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The Fused were not digging under Kholinar Palace (OB Ch 121) And evidently, it was to make room for thier own construction (RoW Ch 14) We don't know that the human magic changed when they emigrated from Ashyn to Shinovar - it is just as likely that whatever happened on Ashyn changed the magic there after the refugees had left. It's also likely that whatever version of Surges they had on Ashyn were different from the ones now on Roshar, since we have no evidence of Spren on Ashyn either way (presense or absense). The destruction there could have been a different means of accessing surges; which would explain why allowing a Nahel bond to access surges on Roshar was considered a "natural limit on the power of surgebinders" and why "Unchained surges" (such as the honorblades) are so dangerous.
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Concur - which is why I said possible rather than probable. The description itself also doesn't match (but descriptions can change) since we know by the time Spook was in Urteau he was over 6 ft tall (by Scadrian feet) and Sixteen's description (Ch 75) doesn't match: That said, since we know that Shallan usually uses new aspects of her abilities unconciously (see the whole deserter fiasco), and we know that Lightweavers can also manipulate sound (not just light) - it is possible that unconcious lightweaving was used to direct any noise she was making away from Sixteen. While Spook is unlikely to be Sixteen, I would not rule out the possibility. I would also doubt it to be anybody older than Catacendre - just because of the breadth of powers (and metals) that would need to be known/understood and the amount of Atium aging that would have been needed for it to be a descendent of Rashek or similar.
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The problem would then be, if you release the "blade" to recall it, you have also "lost" the handle (and it won't come back). However, if you don't mind "disposable" handles, you would probably easily have a collection of cloth/leather/wood "handles" that are hollow on the inside. A living blade should be able to "congeal" where and how desired, so if it became a chakram with the center post already though the hollow handle you lash that and just try to collect the "empties" after the fight (knowing you'll never find them all). . .
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Even if their skin's metallic sheen has something to do with the Godmetal of Devotion/Dominion/Dor, it is unlikely it could block a Shardblade since an Elantrian's skin has been shown to be susceptible to normal blades (and other wounds) and we know Nightblood and Shardblades would not be vulnerable to ordinary steel. But the question is good and has interesting implications.
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Unlikely to be a Kandra, as they still need sustenance and would probably only draw this much attention if under-orders Would probably have to, at least, be a Subsumer compounder (or found a way to do so with Medallions or other fabrials - I imagine a "no-need-to-eat-or-drink" unsealed medallion would be quite popular with worldhoppers - and quite expensive) Spook is possible, as we can only confirm that he "stepped down from Ruling" and was over a century old when he did so - no confirmed death (yet) and he would only need a spike for F-Bendalloy to become a subsumer compounder Additionally, if he was already working with Kell at the end of MSH, could he have gone off-world to help solve Kell's little problem? So, most likely somebody unknown (and unlikely to be Terris - due to description) - but possibly Spook.
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Not including Warbreaker, which you said you are already reading (you may have already seen how that connects to Stormlight in WoR and OB), I would gauge the others as: Sixth of the Dusk - minor plot implications (and the one story I would definitely recommend pre-RoW as it is short, great and does connect) Elantris - few plot implications, only makes one reveal make more sense (and clarify a certain interaction from OB), but not necessary to understand the event(s) (my second suggestion for pre-RoW) Emperor's Soul - No definitive connection to RoW - but since ES is where Brandon first really started explaining Cosmere Realmatics, having it as the background can help make RoW more understandable Mistborn Era 1 - Minor connections to RoW, and one major reveal - but (as below): Era 2 - No real importance to RoW, except one epigraph reference - mostly important by association to: Secret History - Era 2 through BoM are important to read before SH if you care about spoilers (and it seems you do), SH makes a reveal in RoW more important but that importance could easily go the other way (after reading SH you realize - oh that's what <spoiler> meant in RoW. . . ) Shadows for Silence in the Forests of Hell - One minor connection in OB and RoW, but certainly not a prerequisite Originally Printed in Shadows Beneath (a great anthology if you like the behind-the-scenes of writing) where Brandon's writing group brainstormed a story for each member and this collection shows, in order: Each Story's final version Each brainstorming session Each First Draft One Edit Draft Excerpts:
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I don't think there was ever a name for that relationship; because it was so central to Era 1, and not a contested element (e. g. there was never a real chance Vin would have been with Spook, Zane, or anybody else). You aren't the only one
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I'm not sure of anything. Every reader's experience varies. If the person intends to only read Mistborn, and never read the rest of the Cosmere; then you still lose the impact that the Survivor survived death. You still lose the impact that Wax and gang's assumption that the Sovereign was Rashek was so far off-base. If those kinds of reveals are not the kind of thing the reader cares about then reading order doesn't matter much. Part of the equation is also if the reader enjoys re-reading a book or series. If they are the kind of reader to never ever read a book twice, it could weigh toward reading MSH at any point (early or after BoM) - Since half the fun of MSH is re-reading with Era 1, after the first read has shown the reveal. However, for most readers, that kind of spoiler is important. The only person I know that did read them in the order you suggested regretted it by the time they got to The Lost Metal. It's not even so much the knowledge as it is the context. Mistborn, in general (until MSH/TLM) is rather Cosmere unaware. MSH goes deep for Mistborn's first "larger story" and if you have only read Mistborn, you may not even know there is a larger story with which it Connects. So, even the simple things like Drifter lose meaning without context.
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At least after Band of Mourning. . . Really, I would suggest: Finish Hero of Ages Go back and read Eleventh Metal, if it was skipped Elantris Hope of Elantris (if reading the short stories) Warbreaker Emperor's Soul Alloy of Law Shadows of Self Bands of Mourning Mistborn: Secret History
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Mistborn: Secret History definitely has spoilers for Era 2 and the author recommends waiting until after Bands of Mourning to read it. Another factor is how much (if any) other Cosmere books/series has the individual read? If Mistborn is their first (or nearly first) work by Sanderson or in the Cosmere, then the ton of Cosmere references and information (Shadesmar, Ire, Connection, etc.) will not make much sense and will have far less impact than it should. For all of my friends that I have recommended Sanderson (and Cosmere) I have never recommended they read MSH after HoA. I just warn them that they could do so, but it is not recommend as it spoils things down the road and will make less sense unless they have read, at least, Warbreaker and Elantris after HoA and before Alloy of Law. I usually only recommend reading it with Era 1 during a re-read of the whole Era 1. Integrated Timeline: I also created a reading order for integrating the chapters/scenes of MSH with Era 1 (advised only for re-reads of all 5 works) and I also edited my epub so I have an integrated ebook for Era 1.
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Brandon has said that Scadrial is the most Earth-like in its technological path, so I always took this as just a background detail to show that Scadrian science has developed faster in cases like metallurgy (a similar 1800s Earth setting wouldn't have flat metal sheets to try indoor firepits - it would all be fieldstone fireplaces), but lags behind in other cases (such as radio and internal combusion engines).
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Therapy for Kids who are Afraid of People Club
Treamayne replied to Rabbit Unmade's topic in Social Groups, Clans, & Guilds
At restaurants, I made ordering the meal into a game - Can I place the order in such a way that the server has no questions to ask me? Typically, when ordering there is a bunch of back and forth (Soup or salad? What Dressing? Which sides? etc.) so by focusing on all of the possible questions they might ask, and by answering them up front I'm able to concentrate on the menu and the order rather than the fact that I have to talk to somebody. Example: Can I please have the Lasagna with roasted broccoli side, side salad, Italian dressing and unsweet tea - no ice - to drink I "win" every time the server walks away without asking me any follow-up questions. . . -
Click the "Eye" icon then type in the spoiler box Vin's earring was described as bronze with a light silver gild (mostly worn off), implied to have been on the "stud" not the "post."
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So, based on this broadsheet ad: Some friends at work and I were discussing possible Metalborn Professions for Era 3 and beyond. I thought we could all share some conjecture: Pulser: Nurse - Keep patients alive while waiting for a specialist/equipment/medicine, help families wait out that tricky surgery with less time worrying, etc. Subsumer: Culinary Scientist - testing food, designing product Gasper: Free Diver - Wrecks, recovery, pearl hunting, etc. Seeker: Casino Guard - watch for cheaters
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I'm specifically referenceing this section in Ch 36: For somebody like Marasi, who sees the legal system as generally good for teh people (despite its flaws) - though this and other interactions, I just had the impression that she was incompatible with "secret society" life.
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I felt some of the name drops-were too blatent (and frankly annoying). For example: Why actually say "Kaise" or the Arelish pronunciation of Shai's name? The brother/math reference was more than enough for the former, and the stamps were fairly conclusive for the latter (or would be speculation fodder on a different female Forger being involved). The bloody missing/extra Coinshot Spike (already debated in other threads). The lack of mention about the Noseball league in Allriandre's Epilogue. They even mention "a few holdbacks," that "Wayne set aside for other things" - would it be so hard to confirm the Noseball league here? I actually found it very beleivable. It's the same day as the events; tensions are high and she's still reeling from finding out that the GBs knew about the Set's plans in the works (at least some of it) and because they kept it to themselves a disaster nearly occured. I could have conceivably accepted a "let me sleep on it" stall measure - but to feel betrayed by a hero is crushing. I expect that's how she felt and was kind of surprised her response was as calm and rational as it was (as soon as she discovered they had data on where the Set was hiding and what they had been up to, I was already sure she would never join them).
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First you said "Seeker" - then copper. . . Did you mean bronze or did you mean Smoker? We do have this WoB:
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I don't think Siri would want that, and I doubt that Susebron would either. I don't think Siri would enjoy outliving her family and everyone she knows that isn't Returned. Especially if they come to know what was revealed in the Ch 55 annotations: So while I can see Vivenna wanting to outlive her past, and wander around learning to be herself; I would expect Siri and Susebron would want to govern and enact reform for a while, then retire together and finish their lives quietly together. The known sequel won't have them in it; though it may have a cameo or just information about what is happening with them. WoB:
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I would also imagine that, if Seons are Splinters in the same (or similar) manner that Spren are Splinters; then the Dor filling the Selish Shadesmar may be the root cause so many (all?) Seons are in the Physical Realm instead of Shadesmar. In fact, it may be why they can be in the Physcial Realm more fully than even a bonded Spren (and the Bonds they form with their chosen mortal may be a Selish Variant of the Nahel Bond, further allowing their PR presense).
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Are there any books/series you have not yet read? If not - you could easily see all known information on the Coppermind page Harmonium (Ettmetal) has no known uses yet because nobody could survive trying to ingest it. Otherwise, the Allomantic effects of the other Godmetals are unknown. Yes, the metal they knew in Era 1 as Atium was a Atium slightly tainted by Electrum. WoBs: (edited) So, we know that Preservation messed with the 16 metals as part of his long con to Preserve Scadrial. Cadmium and Bendalloy were replaced with Atium and Malatium (which allowed Allomancers to burn off Ruin's power), and Harmony fixed that when remaking the world. True Godmetals would be burnable by anybody (like Lerasium).
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I always took it as: If a spren is already interested in/following you then you might get access to Stormlight as the Nahel Bond forms but before swearing any ideals If you hope to become a Squire (to any order) and attract a spren (but do not already have one watching/following you) then you would need to express the first ideal through words or deeds to gain access to Stormlight
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Club for those who can't smell
Treamayne replied to The Wandering Wizard's topic in Social Groups, Clans, & Guilds
I wish. . . Closest I can recall is when I saw the allergist (way back in the 80s - I was 9-10ish) I reacted about 90 of the 108 samples tested. Environmental allergies? Check. Seasonal allergies? Check. Food allergies? Check. The easiest summary is nearly every plant pollen (trees, grasses, flowers - and things made from it like candles and perfume), the usual mold and dust, animal dander (cats are the worst, but I even have some reaction to my two GSDs and need to wash after touching them), shellfish, fish oil and some berry/seed oils (like strawberries, raspberrries, etc.) The weirdest is when I react to something like perfume or candles and I can't quite smell what's causing the reaction, but I can feel it in my eyes and sinuses. -
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Treamayne replied to Shining Silhouette's topic in Social Groups, Clans, & Guilds
Hello all. I'm technically a Seminole Irish German American (just American for short) who has lived in Korea and Japan and also travelled to about a dozen countries. I try to learn at least the greetings for each place I visit, as well as some food recipes for each country (Kabulli Palau. . . Mmmm). I've formally studied Spanish and Korean, self-studied Japanese, Tagalog and German (and some Tangential Chinese - but just reading and writing and mostly as Hanja and Kanji). From Wiktionary: Good call OtU. I'm a big fan of Garner's and other resources (like Wiktionary, Omniglot, and Ethnologue (before the paywall)) with connotative distinctions of synonyms, etymology and other linguistic nonsense. One of my prizes is an "Asian Super-dictionary" I purchased at Kyobomungo in Seoul, Korea in '99(ish). It's organized like a traditional Chinese dictionary (Radical and stroke count), but for each entry it has: Chinese Long Form Chinese Short Form Japanese/Korean forms if different than the above Bopomofo Pinyin Korean (Hangul) Japanese (Hiragana) English The definition is, of course, in Korean (so I often need my Kor-Eng dictionary to read this dictionary) Depending on mood, I most often just look up and name the first thing I see (sky, light fixture, airvent, ceiling tile, roof, etc.) Pronouns without antecedants are annoying, at best; but I think that gives the Listener license to interpret it how they want. I usually just think of a random McGuffin, then state it's means of locomotion as an aswer - if they didn't want to be understood, then I don't have to be either. . . -
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I beleive that a major character would have had that in the description, just as Dox's half-beard was repeatedly mentioned. I also beleive that, at least for the first book, TLR discouraged facial hair (see below), so facial hair was less common overall, and significantly less common within Luthadel. Breeze Ladrian was a noble afterall, and even after TLR fell, most nobles maintained the lack of facial hair (since it was considered unfashionable). TFE Ch 22 TFE Ch 24 WoA Ch 26 So, we can see that Breeze always stayed "fashionable," what was fashionable was larglety set by TLR, and after TLR fell, it was notable that King Venture bucked the still-stagnant fashion when he deicded to grow a beard. All of that said, if you want breeze to have a mustache in your head-cannon; I have no problem with that. It is simply not supported by the text (including the various Portraits of him in Era 2).
