finally kicked the habit for good. "Certainly, I can repeat myself. Yes, yes, you were very brave. I was of course, saying that nobody should ever call you a coward, after what you've done. Indeed, the only thing about you that potentially exceeds the utmostly unique heights of your valor is the height of your person. I really mean it, you are an exceptional individual." "Why, I've scarcely ever seen a soul stab a distracted target more courageously!" "And challenging two Jedi at once? Incredibly brave! Such a shame they so happened to be busy when you so happened to decide to challenge them, I suppose." "And last but not least, killing a group of poor, defenseless, friendly gizka and then fleeing when confronted about it? Truly, you are an inspiration to us all in the ways of valor, most particularly the better part of it." For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure I read you as village rn? It's not the strongest read I have, but... You seem more village than not, everything held equal. I also village read Fadran I just figure, y'know, we probably shouldn't leave it all up to the Jedi. If it turns out Wizard isn't Dasann Reborn, I'd rather be able to say we were doing our best to cover for that possibility this cycle. EDIT: Ok I just read the part where Wizard claims to be Desann Reborn Which probably raises the odds that neither you nor Fadran are evil I mean, we still probably shouldn't take it 100% at face value, after all, a cultist would have reason to lie about being the Desann Reborn... but also like... If I had to guess, I'd say I'm a good 95% sure Wizard is being honest here, and the village win con is no longer in the thread for us to vote. ...in which case, idk I guess we should still vote the best way we think, for good measure. Old habits die hard May I also say that quokka looks positively giddy to be holding a weapon and it is now my second-favorite animal in this game

You’re happy to try and pick a fight with two Jedi at once, but won’t start a fight with little old Dr. Dacken Humtumb and his gizka telling you to cease and desist, hmmmm??? I am offend If you won’t face Dacken’s bare fists, than face his scathing and razor sharp wit and tremble! Are you normally this much of a coward, or did you drink up all of your fighting spirit after you ran out of Mandalorian ale???

Oh good I was hoping for Desann Reborn, but I’ll take a cultist flip What’s the deal with a Turtle kill? Did the bad guys maybe think they were an apprentice with a dangerous ability? Kind of surprised they hadn’t tried a second attack on Turtle since C2 or whenever. JNV. I’d give loads of loads of reasoning for this vote, but it’s literally just process of elimination, if Fifth’s claims are to be trusted, which I really hope they can be because otherwise what even If the Desann Reborn is Wizard, well the thread can’t do much about that right now, it’s in the Jedi’s hands. With JNV and Fadran as the remaining people I might vote for, I’d wager JNV is a sith over Fadran. Fadran was a countertrain to Matrim, which makes very little sense if Fadran is Desann Reborn. Also, gut. I rest my case. But hopefully it’s Wizard and the vote doesn’t matter. Edit: we should still act like it does, though

"Cease and desist!" Dr. Dacken Humtumb walked onto the scene. "Why must everyone try to kill my poor gizka?!! What is it about their cute countenances that make people abuse them so??!!" "Also, hello! I understand that you're very, ah, excited. And by excited I mostly mean drunk. But I don't suppose you could be persuaded to take your alchohol-fueled rampage somewhere else? Um. Not to put too fine a point on it, but enough is enough. If you do not leave the gizka alone, the Jedi won't be your only problem, methinks."

If Matrim turns out village I'm gonna feel bad for pushing this quite as hard as I did Village!Drake pretty much spends all his time either building cases for a train or wondering if the train is actually wrong after it has support But my doubts haven't gotten to the point where I think another vote is actually better I am going to have to trust that the past version of myself who was probably thinking better about all of this tbh was on the money EDIT: Actually wait it's only a 4/3 vote anyways xD Yeah no I'm gonna go with Mat still being sus probably

It is not actually currently a tie, by my count. Vote Tally Ookla the [Redacted] (3): Ashbringer, Wizard the Myopic, Matrim the Tall Matrim the Tall (2): DrakeMarshall, Madagascar WIzard the Myopic (2): Alvron, Fadran the [Redacted] Ashbringer (1): JNV Also, to y'all who are saying there could be E/E action between Matrim and Fadran: Why the dickens in that case would Matrim and Fadran have formed competing trains like this then? I do not believe they are E/E, I increasingly think Fadran is village this cycle. I would also like to point out that other than Matrim's completely understandable self-pres vote, the other two votes on Fadran are largely unexplained. I would have been happy with even one sentence that was concrete and not a rephrasing of "I think Fadran is the most suspicious" but I do not feel like that happened in either of the other Fadran votes. And while both Ashbringer and Wizard promised to revisit things, tbh I am more concerned with the outcome of this cycle than any hypothetical explanation we might get in later ones. And while I did say voting is more important than explaining, I do not think that I feel the most good about a largely unexplained countertrain taking the lead on cycle 5. That is still pretty darn suspect as far as I'm concerned. That is all.

I think there were some possible directions the discussion of my points could have gone in that weren't incorporeal, but it didn't happen. Whether that is because you are just a very unlucky villager or an eliminator, time will have to tell, I suppose. Especially if you don't flip this cycle due to the sudden incidence of Fadran votes.

Why would e!Matrim kill Fifth, a person who in the absence of Fifth's claim this cycle would have probably gotten exed, and who has been in danger of getting exed for almost the entire game? Yeah what I'm saying is, that's a bit alignment indicative imo. Tbf, I think the fact that we nearly executed Fifth, a Jedi, is a pretty good pointer that maybe some of the village was struggling to do that weighing. But I'm also quite sure an eliminator wouldn't even think to do that weighing. Maybe a villager would, maybe a villager wouldn't, but an eliminator almost definitely wouldn't. No shade about not explaining everything I am a firm proponent in the right to be vague about things sometimes The shade is about framing it like you were explaining everything when arguably you were not. Unfortunately, yes. Few votes are fair. Do you think I'm being excessively unfair in this case? You predicted 1-2 Cultists. There are 18 players. 18/4 = 4.5, so the 25% rule would predict exactly between 2 and 3 Cultists. 1 cultist is much closer to 15% than 25%. Again, it's a small thing, but you do know the typically 25% ratio. The simplest explanation is you had a reason to adjust it, which doesn't jive with the level of knowledge that you claimed to have. If you want to argue that you don't remember this, maybe that's true, let's say I'll believe you on that. But whether you remember right now or not isn't alignment indicative. What you decided to do at the time is, I think. Prior to Hael dying, the main thing is the vote manipulation which handily framed Shining, but that could just be Hael. After Hael dying though, the only kill so far is Devotary. We don't have that many eliminator actions to draw conclusions from, particularly when some of the eliminator actions were blocked, but you work with what you have. The thing is, the Devotary kill decision is actually very in-line with the actions before Hael dying, I think. Again, it frames Fifth really well. And the eliminators have already framed somebody once. Do you disagree with that assessment of it? You can say you don't think that the kill was strategic, and that you therefore aren't an eliminator because obviously the eliminators made a decision they thought was strategic, but that doesn't really help a village reading of you I am very guilty of having used the "I am not an eliminator because I think X decision by the eliminators makes no sense" argument while being an eliminator myself This is not the only place where you use that variant of reasoning. It has already come up in this game that by far the best defense is providing analysis of other players, so yes, good luck! This will be the best way forwards regardless of your alignment probably. It's technically possible. In this case, it could also be a kind of twisty reaction test, I think. But I don't think it would work. Far be it from me to suggest a course of action when so far the Jedi have killed a Sith and I haven't, but: If the two real Jedi both used their vote manipulations to switch a vote onto one of Fifth or Alvron, we know the Sith only has 1 vote manipulation, so this proves that Fifth and Alvron are lying without revealing the Jedi. The only way something like this fails to punish the Sith for their gambit is if they manage to lynch one of the real Jedi before next cycle, but in that case I'd expect Fifth and Alvron to be trying to lead the charge against a particular train much more strongly than they are doing this cycle (neither of them have voted still I think). Also, cultist!Fifth and cultist!Alvron would really need to have balls of steel for this

See, this kind of makes it worse One, you did target Madagascar. Not with the NK, but with the exe last cycle, and I don't see how that makes much of a difference. From the elims perspective, the only difference between the exe and the NK is that you use the exe on people you think you can make a plausible case against. Two, it sounds like you're saying you're village on the basis that you assumed it was e/e and not Jedi/Jedi. But v!Matrim would have no way of knowing it wasn't Jedi/Jedi. You'd have to weigh whether it was e/e or Jedi/Jedi in your head before doing anything. If you decided it was more likely to be Jedi/Jedi than something else, you might choose to keep it under wraps. For me, at least, wondering about that sort of thing, whether I should draw attention to a possible connection or not, has been kind of a big part of this game? Now, everyone has a different thought process, I get that, but the fact that you're implying that this didn't really come up for you, does not help the case for v!Matrim in my eyes. Okay, fair, you get the benefit of the doubt on this one. With all due respect, this is still a pretty vague reasoning, for you to be marketing it as "spelling it out" You've pretty much just said Bookwyrm was doing suspicious things, and that there were opportunistic votes without saying which ones. This is also ex post facto reasoning. Maybe this was legitimately your thought process when you voted. Maybe not. It is unfortunately not something I can take your word for. I mean, were you not reading the Cultist-specific rules? Tbh, I'm not sure I'd even know the difference between Cultists and Desann Reborn without rereading that part if your memory is anywhere near as poor as mine (and I don't think my memory is honestly very bad in the grand scheme of things tbh), you would have needed to reread the cultist section to know even that If you had claimed you'd just skimmed over the one sentence part where it says Cultists can gain a kill, I might have bought that, but you also seem to be arguing on top of that you weren't really reading the Cultist section, which feels iffy. Again, you were making guesses about the number of Cultists relative to Desann Reborn, and while that doesn't prove you were reading about those rules, it sure does make it more likely. I will also say, your predicted number of Cultists felt very lowball for the 25% rule. Why? It's a small thing, but it does not make a lot of sense if you didn't know about the Cultist promotion mechanic, but makes quite a bit of sense if you did. Especially if you didn't yet understand that the promotion mechanic means that the Cultist only gains a kill without becoming a full Desann Reborn, which as far as I can remember that part only got specifically clarified circa C3. Hael is dead, I am village, JNV was inactive last cycle. Of the remainder, I currently trust you the least, but if you want to elaborate and make a specific accusation against one or more of them, I will listen. EDIT: Because I have more to say, and there haven't been any other posts yet! Oh, no, a Jawa Jedi is epic I just didn't expect an Alvron Jedi Vote Tally Matrim's_Dice (2): DrakeMarshall, Madagascar Ashbringer (1): JNV Ookla the [Redacted] (1): Ookla the Myopic @Ashbringer @Ookla the Tall @Fifth Scholar @ookla the POKE VOTE @Alvron @Ookla the [Redacted] This is your complimentary cyclic reminder to VOTE! Some of you I trust as Jedi, some of you I think are Desann Reborn, it doesn't really matter, whoever you are and whatever your situation is please vote! If you say you have no time I don't believe you, it only takes like 1 or maybe 2 words of typing I for one would rather live in a village who votes and gets it wrong than a village who doesn't vote I would also like to again point out that the Jedi will likely be using Force Sense this round so we really can't afford to leave it all up to their actions anymore. One way or another, the hope of the village is in the thread now. An aside: Fifth, about that, one thing I still don't get. Why'd you both claim? @JNV You are currently voting for persons who either are a Jedi claimant or are somebody a Jedi claimant claimed was cleared of being Desann Reborn, and while it's your choice, I figured you should be made aware since you haven't weighed in since before the big claim

So I had a think, and I have some New Conclusions™ Of the folks that Fifth gave us [Matrim, Fadran, Wizard, JNV] Matrim's Dice. My reasons are as follows: Matrim's behavior before Fifth's reveal. In light of both Devotary's village alignment flip right after majorly sussing Fifth, and Fifth's reveal, I think it is obvious that the eliminator team had intended to frame Fifth this cycle. I do not believe for an instant that the eliminator team didn't kill Devotary with an awareness in mind of what Devotary had been posting about last cycle, and what's more frame-ups are clearly in-character for this eliminator team in light of how they've used their vote manips. So, what would I expect an eliminator to be doing early on this cycle? Well, probably not leading the charge on Fifth, tbh. That completely defeats the purpose of an indirect frame-up. If they wanted to just push the votes through the simple way, they should have just left Devotary alive and killed somebody else. I'd wager they would be more likely to hold off on voting, but would maybe helping along the conclusion they wanted in other ways. Matrim has thus far been pretty active but has abstained from voting. And I don't even think this can be explained by having no leads or being uncertain, because Matrim saw enough reason to do a focused post about Madagascar and vote for them last cycle, and even verbally affirmed that this suspicion is still going strong this cycle. So if you aren't at a loose end, you aren't uncertain or discontent with where things are, but you also don't appear quite as invested in the voting... Why? It's hard not to read that as somewhat calculated. This isn't LyLo (this game doesn't even really have a LyLo), but it reminds me of the kind of activity I see from eliminators at LyLo when they are trying to shoehorn in their pick. He also repeatedly brought up the lack of reasoning on the Alvron vote, the only other vote at the time, which not only subtly encouraged a Fifth execution to go down smoothly today, but also feels like a lack of effort to actually go look when reasoning for the Alvron vote had absolutely been given last cycle. Matrim's vote for Bookwyrm last cycle. As previously mentioned, Matrim voted for Bookwyrm mainly with the reasoning that the votes on Alvron lacked reasons. This is persistently very weird to me, because the Bookwyrm vote was definitely much less explicitly reasoned than any potential Alvron vote. At best, this feels like a desire to have a vote without a lot of concern about what that vote is. Matrim's response to D1 discussion about cultist promotion. Matrim indicated that he had not been aware that the rules allowed a cultist to promote to gain the ability to make kills in the event of a Dasann Reborn's death. On second consideration, I am going to press X to doubt. For one, I do have some faith in Matrim's attentiveness to detail. But more to the point, Matrim's first post of the game announced that he had just reread the rules, and also specifically made a prediction about the number of cultists and asked other people to weigh in on that. In other words, he had literally just been reading the rules, and specifically the ones about cultists. A few posts later he acts unaware of how cultists work, which I think stretches plausibility by a significant amount for me. I read this as an eliminator attempt to garner village cred. Process of Elimination. If Alvron is village, I feel there ought to be somebody else on the eliminator team who would engage in / suggest the slightly headgame-y kill doctrine I've seen. I don't know about the other three that much, but I am reasonably confident Matrim would. I also feel that the eliminators would have some kind of thread control, and Matrim is verily the best candidate on that count. The other people who have been consistently pivoting votes are basically confirmed village from where I'm standing. And I am skeptical of the narrative where the eliminator team has no significant thread control, if only because of the village's poor track record at executing evils I dunno. Maybe I'm reading into things too much. But if I gotta pick between [Matrim, Fadran, Wizard, JNV]: My choice is Matrim.

Let's just say I thought you might be one of the Jedi but did not expect Alvron to be the other one See, this is exactly what I was worried about >> The Force Pushing makes good sense to me, I think, but I can't think of an obvious way that this works for your alleged other method, which makes me.. have some concerns I don't really have a choice but to go with it and take you at your word if you won't share more, but I have doubts that it's a 100% hard mechanical clear and not something more circumstantial, so please at least do me a favor and revisit that it might not be ironclad. Basically, please avoid betting all your chips in one malaphorical basket whatever that looks like Is there a particular reason you chose to reveal this cycle? Vote Tally Fifth Scholar (2): Madagascar, Ookla the [Redacted] Ashbringer (1): JNV We are clearly going to need a new vote, but I need some time to think. EDIT: Why the Force is there a taco in my palpatine meme??? Why was that the top google images result????? Who okayed this???? You know what I'm keeping it

heck yea! uh also it turns out one of my stronger reasons for trusting you was actually very off base but alls well that ends well i do not think this could reasonably be a lie or at least, if it is, it isn't a very good one at all Alvron heck yea!! x2 combo!! uh can I ask specifically how/why the three of us are in the clear though? I don't particularly doubt you, but I have been burnt by believing it when someone else said a player was mechanically cleared, when they were not, and well I am not the most anxious for a repeat performance. Getting more eyes on this information could not hurt.

yea have like 4 refusal to vote and stuff when he is around, which while amusing isn’t a great fit of my profile of village!Alvron the Fifth vote is still bad imo, honestly it feels a little like maybe none of you actually read the contents of my defenses of Fifth and just mentally filed it as a suspicious defense nobody has responded to my points, despite being quite happy to view the fact that the defense existed as alignment indicative Alvron has survived one too many votes, and in particular I can’t completely ignore your vote in contraposition to the possibility of an Alvron execution, not when you said it was because there was no reasoning to execute Alvron and then voted Bookwyrm, because I don’t really remember me or any of the other Bookwyrm voters from providing any substantive reasoning against Bookwyrm like at all Hael was doing almost exactly the distancing things to Alvron, which I pointed out last cycle “Everyone, if I may have metaphorical a soap box for a minute,” Dr. Dacken Humtumb raised his voice. “I have been hearing a great many folks voicing concerns about the increasing gizka population hereabouts. Why, some of you even appear to regret the loss of the HK exterminator unit! Madness! It tried to exterminate me! Still, as I am a patient and benevolent doctor, I would like to address these concerns. In particular, some of you have stated that the gizka are an invasive species, and pose a threat to the indigenous ecology.” Dacken looked meaningfully at the ecologist amongst them. Or at least, he tried to. Where had the ecologist gotten to? This speech wouldn’t have nearly the same impact without him, Dacken pouted. But the only thing left to do was forge on. “This is a serious accusation against the gizka, and consequently I take it seriously. I would not want to see nature subverted, after all, no! I assure you the preservation of nature is chiefest of my concerns! But if your concern is for the natural ecosystem of Korriban… Well, I would challenge your assumptions! You know what they say, when you assume, you make an ass out of you and mmmmm. And I’m sure I don’t know who mmmmm is, but you probably don’t want to make an ass out of yourself, now, do you?” “Anyways, where was I? Right, Korriban’s natural ecosystem. Well. What natural ecosystem??? Look around you!” Dacken spoke at a fevered pitch, sweeping his hand expansively to gesture at the hostile scenery around him. Narrowly dodging a stray blaster bolt from a gizka in the process, which left a black scorch mark in the rock it collided with and a lingering smell of burnt and ozone. “Whatever natural ecosystem lived on Korriban has long since perished, choked to extinction or sculpted and reshaped over centuries of human interference. The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many creatures that some would consider… Unnatural. Why, just two days ago my gambling partner got bisected by a great big terentek!” “That is why I think gizka should be as welcome on Korriban as anything else. Everything’s a bit unnatural here! What’s a few extra gizka? Think of it less like an invasive species, and more like nature reclaiming a place in the wake of a natural disaster. A place that has not been allowed to sustain most kinds of life for quite some time. A place where the old, dead shrines of the sith are more important than living creatures, hah! Enough, says I! And besides that, do you really think the gizka pose a genuine ecological threat to such large predators like tu’kata, shyracks, terenteks?? I am more than confident that the Sith-bred creatures can look after themselves. Gizka are hardy, surprisingly intelligent, and above all cute… But they’re also pretty harmless. I really can’t think of a better critter to be the salvation Korriban.” “AND THAT IS WHY,” Dacken continued, “It is such a travesty, what has been done to my sweet little gizka. Yet again, nature has been co-opted by humanity for their own dubious designs! Yet again, the gizka are a scapegoat!” Dacken ducked under a fresh stream of blaster fire that seemed to follow him. Big, fat drops of sweat rolled down his face. He was not well-suited to this athleticism and acrobatics, no. Dodging blaster fire was so uncivilized for a learned gentleman such as Dr. Dacken Humtumb. Most physical labor was, but that was besides the point. “Come on, Waggs! Fight it! I know you’re in there somewhere!!!” Dacken pleaded. “Join me now, fellow inhabitants of Dreshdae. We must disarm the gizka, without hurting them. That is the only way we can truly resolve this conundrum. That is the only way to show we are better than this.” ”And besides, who knows what fighting the beasties will do? Gizkas have so many untapped depths. They multiply like gizka. If you incite the gizka to wrath more than you already have, I would not be so sure that humanity would emerge as the victors! Contemplate that for a moment!” ”I will be here, ready and poised to disarm any live, armed, and unharmed gizka you can safely subdue and deliver,” Dacken brandished a screwdriver. “Now, get to it! Give peace a chance!”

Well then it follows there’s 1 out of 10 doctors that does recommend mixing alchohol with death sticks That doctor is probably Dr. Dacken Humtumb tbh He is that 1 doctor companies call to disagree with the other 9 so that their ads sound more like a legitimate poll His only doctorate is in being contrarian

Well then. i was going to say “of course you would “of course you would sith” sith” but it doesn’t really work anymore you know what Let’s start the day with an Alvron 9/10 doctors recommend it And surely this is bound to work at finding a sith eventually right