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Do we even know how "recent" these depictions are meant to be? Safehands are, relatively speaking, a recent addition to Vorinism (popularized after the Recreance, and absorbed into the Culture over time since then). If these images are meant to have been created shortly after the Recreance, the "rules" might not have even fully developed - such that some early era interpretations of "Arts and Majesty" may have included "women in these professions cover their safehand" rather than "all women always cover their safehand." From the Coppermind:

It should make sense soon. I'm guessing you are asking rhetorically and don't really want spoilers. If you want a hint: I don't know that we have a definitive answer to that, I took it as an inadvertant attempt to not "appear alone" in chasing an unknown threat (maybe with a dab of illuminating the space while looking for whatever-it-was).

I always thought Raeth was an amalgam of the Idris Sisters from Warbreaker.(Spoilers) I'm not sure Mistborn or SA have a parallel to his character arc, though those stories also have borrowed elements from this work (spoilers)

Well, if you chart by Climax (small and large) you kind of get a reverse Sinus Rhythm (Plains > Plains > Kholinar (NW) > Theylaneah (S) > Urithiru (NW) > etc).

I took this to be a manifestation of his symptoms of depression (losing Syl), coupled with the pain of his injuries. if you look back at Way of Kings (ch 27) and compare that scene in the chasm with this scene - the difference that stands out to me the most is how when he was training (or fighting) he loses himself in the motions and techniques - no thought, just motion; action and reaction. When you look at the scene in the training grounds before the climax he can;t get out of his head, can't stop thinking about everything he has lost and that has gone wrong. No Zen. Well, to me, the big difference here is that there is a fundamental difference between being sought by a spren and becoming a squire, who is then found by the Spren that are watching squires. The former is a direct Connection because the Spren seeks <quality> and will find it in you so the Connection ripples forward to before you have met. The later is the Squire has already found a place and is learning to embody the oaths to which they have squired, and spren are evaluating their process on learning the role - but there is no "seeking" no "direct connection" that can ripple to before the person became a squire. And note that Lopen was the first Squire, so none of the others would have felt any repulsion from a burgeoning Bond at that point in WoR. I'm not sure he had generalized to that extent by the time of Amaram's betrayal. At least my impression was: Roshone taught Kaladin that some Light Eyes are not noble The nameless Lord that killed Tien "taught" Kaladin that, most likely, most light eyes weren't just "not noble" but callous of their "inferiors" Heleran (then unknown Red Shardbearer) taught Kaladin that probably most Light Eyes were callous and, if not evil, then selfish and apathetic of others (but some can still be Noble, like Amaram) Then Amaram taught Kaladin that all nobility in light eyes is a pretense (and it takes meeting and knowing Dalanar to learn that there are some that can be trusted) And all of this is really just an allegory showing how faulty it is to stereotype backward, or apply discrimination based on stereotypes. From an evolutionary standpoint, stereotyping is a part of humanity (if we didn't learn that the "red berry" might be poisonous and use that stereotype to be careful in the future, how many would have died) - but the problem now is that instead of saying "Some of X may be Y - be careful" we tend to think "You are X and therefore you must be Y - because of <stereotype>" Stereotypes exist, but no single person is a stereotype. Each individual should be, as Dr. King put it, "judged . . . by the content of their character."

Welcome to the Forums. You may want to consider noting here, or in your profile, if there are any Cosmere works you have not yet read, so we can spoiler appropriately. Here are some tips and tricks you may not yet be aware are available: Certainly plausible. We know from Elantris that a Shardpool can survive the Splintering if its shard. Painter found it odd, but it was explained for the reader - she was wet for the same reason that she could change her clothes (or don and doff them) because she was invested enough that she was manipulating how her Cognitive Shadow looks. Just as Drifter quips at Kelsier in Secret History - that as a CS his clothes don't really exist - they are just a manifestation of how he sees himself. Well, she saw herself as being wet because she went into the pool - so when she exited the pool, voila, wet. Shardblade condensation, on the other hand, is specifically a manifestation of the three states. If you don't know Brandon has said that one of the fundamentals of the Cosmere is that, where our world has Matter and Energy are really the same thing [e=mc^2], in the Cosmere there is a third state - Investiture. Since matter, energy and investiture are all "the same" they can each convert into another. The part that pertains is that any time Investiture condesnses into a Solid state of Matter in the physical realm, condensation will be the result (not just Shardblades - see also the chill in the air when Kaladin says his second and third oath, the glowing condensate in the shape of the windrunner glyph, to a lesser extent - the water that condenses on objects while the Mists are out on Scadrial) which is all really just how humidity and dewpoint function IRL based on the temperature that investiture solidifies into when manifesting in the Physical realm. Also note that Painter could see the water on her, but could not feel it - because it wasn't really there. Yumi thought she should be wet, so she was wet (foreshadowing for the ending). Of course she's highly invested, she is (likely) a splinter of Virtuosity. Though we also have this WoB: But this seems more a factor of what happened when the Yoki-hijo were turned into Cognitive Shadows by the Father Machine, then spent a millenia pacticing their art. I doubt she is using anything like a Lashing, or the rocks would topple and fall before she was finished, since she spends hours just on the stacking alone. To me, this is more an extreme extension of skill mastery. Colloquial belief is that "10,000 X to master Y" (hours of practice, repetitions of a task, etc) based on how long it takes to develope instinctual muscle memory (the IRL truth or refutation is irrelevant - just referencing a theory) - now image that Yumi has 1700 years of exceding this each year. As Brandon said, she is by-far the best at the skill of rock stacking to have ever existed in the Cosmere. . . That's what it did, most of the souls trapped in the Shroud were under its control. The Yoki-hijo broke free of that control based on their nature and will so the "prisons" were set up to fool them into thinking life was normal. Hope that helps.

True. I think the point Brandon was trying to make, though, is that the questioner was implying Magical Assistance to his ability. Brandon was saying - no, it's not magic or proto-Radiance, he's just a really gifted fighter.

Well, not really when he started: He did get beat down the first time he touched a spear in the flashbacks He was incomptent in the flashback leading to his witnessing Tien's death Then he responded that by vowing "nobody would die because he was bad at fighting" and spent every day training all day long whenever he wasn't doing some other task (shown in the WoR "flashback") But, yes, once he committed to learning and practicing, he was the equivilent of a high school senior first-round draft pick (or, if you prefer, High School senior that makes an Olympic team).

Good catch, thanks. If I am following: a similar (lowercase) oath pact binding the Nahel Bond to Oaths, but not a part of the original (big O) Oathpact. I knew the first Nahel bods caught everybody off guard - for some reason I just thought binding the Oathpact included binding the Nahel Bond to oaths.

Part of this equation is which cities. I know you gave Boston as an example, but what I mean is compare: Hurricane Katrina - a Cat 5 Hurricane that was (high) Cat 3 when making (second) landfall caused about 1400 fatalities and over 97 billion in damages to the affected gulf region Typhoon Sinlaku - a Cat 5 Typhoon that was a (high) Cat 3 when making landfall over the RyuKyu islands (Okinawa) and continuing to Taiwan and China caused zero deaths in Okinawa, two deaths in Taiwan and 28 in China; as well as about 14 million in damage to Okinawa and another 709 million in damage in China. Of course, comparisons have so many contributing metrics - but (having been in Okinawa for Sinlaku), to me the biggest factor is because that region of the Pacific builds for these types of storms (for example, near Kadena - on and off base - almost all buildings are rebar reinforced concrete), and the gulf learned the hard way what failing to build to storm specifications can cause (though New Orleans has other factors, like being below sea level). If "cheap" storm shelters like the bridgemen barracks were not ripped apart, then I think modern Storm Specification built concrete structures would survive**. High rise buildings will have a bad time of it, not to mention any places vulnerable to flooding. TLDR: I guess my point is that you can't really generalize to "any Earth city" or even "any port city" and get meaningful data. It's better to say X environment would likely suffer y results from such a storm. Edit Note: Forgot my asterisk anecdote from above:

This is what I was describing above. If you go to the Arcanum and keyword search Vasher (145 results) then filter "world" (17 results) or "shadesmar" (3) results you can find this WoB: It's from other information and WoBs that we find out the "places in Shadesmar" is Silverlight: Also, on the timeline: (the link shows how things shifted since the first WoB is 2012 and the last is 2020) Hope that helps.

Welsome to the Forums, Here are some tips and tricks you may not yet know (if you do, please ignore) Also, do you know how to access and quote Words of Brandon? Interesting Theory. Also, can you please confirm what, if any, cosmere books you have/have not read (whichever list is shorter) just so we can be spoiler-appropriate. It's a BLUF when it comes before the text, and a TLDR when it comes at the end. . . Semantics, but I thought I would mention it in case you care about that kind of trivia. Keep in mind that with one exception (Sel Spoiler below), you do not have to be on a Shard's primary Shardworld to access their investiture. Vasher and Shashara accidentally mixed Ruin's investiture with the Breaths due to their chosen command "Destroy Evil." Since the Spiritual Realm has neither Location nor Time; that command with Intent was enough to mix some Ruin with the Endowment used in the breaths. Nightblood could have been on Scadrial at some point, but they would not have to have visited Scadrial to have Ruin's investiture. We do not yet know where Nightblood's awakening occurs in relation to the Catacendre - but current estimates would put it before Ruin's release from the Well. Roughly - We know the events of Alloy of Law are after SA5 and that AoL is 341 yrs post Catacendre. Szeth would have received Nightblood from Nale at least 3 yrs before that (based on SA time gaps), and we know Nightblood was on Roshar before Dalinar went to see the Nightwatcher (+7 yrs). We also know that Vasher has been on Roshar since well before Adolin began training with the sword (+20 yrs) and we know (based on last data - subject to change) that there is about 100 yrs between Warbreaker and Way of Kings (roughly +80yrs) and that the Manywar, when Nightblood was created was at least 300 yrs before the events of Warbreaker. So, rough math means Nightblood was created about 410 yrs before Alloy of Law - or 50 yrs Pre-Catacendre. So, I would say the theory is possible, but not probable - based on current information. On the "support" side we know that Vasher has only been on Nalthis and Roshar (and Silverlight, but that's not a planet, much less a Shardworld) and Nightblood has been to more than two Shardworlds. . . so where did they go that Vasher did not?

I'm pretty sure we already have this answer. Honor forged the Ten Honorblades and paired the surges based on how they resonate with each other. Sapient Spren wanted to mimic the Honorblades and came to embody those surge pairings based on their resonance with the surge pair. So: Honorblades > led to Heralds > led to ProtoRadiants and the Oathpact (which bound the heralds and the expression of surges by Nahel Bond) > led to Surgebinders solo > led to Organized Knights Radiant (without Herald sponsorship) > led to The Ten Orders of Knights Radiant

Thank you for explaining my point better than I ever could have.

Interesting theory, and certainly plausible. Also consider: Hemalurgic Bind points are loosly based on Meridians (acupuncture, acupressure, etc.) Hemalurgy can interact with magic systems other than Allomancy and Feruchemy To include innate investiture that is not associated with a magic system Bind Points are may not be 1 power : 1 location, as we see H-Steel used in more than one bind point in Inquisitors

Here are the references: Color probably changes slighly depending on sunlight vs light from gems. . .

Or more fun. I took it to be more of "stone ground is "ondol" now" as opposed to "Raised clogs or you will lose a limb" hot. PPS: Also out of rep for the day. . .

YNP Epilogue 2:

I apologize for misinterpreting your post. The perceived tone was "this is the only valid interpretation of Yumi's character arc" rather than "this is my interpretation of Yumi's character arc."

Can we please just agree that subjective material is . . . subjective. I understand how you arrived at your conclusions. I did not arrive at those conclusions when I read the book. Also as previously mentioned, it is possible that my opinion will change when I reread YNP, Until then, just please accept that I was never trying to "convert" anybody's opinion - I was simply explaining how and why I came to the conclusions I did.

Right. I took that to mean their Cognitive Self (an application of identity) became discorporated - but it could not have been separated from the rest of their Spiritweb in the SR or Painter's Climax fails. I took his painting of them as the people they actually had been to be reconnecting their Cognitive Identity to their Spiritual Identity. That allowed their discorparated Cognitive Self to reform from the Shroud (as seen) So, I can agree that the Cognitive Identity was broken down and incorporated into the Shroud, the part I do not agree with is that their Spiritweb lost its Identity. I hope that makes sense to somebody besides me. . .

Precisely please see my comments on this thread:

My apologies, critical failure of humor by exaggeration. That said, I do think most people underestimate the consequences of the terms of service for most platforms. This isn't the place for that dsicussion, however.

Thanks for the reference, though I will note that the RoW Epigraph specifically uses "Or" because a CS needs a connection to either Physical or Spiritual (but can be both). Mistborn, Threnody Spoilers:

For what its worth, here are the references: Not that it matters much, since using Cosmere curses is storming fun.