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@alder24 gave the post link. I actually have two versions of this now - the one in the post was made for reading physical books (slotting an entire SH chapter in the most analagous location) - but I then also created what I call The Complete Era 1 epub - where I further broke down those SH chapters that span more than one WoA or HoA chapter and put the appropriate scenes directly into the correct place in the Trilogy (example shown on linked thread). I could/should probably write that up as well, showing where each scene slotted. Example:

Yes, I know. His theory was that the medallion was nothing but Nicrosil but still granting whatever ability and only using metalminds that were not a part of the medallion. That's my point. Everybody seems to think the same way you do - expecting that M-Nicrosil works like F-Nicrosil (which we also know almost nothing about) when we have already been told they are similar, but not the same. I'm merely pointing out that the idea that the Nicrosil in a Medallion "stores" the "Firesoul-ness" is an assumption. We don't know enough - but we do know that at the current level of tech the medallions require that the second (third, etc.) metal be present. I was postulating why that would be - and it seems to me that the most likely (Occam's razor) reason is that the M-Nicrosil is Unsealed "access to Feruchemy" and the Manifestation of that is based on Connection to the other metal(s) in the medallion. It is unlikely that you could have the Nicrosil in a double-ability Unsealed Metalmind storing both "Skimmer-ness" and "Firesoul-ness" (conflict issues - the same reason you cannot store both sight and hearing in the same Tinmind). But if the Nicrosil was "Access to Ferchemy" and the other metals in the medallion provide that manifestation - it fits the currently known facts. Edit Note: We still have the unknown Excisor that factors in somehow - possibly excising the Metal and Identity Connections from a Nicrosil storage to make the Unsealed Nicrosil. However, it is just-as-likely to be some kind of Medallion Hemalurgy that's "Excising" the "Skimmer-ness" from the "donor" to store in the medallion (or any other number of possible theories. . . )

They weren't trying to say that "Medallion without Nicrosil," they were trying to say "Medallion of only Nicrosil" as if you could store, for example, being a Firesoul in the nicrosil and use just any Brassmind without having brass be part of the medallion. But, from what we know so far, it does not work like that. Nicrosil stores "being a ferring" and the connected ring(s) of another metal(s) determine what type of ferring ability(ies) are available to the Unsealed Metalmind.

I think that either assumes a stationary/unconcious target or a level of skill unseen by anybody thus far. For example, it takes Kenton (the most skilled Sand master with a single ribbon in precision and speed), who can reliably hit 2 dozen Lak (presumably about 1" diameter, based on the images in the omnibus) on the fly with his one ribbon multiple tries to strike the Ka'Rak in the sword wound to get passed the Terken carapace. A hemalurgic bind point is a target less than the 1/4 that size and missing by fractions of an inch changes the result or fails altogether - the chances of hitting a 1/8 inch spot (or smaller) on a moving target with a sand-wielded spike - especially when those bind-points are biogically derived, and therefore not a direct correlation person to person seems. . . rather slim. So, finding and hitting a point the size of a pencil eraser (or smaller) on a clothed and moving target would take a very specialized set of skills and is still likely to be unreliable at best.

I think I fixed that correctly. I also think you are not understanding because this exact question has already been answered thrice. So, please let me know if this helps: for convenience - this is a false assumption, the attached metalmind is required to give f-nicrosil - this is also a false assumption. The Unsealed Metalmind isn't granting the ability to tap Nicrosil - the Nicrosil is acting as a bridge so that the Unsealed Metalmind gives the ability to tap/store the Connected Metal's power. Unkeyed Metalminds are metalminds created with no identity so that anybody with the appropriate power can use the metalmind and any storage within that metalmind Unsealed Metalminds are a Metalmind using a Nicrosil bridge so that anybody (Metalborn or not) can use that Metalmind. Allik even says that they specifically have Unsealed metalminds that grant two abilities, sometimes three (but they have not been able to make four powers work) The Nicrosil is only allowing the person using the metalmind to act as a Feruchemist, the connected metal ring(s) determine what ability(ies) are granted If you had a Nicrosil Mind only, it could only act as a storage for Nicrosil - not a storage for anything-at-all (at least not with the current level of Scadrian technology and understanding) BoM Ch 21 Hope that helps

Welcome to the Forums Check out the Ambition article at the Coppermind, it's annotated and each source is linked. I would imagine these are the sources you are asking for:

I feel like things like Mistings would be more of a measure of how much investiture is being channeled - e. g. (numbers total fabrication for the example) Regular Pewter burn is channelling 5 BEU per minute, light burning is only channelling 2 BEU per minute, Flaring is up to 10 BEU per minute. A Duralumin burn would have to be calcualted by the amount of Pewter available (and possibly how much Duralumin is also available - assuming some limitation like 1 mg duralumin will convert 1g pewter all at once). I know we never saw Vin or anybody test if any small amount of Duralumin would effect a very large source of metal - but I also find it hard to beleive that a single flake of duralumin would expend an entire bag of pewter (as they used when pewter dragging).

This quote? (Ch 45) Duh me. I knew of the quote, but wasn't thinking of the "atmosphere" as "something" - since it was focusing on objects in the quote. . . Still begs the question of how close to the "core" you have to be to complete a circuit, since his "city" was scraping the top of the mountain - so atmosphere or not, there was "something" between the sunlight and the surface. So, atmosphere is involved - or some other factor of proximity should be required.

My apologies for misunderstanding. It seemed like you found more faults than enjoyment, based on the conversation thus far. It's understandable to want to know more about a world we love, and it's sad that some of the projects that may have added some of these details (like Birthright - which IIRC was planned to happen early in Rashek's reign - 2d century or so) fell through. That said, your vision of Ruin is fundamentally against most of the rest of the details for the Cosmere. If you are planning to continue with the Cosmere, you may want to consider some of the many reading order threads to make sure you are not self-spoiling (if you care about that type of thing). Most of the worlds in the Cosmere are internally consistent, but there are some . . . interconnections that may be important for either spoiler reasons or for making sense of the building Realmatics that involve why things in the Cosmere are the way they are.

I feel like we can't really explain well without spoilers, and you can't give the situation context until you have read more of the Cosmere. Basically, it comes down to this: Scadrial is only one facet of what is going on, and Preservation/Ruin are less than 13% of the forces at work. There is a larger picture and most of what you think of as flaws (and you are totally allowed to view them as such) are really foreshadowing and hints at the larger picture. These things are this way for a reason, not just "because the story needs X." I'm sorry you didn't enjoy Mistborn Era 1. I do hope you continue to read the Cosmere, enjoy the stories and eventually get to see how these pieces fit in the larger picture.

This implies that investiture/power is flowing from the sun (light) toward the planet/core. However, the scene with Nomad unaffected by light above the mountain peak would imply that the "completed circuit" is power flowing from the planetary core, not into the planet.

Well, he sacrificed his mind for the sake of his duty to his people, voluntarily taking dullform to become a spy - which landed him in the Bridge Crews. He could have given away a ton of intel to get out of carrying bridges, and did not. He stayed true to Kaladin and Bridge 4, even when they were forced to break his cultural taboos about the dead in order to save lives and for kaladin to keep his word. He kept faith with them after departing to return to Narak - then returned to them with news and warnings about Stormform. Not sure, what do you think?

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Please do not Necro threads, it is against policy. In this case you would have been better served starting a new thread to update based on material since the last post 31 Oct 2019.

Please spoiler tag the SP3 references while that book is still in its spoiler period.

Possible - in a few centuries (maybe). In the short term, we already have eveidence that this kind of change would not happen quickly, as the Fjordell Empire has "conquered" both JinDo and Hrovell - both of which are shown to still have their lands' own Manifestation of Investiture (ChayShan and <unnamed Potion art>) - rather than adopting Dakhor (the Manifestation tied to the Fjordell land). I would guess that it would have to be long enough for the national identity to be tied to the new "leaders" and for the peoples to abandon their previous native language to become tied to the Identity of the conquering land/people/culture.

Please do not Necro threads, it is against policy. In this case you would have been better served starting a new thread to update based on material since the last post 21 Aug 2020. This thread is three years old (Aug 2020) and predates Rhythm of War (other than some preview material they referenced) - so Wit was not Radiant. He had barely rescued Design from Kholinar with the potential of a Bond in the Epilogue.

Thiis is a false correlation - it doesn't have anything to do with anthropomorphication. TES Spoilers; Unless you are specifically only referencing lesser spren (rainspren, flamespren) in which case they were created by Adonalsium that way. Human perception had some influence on Higher Spren (Honorspren, Ashspren) - but even that isn't about Human perception or anthropomorphication of an object so much as it is ideas about how the surges are viewed and which traits are associated with which surge (Lightspren (Reachers) grant the surge of Cohesion because both Light and Strong Axial Forces are associated with thoughs of freedom and reduction of constraints).

The answer is almost entirely dependant on other factors - the Command that Awakened the Lifeless, the Command visualization, which breath was used to awaken the Lifeless**, etc. WoBs and such:

Right, but I also did not say "need" - I said even though they might not have needed it, does not rule out that they had access to one (possibly Leras) and used it.

I would not rule this out. Even though we know the they worked together to create Scadrial does not mean they didn't use one of the Dawnshards to help accomplish that feat. Though I would concur that it is unlikely that the Dawnshard remained on Scadrial after it's creation. . .

Further WoBs: There aren;t many WoB's that use Whimsy by-name - so it may be an oblique reference?

This one?

Since the best Antagonist is a Dead Antagonist - I'd say Sadeas. . .

Welcome to the Forums. Here's some tips and tricks with which you may not yet be aware: It would be about 1500 - since heightenings aren't really about the numbers of breath - but about quantity of investiture. The Divine breath doesn't propel a returned to Fifth heightening because it is 2000 breaths - it propels to Fifth Heightening because each Divine Breath is a Sliver of Endowment and a huge amount investiture by itself - so much that it takes at least 2000 breaths to equal 1 Divine Breath. So, to hold enough investiture to reach the Sixth Heighteneing a Returned would need around 1500 normal breaths in addition to the Divine Breath. The reason the Upper heightenings have mostly been experienced by Returned is because they need about 2000 less than a normal person to reach the same level of Investiture saturation. Special Projects, if you have not read them yet, may help clarify this some.