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@Kasimir If I somehow am not NK #1 I'll have to respond to this D2, I desperately need a nap after a very stressful morning =/ Hey yo elims plz don't kill me if you want to see Striker and I do some really cool and funny JoJo RP, I promise I won't get any more of you killed D2 if you spare me <3
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Oh, you know. Getting voted by elims. Voting out elims. The usual.
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I am content with this turn of events Knowing me tho I'll start panicking about e!Mat again in the middle of the night once the euphoria of no longer being tunneled vanishes Or I'm going to start questioning how easily e!JNV has pocketed me (I've been pocketed in two MU games very recently and you'd think I'd have learned by now) But nah, TUN/TJ both voting me now fits as a team with how C4 played out. TJ said he would be down to vote TUN (for distancing) but instead went for Xino, then went for me (when it seemed like there was a good opportunity to get rid of me). Plus TJ still hasn't voted TUN today while saying TUN is in his PoE so... I have to trust my gut when I say this feels right. ED1T: Also, same
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Me? Like gambits? TBF to Mat (who I suspect for completely separate reasons), Experience did claim Teoish in the same post he claimed Disruptor. TBLF to Mat, I'm surprised he just chalked it up to "I know they like their gambits" and not "Experience claimed to be the same Empire as Aman before my post." But yeah, if I live to D2 y'all already know where my vote is going regardless Thaid proved it by retroactively dying (RIP Thaid) and I was right about Archer so... Gotta see if I was 1/3 or 2/3, y'know
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Because in that sentence I'm referring to a partner writing off E!Orlok for voting E!Bort, hence a bus Honestly just sleep on it and follow your heart tomorrow. If you vote me then I won't hold it against you (unless you are the elim and you're toying with me, in which case I will never let you fool me again :P). But tbh, perfectly fine with a coin flip, if you don't feel comfortable making the decision yourself. Game shouldn't end when I die so I just hope that whatever Villagers survive into C6 make the right call going forward. I have the utmost faith in our ability to solve. And I hope my death can be a testament to my stance on how paranoia ultimately hurts the village more than it does the elims. ED1T: (2) Amanuensis: |TJ|, The Unknown Novel, (2) The Unknown Novel: JNV, Amanuensis, (1) Sleep: Matrim's Dice,
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That's perfectly fair Kas, I could be wrong about Bort and you could be right. That is a very consistent trend you've pointed out and I am considering it. Ultimately, I think the best thing we can do is @Bort and ask; hey man, what do you think about the game now that Archer got flipped elim D1? ED1T: But yeah, also, 100% agree with the "I'd rather die right and lose than live right and ignored" mentality I feel that in my bones <3
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My last team list was: So assuming v!Mat, e!TJ world, I would just need to swap out your names to make: TJ TUN TJ/TUN Orlok TJ/Orlok TUN/Orlok Which again just brings me back to my first post today where I voted TJ to begin with E!Orlok feels like a hail mary, do-or-die kind of reality at this point where somehow we're all village or his partner is writing him off for the Bort bus. I can definitely see Orlok paired with both TJ and TUN (neither have ever voted Orlok) and less so with you for voting Orlok with Stick on C3 (though you are writing him off for the Bort bus :P) So unless the pair is TJ/TUN, our best chance is voting right between TJ and TUN. Orlok may get filter killed anyway so if the game doesn't straight up end, then we'd know the other has to be an elim whether we are right or wrong. I will say, I feel TJ has more Village credence than TUN at this juncture, given the fact TJ completely stayed away from the Bort yeet (while TUN could do nothing to save both Araris and Bort due to inactivity). So right now, I do prefer voting TUN first between the two of them, but have no good reason to believe either is Village enough to not believe it's both of them. I also want to point out the irony that when JNV was voting TJ you weren't on board, but now that JNV is voting TUN you're voting TJ I have to assume that means you're a Villager reevaluating and panicking like me but today's voting feels like some kind of complicated riverdance and Kasimir's not-writeup seems suddenly prophetic xD ED1T: (2) Amanuensis: |TJ|, The Unknown Novel, (2) The Unknown Novel: JNV, Amanuensis, (1) |TJ|: Matrim's Dice, @Matrim's Dice the biggest problem rn is that Orlok is inactive and JNV has said they might not be able to get on before EoD. I also might not be online at EoD given my current schedule, so we kind of need to consolidate our votes. I will definitely try, but I can't make any promises given IRL circumstances, so basically... I can be convinced to switch to TJ, but without Orlok voting or a guarantee of JNV being able to get on and vote TJ too, this will result in another random execution. And it does appear that TJ/TUN are voting together on me, which probably suggests they are indeed paired, and therefore it doesn't matter which one we vote first.
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Hey shadow how's life you enjoying the game so far? Oh, and do you think Archer inquiring about Kas knowing your gender means: A: there's an elim in your doc and he knew you two were in the same Empire but wanted to make it seem like he didn't, or B: there's no elim in your doc and no elim in another doc and he was fishing for information that could tie Kas/you together You obviously don't have to mention who's in your doc or anything, BUT I'd seriously like you/Kas to consider the implications and judge the other members of your Empire with this interaction in mind, since it might be a good lead to finding another elim.
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TUN I'm basically right back to where I was yesterday Mat/TJ probably Village based on how indecisive they're being (elim would have no reason to fake this unless they are solo). So even if one of them is tricking me rn, my death doesn't even matter because Village can still win C6 or C7. Will say if they're both Village then I reserve the right to make fun of them for nearly voting out v!Aman with zero elim influence TUN has acknowledged things that make me village but has also hedged by vaguely saying I've done "elimmy" things which at this point I have to believe is an elim going with the most convenient narrative that doesn't get him voted out today (riding off v!Mat and v!TJ nearly voting me out yesterday) I still think Orlok could be a semi-active busser, but I just realized he might get filter killed anyway. If he does post by the end of today and lives until C6, please do not clear him just for leading the votes on Bort. I seriously felt that entire push was off and Orlok being an elim could explain a lot of the confusion we're experiencing rn. JNV lock town no one can change my mind otherwise >:(
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What do you mean? Aren't Baker's thoughts clear? Obviously, this image represents Baker openly claiming to be an elim. The three slices of bread on the left symbolize Archer, himself, and their mysterious third teammate. The knife on the right symbolizes what Baker is going to use to stab me tonight.
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RIP Kas and other suffering players Please keep your head warm ThreadGMBro ED1T: @|TJ| If you're Village like I hope, what do you think? Join Mat on TUN or me? Join JNV on Mat? Join me on Orlok? Orlok/TUN/Mat are my PoE atm so they are the only players I'm willing to vote today, fullstop. Otherwise, I'm content to bow out and let y'all figure out this mess in C6. The sweet release of death sounds really nice rn but I'd still prefer a Village victory
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Anyone else getting flipless MR56 vibes rn? I feel like I'm going crazy @Kasimir I hope you're entertained >:(
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Oh cool, I'm not the only one then. Like yeah, it's basically the way he followed it up. I wasn't a big fan of the OMGUS vote on you but, Villagers absolutely do that kind of thing frequently, especially D1. However, there was an inherently different feeling I got from his responses - what I referred to as "carefree confidence," for lack of a better term. It didn't feel as... explicitly designed as Bort's MR57 posts, if that makes sense? In that game, I sensed more of a reluctance / defensiveness. In this one it's more of like, a "y'all actually sussing me for this? lol" kinda feel? Don't know how to articulate it properly since this is more of a Soul Read than an analysis read but, empath powers activate ED1T: That said, while my Soul Reads are often accurate, I Soul Read shadow1 in the game we played recently from her first/second posts and she turned out to be an elim so... no, I'm not 100% saying Bort is Village. He should definitely be considered in the future if more elimmy things come up, but I stand by the conviction that what he did D1 was not specifically elimmy, and I'm side-eyeing players like Mat that voted him :eyes:
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IMO TUN saying I have micro villager moments and micro elim moments is kind of how I feel about him, which is the ironic part xD like a few things he said gave me the impression he's seriously considered me being Village, but the fact he's pushing JNV/me is what I expect an elim to want right now, so I don't know how I can trust he's got the village's intentions in mind Which is kind of why I am voting Orlok right now. I'm back to feeling like everyone talking is more Village than the person not talking, and he is in my PoE anyway so why not? The problem is I'm not sold on you being village after tunneling me for so long, so every proposal you make inherently makes me want to do the opposite xD I kinda wish Araris didn't get voted D1 and the fang went through tbh, I feel like everything has been utter chaos since xD
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Please check the post where I talked about my Bort and Devo feelings <3 I understand where you suspect Bort logically after MR57, but I also tonally read him as Village this game compared to that one. I guess I could be wrong and I do believe you tunneling this could be coming from a V!perspective, but I also just don't agree with you in this case. I don't feel like Bort is the same and am willing to give him more time to prove himself I also do agree that Devo's stance on Experience was unusually rigid; I had said as much in my doc. But I also would like to give Devo a chance in case it's just a playstyle difference. That said, I also think there is other evidence to suggest e!Devo that should be looked at more, like Archer self-prezing on Thaid, who he earlier argued was NAI, over Devo, and the fact he pseudo defended Devo ED1T: @Kasimir also yes, I don't agree with Experiences specific conclusions from my own experience (heh) and instincts. I can discuss them more if you want. I'm always happy to discuss stuff
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Gah. I'm sorry, but I'm serious that I would rather get voted out myself than compromise on voting out someone that I read as Village. I can accept losing and I can accept being wrong about JNV if you are right, but I will never vote a player I believe is Village just to save myself. It's selfish to do that and I would rather die being right and lose than live being right but caving on my convictions and still lose. Knowing that the elim win con is overparity, I don't really care about fighting to live anymore. I just hope that the Village can pull out the win despite the odds tomorrow, and will have to trust that removing the Aman paranoia from the equation will be enough to get people on the right track again. I firmly believe in the last elim / last two elims being in my poe. I know confirmed good isn't confirmed right, but seriously take my beliefs into account when I'm dead. In a solo elim world, TJ could technically still be the elim; he might be claiming to be indecisive in order to get either Mat or me voted tomorrow after V/V thunderdoming all day. He could even be on a team with Orlok since he notified him for help in deciding which side of ours to take. Just please do not vote JNV tomorrow >:( he is tonally as obv!Town as Xino was D1 imo and I have to trust my gut on him.
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Oops sorry I will get on my computer in a bit, currently making dinner.
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I've been paranoid of Orlok since C3 and even told Stick before Bort flipped that his case on Bort looked pre-planned, which led me to believe Orlok's intention with it was to pull a QF59. He's been active enough to submit kills but not active enough to respond to any of the questions I've asked him, which naturally makes me think he is dodging me on purpose. I would not be surprised if he's hoping for villager paranoia to get me removed from the game. Plus, Orlok works on a team with you Mat, who no one else but JNV is willing to vote over me (you all can't be elims), plus Orlok works on a team with TUN (who I've also had in my poe for ages), plus Orlok works as a solo elim. What is my goal? The same goal it's always been; to vote out the elims. And right now I don't know what else to believe. If you, TJ, JNV, and I are all Village, then it just has to be Orlok/TUN. And I really doubt JNV or TJ are elims, so no, I'm not going to vote there today. I would rather get voted out myself than compromise on voting players I believe are Village. <Orlok, TUN, Mat> is my poe today and that's final. If y'all want to vote out JNV because you think they're partnered with me, then I will neither participate, nor will I stop you. Maybe they have pocketed me but they seem to be the only person listening to me and when everyone else is against me then I don't even care if it's a pocket.
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If it really is TUN/Orlok I reserve the right to say I told you so when the game is over xD
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In the off chance that literally everyone who has posted today is village, I'm willing to vote Orlok instead. I still think he could have bussed Bort and nothing he's done since then has led me to believe otherwise.
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Tbh I kinda feel like Araris/Kas were being a lil too hard on Bort. I understand why given MR57, but at the same time, I believe the fact it carried over into this game could just be a matter of recency over alignment. I feel that Bort has a somewhat more noticeable carefree confidence in this game that he lacked in MR57? Like I get the impression he believes what he's saying this time versus making excuses. That said, Araris is probably Villager too because I can see him latching onto Bort for the reasons he described. I also harbor paranoia that Kas was being too rigid in his Bort tunnel for V!Kas and that Archer could have very well given Kas permission to bus him, given how quickly I called Archer out for voting me + the fact I was suspecting Kas in our doc. So... yeah. I wish I could 100% clear Kas for this but after QF59 I respect him way too much for that xD yay paranoia! Devo could still be an elim tho ngl, I also said in my doc that I kinda felt like she was off in the same way I felt she was off in MR57. Since this game doesn't have Serial Killers, I can presume that means she's an elim, and there is sufficient evidence to point to her being tied with Archer - especially if Devo has a role and Archer was deemed the better sacrifice. Devo flipping elim would probably clear Kas in my mind because he would actually have to be kayana to gun for a teammate with a power role because of a fake elim claim that Archer should have warned them both about. So tbh, not wholly opposed to a Dakhor Monk shooting Devo on N3. I'd say tonight but meh, I would prefer giving Devo a chance if she is a Villager. I don't believe any Dakhor should kill anyone tonight. Otherwise I kinda wonder if Mat's stubborn opinion was affected by Archer's pro Empire reveal opinion. Like @Kasimir you like to do those fancy sigma groupings or whatever where you group people based on things they support and then analyzed who the most likely elim in each grouping is, yeah? What do you think the odds are of Mat doing a kind of pseudo distancing thing by taking the opposite stance of Archer without having a particularly good reason for it, just to make it seem like they weren't both pushing elim agenda? ED1T: Oof wait I'm confused. @Kasimir what's wrong I don't understand this response rn
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Btw no matter what alignment Experience is, I'm loving his content so far. I believe this is the most involved I've seen him in a game and I'm a big fan. Keep it up
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I did fix the vote with an edit. RIP mobile posting. I should get out of bed
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@|TJ| am I crazy bro or what It's like Mat isn't even reading the same game I have been on e!Mat over e!TJ since before JNV even posted. JNV has been supporting you and suspecting TJ while I have been doing the exact opposite. Unlike you, TJ still has you in his PoE, as well as TUN. That shows villager open mindedness to me. Meanwhile you just keep saying me/JNV and I know that's incorrect so being close minded at this juncture has to just be elim agenda. I'm done engaging on this. I'm currently in the lead and that's fine. We are at an impasse and town can still win tomorrow with or without me, but I'm assuming that means it’ll come down to RNG so I guess let's hope that RNG favors the village. And yes I'm not a Veteran. It was a bluff.
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Mat by the time JNV started going after TJ, I was already voting you We do not make sense as an E/E pair. We would not have such different beliefs about who the elim is. I really feel like you are just an elim throwing whatever you can at the wall right now to see what sticks and what villagers you can convince And what do you mean this game will end when elims outnumber villagers? Why the heck is it not parity?? @Kasimiris that true??? If that's actually true then indecision over. Matrim. We can still figure this out tomorrow in a 2!elim!world. Nothing else makes sense given the information I have right now barring an Orlok/TUN team. Although I have no idea how overparity works in a game with thugs and no vote manipulation.
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