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Illwei gives me more mixed signals than T-Mobile.
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Anyway, Illwei is basically right, even if tonally in the wrong. The sheer volume of posts Kas and I (mostly I) have been producing does have potentially detrimental effects on the game that I didn't consider beyond making Orlok's job 500x harder. Ultimately the issue is we've had more available time, live in time zones where almost no one else is around when we're most active, don't have PMs to bounce ideas off each other in, and are playing a game with so little information and too many possibilities. Personally, I still don't love PMs. I would rather my braindumps happen in a public space where everyone can read and weigh in on them appropriately. But I can see it being overwhelming, and I do apologize. Enough to gladly accept a Pinch-Hitter, if anyone is available. It's been fun <3
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All Epics = Village =/= All Village = Epics Was considering the former, not the latter. I do not consider Regular as a non-Epic role in that regard (or a role at all). I doubt there are "Regular" Corrupted Epics period.
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In my defense I was really banking on getting NK'd last night sorry everyone <3
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I am a Regular Reckoner, hence my hard confirming TUA for his post. The post you're probably referring to was half me playing around, half me trying to provide an excuse for what I ultimately deemed an unfair way to Village confirm someone. It happened and I can't change it and I won't pretend like I don't know TUA is Village, but I also didn't feel good about people V!Reading myself or him for that interaction.
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Can't believe I forgot to welcome Bort back too. Welcome back Bort!
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10/10 reference, I heckin love Dark. Honestly, I don't even want to waste any more time thinking about what it's meant to do. All of it is based on what Archer has told us, and he's not been very forthcoming with the information. I want to just see his role in tomorrow's write-up, know with absolute certainty that the role he claims is true or not, and move on with our lives. The game cannot be solved until we all have 100% verified proof that alignment flips can be turned on. Until then we're wasting time going down a million rabbit holes trying to figure out what the heck this game is. In case it was missed.
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Welcome to the insanity ED1T: Honestly, I don't even want to waste any more time thinking about what it's meant to do. All of it is based on what Archer has told us, and he's not been very forthcoming with the information. I want to just see his role in tomorrow's write-up, know with absolute certainty that the role he claims is true or not, and move on with our lives. The game cannot be solved until we all have 100% verified proof that alignment flips can be turned on. Until then we're wasting time going down a million rabbit holes trying to figure out what the heck this game is.
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Look at how C1 ended up and C2 I've been the main driving force of every exe so far, for good or for bad, and I've been questioning his role since early C2. I have @'d Archer multiple times with questions about his role since he @'d Mat, even @'d him in the post where I asked him if he was a Reviver or had an ability that could interact with the dead, and he's responded to literally none of them. He's still not told us the results he learned from his Mat action, and I'm not the only person that's been asking for the results. I don't know Archer at all really, but I do know that he's smart, and I'm sure he's on a team with someone who knows me well enough to know how relentless I am too. He might not have attracted much flak before, but I'm sure his team would have seen my push for him coming. Especially if he failed to deliver. Frankly, I don't even care about the Thaid scan nonsense. It's not a basis for my reason for wanting him dead. It's just another thing we have to deal with. My case boils down to this, and nothing more. We are completely and utterly lost without alignment flips. Archer is the ONLY player that claims to have a role that interacts with players that have no alignments, and NO ONE else can verify whether or not he's honest about anything until we see if his role as fact. If literally any other player was claiming the same thing, I'd vote them for the same reason to. We need to know.
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Could be E!Archer and V!Thaid too. The biggest benefit would be him not dying today. ED1T: Could also be that he never planned on sticking with the scan story, and he just posted that to distract / confuse us more.
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Generally, we kill the person Seeked as an Elim before we kill the Seeker themselves, right? So at the very least it buys him a cycle + distracts us from learning his role claim was always crem. The fact we don't get alignment flips is another obfuscating factor. Like you said, how could we even verify Thaid's an elim after the fact? In the event we did eventually find out that Thaid is an elim, it can be argued in E!Archer's favor. Could also be argued for as a bus, but presumably, they'd be banking on the first. ED1T: And yeah, tbh legitimately scanning Thaid makes very little sense if Archer is Village. Literally any other player's scan would be more useful imo. It would have to be a Illwei/Meerkat fakeout.
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Friendly reminder for said Gifter to claim and verify this brand new factor that's making the game even more impossible to decipherrr
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My VC is better...
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Didn't you see my second-to-last post? The vote count is: (17) Archer: Amanuensis, Amanuensis, Amanuensis, Amanuensis, Amanuensis, Amanuensis, Amanuensis, Amanuensis, Amanuensis, Amanuensis, Amanuensis, Amanuensis, Amanuensis, Amanuensis, Amanuensis, Amanuensis, Amanuensis, Wanna be the 18th? ED1T: Whoops didn't mean to double post sorry <3
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I think my biggest hang up with his role is, well, why does it exist at all? If the answers have to be honest, and that's meant to be our way of finding out which of the dead are Villagers and which are Elims, where is the redundancy? Why is there no one else with this weirdly specific yet critical role? What happens if he got NK'd D1 and the Village lost it's only effective alignment scanner? Why not just have a reveal-dead-alignment role? If the answers can include lies, what's the point at all? Elims are going to lie when they die just as they'd lie while they're alive. I just don't get it.
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Honestly all these insane tangents aside, we need to kill Archer today regardless. The fact remains that he is the only player claiming a role that suggests alignment flips can eventually happen, and until he dies and said role is presented in the next write-up, we have no idea if we can trust him or where we go from here. If he's been honest with us, we'll all know beyond the shadow of a doubt that we can turn alignment flips back on. And tbh, losing his role doesn't seem like a big loss. If he's lying, then we caught an elim and can begin narrowing things down further. Archer. Archer. Archer. Archer. Archer. Archer. Archer. Archer. Archer. Archer. Archer. Archer. Archer. Archer. Archer. Archer. Archer. In case it wasn't clear who I think needs to die >>
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Yeah I realized that not too long ago actually (and edited a strikethrough / clarification) I've been rereading the past few pages for a couple hours now, trying to make sense of this mess that TJ has left us. RIP You probably don't need to worry about it, I just don't want to upset anyone I hope you know I don't mean to attack you, if you've perceived it that way. Annnnnnnnnd I'm back to thinking N!Devo E!Karn RIP ED1T: Also, just realized something. @Tani does your role say you only steal Epic powers? Because I just remembered that Devo is claiming Non-Epic Epic Hunter, which means it wouldn't even work anyway.
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Yeah, that's immediately what I figured the plan was. E!Archer buys himself / his team more time / credit by either wasting our time voting a low hanging fruit Villager or busing a low hanging fruit elim. Hence me just wanting to kill them both and be done with it. TBH even ignoring that, it's this post that gets me. WE STILL HAVE NO ALIGNMENT FLIP? WHERE'S THE MAT INFO??? ED1T: All caps not meant to express anger, but confusion. I'm just really heckin confused. Please no one take offense <3
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Ah okay, I understand better now. I definitely think you're more willing to believe in V!Archer than me the moment I saw that post my already forming tunnel solidified into an actual one.
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Oh yeah, question. Did you ask this because you think V!Archer is baiting a reaction from Thaid? Or because you think E!Archer is pulling a Meerkat to look Villagery?
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Second guessing E!Devo again ugh. Among the Karn voters, who could even be on her team??? ED1T: ........... ............................. ............................................................... ED2T: I swear to Calamity, I'm going to need a whole cabal of therapists after this game for all the mental hoops and loops it's made me jump / run through.
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Just in case it was missed due to posts coming in at the same time as my edit:
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Uhm, hello? No alignment flips? Kayana amount of roles? You asked for this. ED1T: I say that with love, if it wasn't clear <3 I've embraced the insanity and I'm thriving.
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If by us, you mean you and me, I propose we just bro it out in thread and rarely talk in the doc anyway.
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