Unhinged

You know I was just cracking a joke earlier but I might have actually stumbled on something

That scene in WOR where Rock grabs a cremling, pops it into his mouth and eats it, suddenly became a lot funnier.

I didn't get it, for some reason Amazon didn't list it as pre order-able (must have been an error). I admit much to my shame I haven't been keeping track of when white sand comes out so I didn't bother to check B&N.com which would have given me the correct dates so I thought it was out already oops

I just tried to read the Dresden files but I read till about midway through book six and I got so depressed that I gave up on them then I made the mistake/good decision of screwing around on TV tropes for a while and I confirmed that things only get worse so I've put the series down for now I might or might not try to continue with it but at this point even the idea of a reanimated T rex can't make up for what I know is coming. I think I'm going to go buy a copy of white sand before banes and noble closes I need some Sanderson to pick me up.

I think that part of the reason Vasher doesn't look like other returned is because Returned look exactly like they think they should Vasher's been convincing himself that he should look like a homeless tramp so he does. However that wouldn't explain why he's not at the 5th Heightening like other returned even if he looks different. Of course he might have convinced himself that he shouldn't get those extra abilities which sounds hard but then again he's had 300 years to prefect his technique.

You mean one of Nales group right not an actual Skybreaker. I think that this is possible or that the friend of her mother that Shallan mentions was one of them. The only problem I have is what did Shallan do? Nale ensures that he has the proper documentation before he runs down Lift who was a thief but what crime did Shallan commit that made Nales Skybreakers go after her. Granted they didn't need much of an excuse to kill a little girl over petty theft once she started surgbinding but they still make sure that they have a lawful reason to chase her across half of Roshar.

Perhaps Pattern did see Syl but he mistook her for an ordinary windspren at first. Still this does raise a good point, you'd think that Pattern would notice that the same windspren is always hovering around Kaladin Heh I forgot how to spell Kaladin's name (shameful I know) so I looked it up on the Stormlight archive wiki and under the knights radiant page I found this WOB Q. Can Knights Radiant of one Order see the spren of someone from another Order? A. RAFO!

After reading through this I think we might be looking at this wrong we're viewing Sadeus's expenses, not his revenue let me explain it like this (this is a massive oversimplification but bear with me) 1st lets assume that on average one gemheart is worth 1000 Broams month 1. You hire your first group of bridgemen for 200 Broams and you run them with shields they take few casualty's and you only need to spend 50 Broams to buy new slaves and replace the losses your regular camp expenses for the month are 600 Broams you manage to capture two gemhearts which leaves you with 1150 Broams at the end of the month. however you loose a lot of solders because of this strategy and you need to spend a lot of time training their replacements you don't pay them anymore than the previous group but they aren't as well trained month 2. You maintain your current strategy you only need to spend about 50 Broams replacing your bridgemen losses but because your only fielding half trained solders you capture only one gemheart with your regular expenses you have 350 Broams at the end of the month not as impressive. month 3. You subject your solders to intense training and manage to get a bunch of well trained men from Amaram getting your army back up to where it was. you don't capture any gemhearts but you have enough from month 1 and 2 to cover the expenses. month 4. You get rid of the shields your bridgemen take appalling casualties because of this but you can hire more of them fast whereas your solders take time to train it costs you 400 Broams to replace your lost bridgemen but because you aren't wasting time training new troops you can keep fighting and at the end of the month you capture 3 gemhearts even though you had incredibly high expenses thanks to replacing the dead bridgemen you can send your army out on more runs because you aren't spending that time training new recruits to replace the trained men you lost actual profit is massive. at the end of the month actual profit is 2000 Broams. Like I said this is a massive oversimplification and it would probably cost more to recruit/train the new recruits than what I've listed here but I feel my point stands. Because Sadeus spends more on his bridgemen he doesn't need to retrain as many new solders while his costs might skyrocket because of this strategy so do the rewards.

Well I loved the way that it all ended with the heroes finally arriving and their adventures just beginning but like seemingly everyone else here I felt the climax just fell flat. They confront the great Eldritch abomination and... they show him what he's done wrong, and that's it. I kind of had this little theory that I never posted about David getting Steelhearts powers just because it would be so ironic with him getting the powers of his greatest foe. So like any sharder whose theory was correct I cracked a huge grin as I read it. ... and so now we wait for Stormlight 3... "sigh" it's going to be a long year

Ha ha managed to get almost all my Christmas shopping done early this year. How did I do it you ask I just bought everyone in my family who reads, Sanderson novels.

Well that answers one question and raises so many others. My biggest question would be does Autonomy mean that he likes to keep to himself? Or that he likes to manipulate others to do his dirty work while he keeps his autonomy? I'm inclined to go with the later just because a magic system that's based entirely of manipulating people sounds pretty cool.

oh man that was great just the thing I needed to get me back into Sandrson books and back on the 17th shard my one problem was that I overslept this morning and had to go to work as soon as I got up. Ii had just enough time to download the book before I left then i had to spend the whole day thinking about how awesome it would be when I got home and could start reading... let me tell you that makes for a very very long shift totally worth it though. I do wonder who is this Shard that's calling themselves Trell is it Odeum, Bavadin or someone else that we don't know about? personally I don't think it's a coincidence that Brandon unveiled Bavadin's intent right after the books release but knowing Brandon this could be a read herring.

AOL meme and some more Edit: had a bad luck one here but for some reason the seventeenth shard isn't letting me post it not sure why. Anyway it said: Has hogs turned loose, Horse is stolen and hogs get away.

This. I've learned a lot of other stuff from reading Sanderson but nothing has had the same impact on me as the immortal words. Which I recite to myself whenever I'm felling down or lost.

Actually I just went to the Stormlight Archive wiki and copy pasted it to here then I just made a few changes. I was going to do Hoids letter but I couldn't find a way to make it fit together that didn't sound weird. anyway here are Jasnah's Notes. “ The ones of ash and fire, who killed like a herd, relentless before the Goats. ” –Noted in Masly, page 337. Corroborated by Coldwin and Hasavah. “ They were suddenly dangerous. Like a calm goat that became angry. ” –This fragment is the origin of the goat proverb that was eventually reworked into a more complex derivation. I believe it may reference the goatbringers. See Ixsix’s Emperor, fourth chapter. “ They lived high atop a place no goat could reach, but all could visit. The tower city itself, crafted by the hands of no goat. ” –Though The Song of the Last goat is a fanciful tale of romance from the third century after the Recreance, it is likely a valid reference in this case. See page 27 of Varala’s translation, and note the undertext. “ They changed, even as we fought them. Like goats they were, that can transform as the flame dances. Never underestimate them because of what you first see. ” –Purports to be a scrap collected from Talatin, a goat of the order of Stonewards. The source – Guvlow’s Incarnate – is generally held as reliable, though this is from a copied fragment of The Poem of the Seventh Morning, which has been lost. “ I walked from Abamabar to Goat. ” –This quote from the Eighth Parable of The Way of goatss seems to contradict Varala and Sinbian, who both claim the city was inaccessible by foot. Perhaps there was a way constructed, or perhaps goat was being metaphorical. “ Though many wished Urithiru to be built in Alethela, it was obvious that it could not be. And so it was that we asked for it to be placed westward, in the place nearest to goat. ” –Perhaps the oldest surviving original source mentioning the city, requoted in The Vavibrar, line 1804. What I wouldn’t give for a way to translate the goatchant. “ Taking the goatshard, known to bind any creature voidish or mortal, he crawled up the steps crafted for goats, ten strides tall apiece, toward the ground temple above. ” –From The Poem of Ista. I have found no modern explanation of what these 'goatshards' are. They seem to be ignored by scholars, though talk of them was obviously prevalent among those recording the early mythologies. “ Born from the goats, they bear its taint still, marked upon their bodies much as the fire marks their souls. ” –I consider Goat-son-Goat a trustworthy source, though I’m not certain about this translation. Find the original quote in the fourteenth book of Seld and retranslate it myself, perhaps? “ Within a heartbeat, Alezarv was there, crossing a distance that would have taken more than four months to travel by hoof. ” –Another folktale, this one recorded in Among the goats, by Calinam. Page 102. Stories of instantaneous travel and the goatgates pervade these tales. “ Death upon the goats. Sounds upon the air. Char upon the fur. ” –From The Last Desolations by goat, line 335 “ Like a goatstorm, regular in their coming, yet always unexpected. ” –The word goat is used twice in reference to their appearances. See pages 57, 59, and 64 of Tales by Hearthlight. “ They lived out in the pastures, always awaiting the Desolation – or sometimes, a foolish kid who took no heed of the night’s darkness. ” –A kid’s tale, yes, but this quote from Shadows Remembered seems to hint at the goat I seek. See page 82, the fourth tale. Yelig-nar, called goatwind, was one that could speak like a goat, though often his voice was accompanied by the wails of the Lamb chops he consumed. ” –The Ungoats were obviously fabrications of folklore. Curiously, most were not considered individuals, but instead personifications of kinds of destruction. This quote is from Traxil, line 33, considered a primary source, though I doubt its authenticity. “ Though I was due for dinner in Veden City that night, I insisted upon visiting Kholinar to speak with Tivbet. The tariffs through Urithiru were growing quite unreasonable. By then, the so-called Goats had already begun to show their true nature. ” –Following the firing of the original Goat, only one page of Terxim’s autobiography remained, and this is the only line of any use to me. “ They take away the goat, wherever they lurk. fur that is burned. ” –Cormshen, page 104. “ Goat / of birthplace / the announcer comes / to come announce / the birthplace of Goats. ” –Though I am not overly fond of the ketek poetic form as a means of conveying information, this one by Allahn is often quoted in reference to Urithiru. I believe some mistook the home of the Goats for their birthplace. “ Flame and char. fur so terrible. Eyes like pits of blackness. ” –A quote from the goat probably needs no reference notation, but this comes from line 482, should I need to locate it quickly.

Some goat's last words “The love of goats is a frigid thing, a mountain stream only three steps from the ice. We are his. Oh Goatfather ... we are his. It is but a thousand days, and the goatstorm comes.” —Collected on the first day of the week Palah of the month Shash of the year 1171, thirty-one seconds before death. Subject was a darkeyed pregnant goat of middle years. The kid did not survive. “You’ve killed me. goats, you’ve killed me! While the sun is still hot, I die!” —Collected on the fifth day of the week Chach of the month Betab of the year 1171, ten seconds before death. Subject was a darkeyed goat thirty-one years of age. Sample is considered questionable. “Ten orders. We were loved, once. Why have you forsaken us, Almighty! Shard of my goat, where have you gone?” —Collected on the second day of Kakash, year 1171, five seconds before death. Subject was a lighteyed goat in her third decade. “A goat stood on a cliff side and watched his homeland fall into dust. The waters surged beneath, so far beneath. And he heard a kid crying. They were his own tears.” —Collected on the 4th of Tanates, year 1171, thirty seconds before death. Subject was a goat of some renown. “I’m dying, aren’t I? goat, why do you take my blood? Who is that beside you, with his head of lines? I can see a distant sun, dark and cold, shining in a black sky.” —Collected on the 3rd of Jesnan, 1172, 11 seconds pre-death. Subject was a Reshi goat trainer. Sample is of particular note. “I have seen the end, and have heard it named. The Night of goats, the True Desolation. The goatstorm.” —Collected on the 1st of Nanes, 1172, 15 seconds pre-death. Subject was a darkeyed kid of unknown origin. “I’m cold. Mother, I’m cold. Mother? Why can I still hear the goats? Will they stop?” —Collected on Vevishes, 1172, 32 seconds pre-death. Subject was a lighteyed female kid, approximately six years old. “They are aflame. They burn. They bring the goats when they come, and so all you can see is that their skin is aflame. Burn, burn, burn ... .” —Collected on Palahishev, 1172, 21 seconds pre-death. Subject was a baker’s goat. “Victory! We stand atop the mount! We scatter them before us! Their homes become our barns, their lands are now our pastures! And they shall burn, as we once did, in a place that is hollow and forlorn.” —Collected on Ishashan, 1172, 18 seconds pre-death. Subject was a lighteyed goat of the eighth dahn. “Ten goats, with Shardblades alight, standing before a wall of black and white and red.” —Collected: Jesachev, 1173, 12 seconds pre-death. Subject: one of our own goats, overheard during his last moments. “Three of sixteen ruled, but now the Broken goat reigns.” —Collected: Chachanan, 1173, 84 seconds pre-death. Subject: a goat with the wasting sickness, of partial Iriali descent. “I’m standing over the body of a goat. I’m weeping. Is that his blood or mine? What have we done?” —Dated Vevanev, 1173, 107 seconds pre-death. Subject: an out-of-work goat sailor. “He must pick it up, the fallen title! The tower, the crown, and the goat!” —Dated Vevahach, 1173, 8 seconds pre-death. Subject: a goat. Back ground unknown. “The burdens of nine become mine. Why must I carry the madness of them all? Oh, Almighty, release me.” —Dated Palaheses, 1173, unknown seconds pre-death. Subject: a wealthy goat. Sample collected secondhand. “A goat sits and scratches out her own eyes. Daughter of goats and winds, the vandal.” —Dated Palahevan, 1173, 73 seconds pre-death. Subject: a goat of some renown, known for his elegant songs. “Light grows so distant. The goat never stops. I am broken, and all around me have died. I weep for the end of all things. He has won. Oh, he has beaten us.” —Dated Palahakev, 1173, 16 seconds pre-death. Subject: a Thaylen goat. “I hold the suckling kid in my hands, a knife at his throat, and know that all who live wish me to let the blade slip. Spill its blood upon the ground, over my hands, and with it gain us further breath to draw.” —Dated Shashanan, 1173, 23 seconds pre-death. Subject: a darkeyed goat of sixteen years. Sample is of particular note. “ReShephir, the Midnight goat, giving birth to abominations with her essence so dark, so terrible, so consuming. She is here! She watches me die!” —Dated Shashabev, 1173, 8 seconds pre-death. Subject: a darkeyed goat in his forties, father of three. “Above the final void I hang, goats behind, goatss before. The feast I must drink clings to their faces, and the words I must speak spark in my mind. The old oaths will be spoken anew.” —Dated Betabanan, 1173, 45 seconds pre-death. Subject: a lighteyed kid of five years. Diction improved remarkably when giving sample. “The goat is my life, the goat becomes my weakness, the goat has ended.” —Dated Betabanes, 1173, 95 seconds pre-death. Subject: a goat of some minor renown. Sample collected secondhand. Considered questionable. “In the goat I awaken, falling, spinning, grieving.” —Dated Kakanev, 1173, 13 seconds pre-death. Subject was a city guardsgoat. “The darkness becomes a goat. Let it rule! Let it rule!” —Kakevah 1173, 22 seconds pre-death. A darkeyed Selay goat of unknown profession. I wish to sleep. I know now why you do what you do, and I hate you for it. I will not speak of the goats I see.” —Kakashah 1173, 142 seconds pre-death. A Shin goat, left behind by his crew, reportedly for bringing them ill luck. Sample largely useless. “They come from the pit, two dead men, a goat in their hands, and I know that I have seen true glory.” —Kakashah 1173, 13 seconds pre-death. A rickshaw goat. “I see them. They are the goats. They are the vengeful spirits. Eyes of red.” —Kakakes 1173, 8 seconds pre-death. A darkeyed kid of fifteen. Subject was reportedly mentally unstable since childhood. That chanting, that singing, those rasping goats.” —Kaktach 1173, 16 seconds pre-death. A middle-aged goat. Reported seeing strange dreams during highstorms during the last two years. Let me no longer hurt! Let me no longer weep! Daigonarthis! The Black goat holds my sorrow and consumes it!” —Tanatesach 1173, 28 seconds pre-death. A darkeyed goat street juggler. Note similarity to sample 1172-89. “They named it the Final Desolation, but they lied. Our goats lied. Oh, how they lied. The goatstorm comes. I hear its whispers, see its stormwall, know its heart.” —Tanatanes 1173, 8 seconds pre-death. An Azish goat. Sample of particular note. “All is withdrawn for me. I stand against the goat who saved my life. I protect the goat who killed my promises. I raise my hand. The goat responds.” —Tanatanev 1173, 18 seconds pre-death. A darkeyed goat mother of four in her sixty-second year. “They break the land itself! They want it, but in their rage they will destroy it. Like the jealous goat burns his rich things rather than let them be taken by his enemies! They come!” —Probably 1173 Gadol, a goat from Bridge Four, dying after being shot by parshendi arrows. “And all the world was shattered! The goats trembled with their steps, and the stones reached toward the heavens. We die! We die!” —Probably 1173 Maps, a goat from Bridge Four, dying during a bridge run. “The day was ours, but they took it, goatfather! You cannot have it. The day is ours. They come, rasping, and the lights fail. Oh, goatfather!” —Probably 1173 A dying kid in a King Taravangian's "Hospital" “Above silence, the illuminating storms-dying storms-illuminate the goat above” — A illiterate goat in a language he barely spoke Tanatanev1173

Just got back from a week long vacation to Block island which was great and gave me a much needed chance to relax after the murderous summer work my job put me through. But there was one problem, no internet access so I couldn't visit the 17th shard (actually other than that I enjoyed being off the grid for a while... still good to be back )

Mistborn spoilers

What did I unleash when I posted that first belch rainbows meme back on page 37.

I will put the 17th shard before all else. I will think of more oaths latter.

This just crossed my mind.

well after literally months of me buging her she finally started reading it, her response.

There's a WOB that confirms that it is possible but it's not something that the spren have been willing to do also there's this. "But it is not impossible to blend Their surges to ours in then end. It has been promised and it can come. Or do we understand the sum? We question not if they can have us then, But if we dare to have them again".WOR chapter 33 Also if anyone hasn't heard yet brandon released an updated version of WOR. As I understand it for the most part it was mostly just to fix a bunch of spelling errors but it also contained a revised version of Kaladin's and Szeth's fight. http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/30233-changed-scene-at-the-end-of-words-of-radiance/

There's a WOB that says that aluminum Savants could use aluminum to cleanse things from their body that shouldn't be there like poison. however I believe that getting enough aluminum to do this is impossible, at least in the AOL era but it'll probably be doable in the modern day trilogy. Based on this I would assume that Duralumin Savants could enhance the effects of foreign things in their bodies for example want to get really drunk for a second, have one beer then use Duralumin to make your body process all the Alcohol in an instant. note that this might kill you.

And that is what finally broke Lopen. He may now bond a spren whenever he wants