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It's not really a spoiler, just a reference from a book you may not have read yet. . . but it would seem Sanderson's personal motto was uttered by a certain thieving crew chief: if you hang around the forums a while, You'll see that referenced fairly often. Nice simile

Much of my response was for King of Nowhere (but they went together), but if you are considering Lirin's POV/Frame of mind (non-specific spoilers for Lirin's characterization):

Interesting and plausible theory. Heightened emotion (along with strong sensory input) has been shown to improve memory. Also, if Tapping not only releases emotion, but the specific emotion stored; then that would be highly useful for actors, politicians and grifters (not that those aren't all the same thing really). . . PS: your title has "when" misspelled - but you can fix it if you edit the first post.

You'll have to supply the quote, I can't find it. Here's what I found: TWoK Ch 52 - Feverstone Keep descriptions: WoR Ch 4 - Pure Lake Vision

Did you mean "near" <Feverstone keep is hear Rall Elorim> Where did you get the "lake" part All we know is that it is near Rall Elorim It is in a valley and some buildings are built out of the valley sides with raincatchers on the roof because of the need for fresh water Since RE is in the middle of the mountains, it could be a valley in any direction from that point.

Concur - with the caveat that I think BS might not have been trying for humor. I think it's possible (probable) his goal was to make the scene as uncomfortable for the reader as it was for the bystanders witnessing this in-story.

From TWoK Ch 51: Also, I don't think Kaladin was given to a Slaver. All we really know is: So, if he had six slavemasters before becoming a Bridgeman (with the last being Slaver Tvlakv), it seems likely that Amaram either sold him directly to an owner at the next town, when stopping for supplies, or put him in a slave auction at that time.

Sure, according to modern sensibilities. In an environment that is pleasantly cool where no hard labor is being performed (so you don't sweat much, if at all), while living in a time and place that doesn't nearly have the tendency to daily (weekly/monthly) bathing that modern society does; it's not so strange. Also, keep in mind that this is the most unreliable narrator (Shallan) and she does not say "he doesn't bathe" - just that nobody she spoke to knew how/when/why. (Ch 75)

From Wiktionary: Harmony synonyms include: Accord Concord Union Agreement Discord Synonyms include: Tension Strife Dissension

F-Bendalloy (Subsumer) stores calories and nutrition. In fact, if he was a compounder he could not need any food (and therefore not produce waste).

Correct, the ability is based on Species. It is implied the worms become invested in the Shardpool and the birds become invested by eating the worms. SotD about 55% on the ebook So, more likely Mraize's aviar is one of two possibilities: It was a Raptor species brought to Patji to gain a talent - or - It's a normal (if carnivorous/omnivorous) Aviar and MRaize's ability to sense people near him is from Breaths. In fact, it's implied on the Coppermind/WoB that species that hide thought signatures can act as a Coppercloud to other forms of investiture and we know more than one species carries that talent because both Kokerlii and Mirris have that ability, despite being different species. It would make sense for Mraize to want this type of Aviar as well; and SotD is so far after the events we see, this could very well be a normal aviar species that has since died out on First of the Sun.

I just had a thought about all of this: Yes, Ruthar is sexist and a political enemy and threat Yes, Jasnah was obviously manipulating the situation Yes, Dalinar tried to calm things down Maybe it was more of a set-up than it seems on the surface.

Sure, but that's "outsider" hindsight. Consider it in the second person: Spoilers for WoK

Wasn't it already confirmed that the chain Kaladin saw was the same as the chain Raboniel received? Coppermind RoW So, if Kaladin saw a chain from Threnody, and the object Raboniel received was the same as what Kaladin saw (if not the same object, then the same type of object), then Raboniel received a Threnodite Chain.

In this book you will get the flashback to what happens to Tien. In books to come you will learn more about the Roshone and why Lirin was so against Kaladin becoming a soldier. Nice Katniss reference, btw.

Sixth of the Dusk? Do you perhaps mean Shadows for Silence in the Forests of Hell?

Duh Me

Note that in the WoB you quoted, he said the relationship was backward - so it's more likely the Sons were an offshoot of the Envisagers. Very true, so the Set may or may not be viable, depending on how active and prolific they were before the events we first saw them. Another possibility - Ishar's group. I doubt all Tukari are in on his twisted Spren experiments - so that may count as a secret society if he's built a specific cult to hunt spren in Shadesmar.

Patji may be an Avatar of Autonomy, but he is not Autonomy. Autonomy doesn't have to leave the Taldain system to create an Avatar in another system. In fact WoB says that it is difficult for a shard to leave a system they have Invested (hence no Odium investiture in Sel, despite Rayse going to that system to attack Devotion and Dominion - he never invested in the Selish system)

We know that Autonomy didn't leave the system (Au spoilers) I always took it that, from the dias, Praxton could see what was happening to his Sand Masters, deduced what was happening and sacrificed all of the moisture in his body for one huge effect hoping to save his son (and possibly some of his people).

After the description, I always pictured the Singer heart as a type of quartz (especially since it's SiO2 structure is a component of many beryl gemstones as well) Well, Heralds and Fused are similar beings, and that knife cuts both ways. So, while we can say that the Shanay-Im weren't willing to Rays-knife Jezrien; I don't know that we can expand that to any Fused unwilling to Rays-knife any Herald. It could just have been that that Heavenly Ones would be vulnerable to the same pole stone to which he was vulnerable.

I'm pretty sure Sixteen isn't Shin - Shallan only thought he was Shin because of the lack of epicanthic fold on his eyes. The name implies Scadrial as his homeworld

Well, the right hand appears to be a prosthetic (or metallic hand of some kind - unless it's a glove - but it seems thinner than the left hand) so that could be a clue. The character seems to be talking to or about Kelsier. . . (RoW Spoiler) So, it could just be a character of the artist's imagination; but, if not, we may be able to reason it out with those clues.

"Invested" - there are two under that prompt. SiarexKH - this seems to be a Ghostblood summoning or dismissing a shardblade _castanne - This appears to be the "symbolheads" watching Shallan and Jasnah in Kharbranth

What do you think of Lirin?