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Mid-Range Game 4: The Alethi War of Unification
little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Not that I don't believe Meta's claim (because I do), but this seems to base a lot on the fact that he couldn't have known that cleaning latrines was the task since Twei hadn't posted. However, Odysa had already said that she'd cleaned the latrines. So if he were trying to pull one over on us, he had the information necessary to do so. I don't think he did, but it is possible.- 611 replies
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Mid-Range Game 4: The Alethi War of Unification
little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
We have a lack of kills from the spies this cycle. Most of the lighteyes have responded, saying they didn't skip battle. Therefore, the lack can only be from either targeting an Aladar spy, a scout, or the Officer's roleblocking. This is why I stepped forward in the first place. I thought there was a good chance Twei was a spy. After her response, it doesn't appear that's so. However, we know there's another Officer out there, since Meta got roleblocked on the first cycle. If the Officer is Dalinar-aligned, they'll step forward to help us out, because their target is either a scout or a spy. And if they're a scout, I'm pretty sure a Shardblade won't kill them if they're out scouting, but we can ask Wyrm to confirm that. If the Officer is aligned to a different highprince, they're unlikely to step forward, since the person they targeted is, once again, either a scout or a spy, and on the off-chance the person is the spy, I highly doubt they'll want to kill him. As for the other part I said. If this happened along with a targeting of an Aladar spy, assuming there are only two teams of spies, they know who's on the other team. They don't know for certain that the person they targeted is a spy, but they'll have a pretty good idea (particular the last person on the Vamah team), and they can use that to their advantage. EDIT: Actually. That doesn't work. There'd have to be three teams for that to work. Let me work this out on paper first.- 611 replies
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Mid-Range Game 4: The Alethi War of Unification
little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Twei. For now. I'm hoping the other Officer will step forward to say who they blocked, because that person could be a spy. The only reason I can think of that they wouldn't in this case is if the other Officer is also a spy. Which means that, if one of the teams did target an Aladar spy, both teams (assuming there's just two) know who's on the other team (although Vamah's team only knows one of the people on the Aladar team). Granted, the team with the Officer wouldn't be certain that the person they targeted is the Aladar spy, since they could also be a scout who left, but they'd still be unlikely to reveal themselves on the off-chance the person is a spy.- 611 replies
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Mid-Range Game 4: The Alethi War of Unification
little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I actually got slightly suspicious of Jain last cycle because of this. Not because I thought he was her partner though. I thought it was because he was also a spy and he was trying to give pointers to a fellow spy, and since he had no other way to communicate, he had to do it via thread.- 611 replies
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Mid-Range Game 4: The Alethi War of Unification
little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I figured there was another Officer. At the beginning of the game, during one of the clarification posts, Wyrm worded one of the clarifcations as "an Officer" rather than "the Officer". Granted, that could've just been intentional vagueness so we don't know how many there are, but that's an easy thing to slip up with, especially in a clarification. And I was pretty sure there'd be two anyway.- 611 replies
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Mid-Range Game 4: The Alethi War of Unification
little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Is that question directed toward me? Also, Joe, I actually have a habit of revealing my role when I have one. I mean, there was the time I was Aiel-Blooded and I told Kas and Wes almost right off the bat. Granted, that wasn't an important role so it may not matter, but the fact that the darkfriends found out I was Aiel-Blooded is the only reason I survived that game. More importantly, there was mitosis last game. I'd say that was a pretty dang powerful and important role. Wanna know how long it took me to hint that I had it? Less than a half a cycle. By the start of the second cycle, Ren, Gamma, and Aonar all knew I had Mitosis. So.....yeah. Important roles and not revealing them? That logic doesn't really fly in regards to me. Because I do. Quite frequently. At that point in time, I did think I knew that. Revealing my role in a PM to select people of my choosing is one thing. Announcing it in the thread for all to see is something entirely different. So I was hesitant to reveal unless it was dire. But almost immediately after saying that, I realized that there was only one lighteyes role that could find that kind of information. So I debated there for about ten minutes whether I should just have out with it and skip the waiting, or wait for a little bit longer. And then Kas pointed it out, ending my internal debate. Should I have revealed right off the bat? Probably, yes. But at the same time, I knew people would do exactly what they are doing: saying it's too easy and wondering if I'm lying about my role. Hence that debate, even when I knew everyone would know my role. I believe some of the problem here is that when I wasn't completely taking the game seriously, I wasn't thinking through how everyone else would weigh my posts. I should've been. When I called Kas out, I genuinely considered it suspicious. And then I did pretty much the same thing. Did I view it as the same, in my not-taking-the-game-seriously head? At the time, no. Not at all. If I had, I wouldn't have done it. But again, I wasn't taking it seriously. I'd like to think that if we were to completely ignore everything that I said before about, oh, 28 hours ago, you wouldn't be seeing contradictions. But you're right. I'm not like this when I'm evil. That's because I take the game very seriously right from the start when I am. I haven't played this badly since LG1.... Note to self: next time your threat level goes up, skip a few games. Your head clearly isn't on straight in the one right after. >>- 611 replies
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Mid-Range Game 4: The Alethi War of Unification
little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
This is true. And anyone who's been particularly observant of my posts before this would have a decent idea what I am anyway. So sure. Why not? I'm an Officer. I roleblocked Odysa the first cycle. It was her comment about that that's taken me off her case as much as I was. I roleblocked Twei last cycle. As it's pretty much a guarantee now that the lack of kills is, for at least one of the spy teams, due to either a scout or an Officer, I'm more than a little bit suspicious of her. As for the votes on me. I'm not even going to try to defend myself. It's pretty clear that nothing I say in defense is going to matter. So now, I'm going to get down to analyzing everything that's happened thus far in the game. If I find anything, I'll post it in the thread. Hopefully, when I die, and you guys can finally trust that I'm not lying to you, it might be of some use.- 611 replies
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Mid-Range Game 4: The Alethi War of Unification
little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I would if it was pretty much guaranteed that I was about to die and I thought I'd found a spy....- 611 replies
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Mid-Range Game 4: The Alethi War of Unification
little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Highstorm is at the end of this cycle. Meaning no actions this cycle. Only a lynch. And there's no way to escape that lynch. It's called laying out my logic so people can see how I got to where I am. I'm no longer completely convinced of Odysa's guilt. She said something a bit ago (toward the beginning of this cycle) that got me to rethink things. Would I still like explanations from her on some of those things I mentioned? Sure. But I'm not gung-ho toward her anymore. My sights have moved onto better targets. Different game, different strategy. In LG9, the SK was a threat because he could stalk other people, not see their alignment, and I had a role he would want to be rid of. Plus, he can only win by himself. In this game, the spies can win together. It's about figuring out who's on your side as well. While I wouldn't use the term "protect" in reference to the other spies, if I were a spy, I would be trying to figure it out. I have someone I'd like to cast a vote on, but doing so would require me to reveal my role, so I think I'm just going to let this play out a little more. If others seem to want to lynch me too, I'll reveal it, but until then.... I would, however, like to hear from Aonar. He's normally a little more active than this. I don't expect him to respond today, since he said he's got karate on Thursday, but I've noticed he checks in here pretty often throughout the day (both today and yesterday), but he never posts.- 611 replies
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Mid-Range Game 4: The Alethi War of Unification
little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I wasn't saying battle is a worse time to skip than a skirmish. I just don't really think the lighteyes were much of a target right now, and since it's only a one-shot skip for the entire game, I'm saving it for when I might need it. Sure, there's always the chance you'll get targeted unexpectedly and die (like in Ash's case), but I'd curse myself for an idiot if I skipped combat just because I was worried I might get targeted and then two cycles later, know that I'm definitely getting targeted, and then I'm s.o.l. And my vote was on Jasnah.- 611 replies
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Mid-Range Game 4: The Alethi War of Unification
little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Yes, but the messenger can only contact one person per cycle, assuming they're not blocked by an officer, and they can only have one PM going at a time. So what Ren means is that if the team that hit Aladar's spy has a messenger, that messenger could contact the spy they tried to hit. They couldn't communicate this cycle, but they'd be in communication the next one, since PMs are started at the rollover. Ren, if the spies sabotaged a player blocked by an Officer, that player would still die. It's when the Officer blocks the spy from submitting the name that makes the spy team's sabotage fail. However, good call on the Scout. I'd forgotten about that. And that's true about the lighteyes combat skip. I sort of doubt any of the lighteyes skipped though. I sure didn't, and I don't see why any of the others would, since it's a one-shot.- 611 replies
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Mid-Range Game 4: The Alethi War of Unification
little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Meta's vote is counted twice. It should only be on there once, for Maill/Marand, since he never retracted it. As for the lack of kills. My personal theory is that Jain's team targeted a spy loyal to Aladar on accident. Either that or they just forgot to put in a kill. Or maybe an Officer blocked Jain, and Jain was the one who submitted the name. Most plausible of those is that they targeted another spy. But that still leaves the other team(s). I'm inclined to think that because not even one kill got through means that there's probably only one other team. And they could've gotten blocked from adding their name to the list.- 611 replies
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Mid-Range Game 4: The Alethi War of Unification
little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I put mine on Jasnah.- 611 replies
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little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I was wondering when someone was going to mention that. It occurred to me late last night. To be honest, there's not much. I'd say it's about the initial post--if it's a blatant statement or more of a hint--but I've said it so much in the last few days that there's really not much difference between how Kas brought it up and what I'm doing. I can see how it looks fishy, and I'd be suspicious of me as well for that very fact. Ah, well. If nothing else, I've learned that I really, really don't like this playstyle. I dislike being this talkative. In theory, yes. We'll see if it works the same way in practice. I know that my time as Witless in LG6 helped me last game, and while I'm seeing tells this game, I'm also using a playstyle I'm never going to use again, so what I'm doing isn't something I'll be able to adapt into the games where I'm evil, and that's normally what I do: an instinctive adapting rather than an active incorporation of tells. So I'm not sure.- 611 replies
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Mid-Range Game 4: The Alethi War of Unification
little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Missed this last night, since it was an edit. I don't disagree with bringing things up for discussion in the thread, especially since PMs are so limited this game (assuming we even have a Messenger left to have any at all). My beef with that post was more with the way you worded it than what you were saying. You seemed to be addressing it more to the eliminators than to Team Good, which, since the spies are separated out into teams, could make sense. I also happened to read it right after I woke up from a nasty sleep (and I don't mean I didn't get much sleep. I mean it was the Sleep of Death and I remember nothing that night, which is absurdly unusual for me). Hence, I'm not sure I completely trust my mindset at that point in time. I've since read back over that particular post and it doesn't read nearly as much as directed to eliminators as I'd thought. I still can't read you though. Your blatant acceptance of being a spy could be because you are actually a spy, and since I know you dislike being an eliminator, it could make sense that you're just accepting people have discovered your duplicitous nature, and you're rolling along with it. Or it could be that you're not a spy but have accepted that everyone thinks you are. However, I'm less-inclined to think that. Outside of that one very curt post from your mobile, you haven't had the defeated tone I would expect. So basically, I have no idea what to make of you. Congratulations. Well. I have yet to play the same playstyle in a game, regardless of what team I'm on. The only time I've been remotely this talkative, though, was when I was the Mayor, but I think this beats even that, if we don't count PMs. And it is obvious to me which side I'm on. That's probably because I just got done with LG9, so the juxtaposition is making my tells very, very clear to me. But of course I'm noticing my tells. It's far easier for me to see the difference than it is for you guys. I guess my thing is that it's so obvious to me, that I figure that it must be at least a bit suggestive to you guys. But maybe it isn't. Or maybe I've simply played so well on team evil that you guys think I'd so adamantly declare my innocence like this (I'll admit, I did consider that toward the end of LG9. I chose against it because it's something that would only work once (assuming it even worked), regardless of what team I'm on. I guess I'm choosing to use it now, so I can't when I'm actually evil.) ....oops. I guess this is another one of those posts, isn't it? I'm not trying to compensate for anything. I jumped into this game expecting my new threat level to kill me off early. Because of that, I wasn't really taking the game totally seriously at first. I jumped votes to promote discussion and get everyone to check in, but I wasn't really expecting to be of any help. I think that's part of the reason why I didn't consider the time left in the cycle before I posted the vote-switch idea. I wasn't expecting to come up with any good ideas before I died, but then I did. And yes, I was highly amused by comments about my threat level. I'd think anyone would be, in my position. However, now I'm fully taking the game seriously. I noticed that shift starting when I was responding to Odysa's vote on me yesterday. I started that post taking the vote as more of a joke than anything, and I ended it actually starting to take it seriously, and from that point on for the rest of the night, the shift only got more pronounced. I'm now actively looking at wording and any possible attempt at manipulation. And let me tell you something: your post just red-flagged you. You're not high on my suspect list, but you're on there. Possibly even as Odysa's teammate. You've never really needed other RPing to play off of in the past. That's a good point. So let's look at your behavior once again, shall we? You're acting differently. This could be your own choice as an eliminator, or it could've been help from your teammate. Doesn't really matter which one. Your frantic questions in the thread about changing your playstyle could've been because you asked your teammate for advice, and they're like "Dude. I have no freaking clue. I thought the trolling would work, but she's still zeroed in on you. I have no other ideas" or something to that effect. The point is, either your teammate wasn't online at the time or they didn't know how to help you. But the biggest indicator to me of a teammate trying to help you out is your sudden random RP. They probably told you "hey, it seems they're mostly on you because you're not RPing. So RP a bit." And that tells me that your teammate definitely isn't Meta, Aonar, Maill, or Joe. None of them would encourage you to respond like that when I'm zeroed in on you. So it could be someone brand new, but I don't think it is. I think it's someone who's played a few games but hasn't played many with me. Nor have they really watched many games with me, so they don't know what advice to give you when I'm accusing you. Which mostly just leaves Newan and Twei, although technically Jasnah, Rainspren, and Macen could be on that short list too. I'm leaning more toward Twei than Newan right now, although it could be him. His post exonerating me reads slightly as if he's toying with me. My offer still stands though. If you're actually good, explain your motives very clearly. Lay it out all there, because it can't hurt you if you're good. If you're evil, continue ignoring this. I'm trying to give you an out, and the fact that you're not taking it but instead still offering up excuses indicates that you don't think you can explain yourself in a way that will get you off the hook. Still, you should probably try.- 611 replies
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little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Ah. I see what you're saying. Okay. It's not a bad lead. It'll only help find that particular killer but at least it's something. For now. .... Hm. You make a valid point. I'm actually not even sure what I can say in defense because you're right. I shouldn't have brought it up that early in the cycle, but I wasn't thinking in terms of using it that first cycle. I was thinking second cycle onward, and now I can't remember why. Still, that was my bad. It wasn't Wyrm that I was talking to. It was Kas. We were just talking about different possible strategies the eliminators could use this game and other stuff and he mentioned that about the numbers. I'm assuming he heard it from Wyrm, but it was pre-game (like a good two or three days before the game started), and things like that can change as the game's about to start. Regardless, it was the reason why I was running off the idea of just 2 teams in the beginning, and I do think that's still a possibility, but there could definitely be 3rd team out there.- 611 replies
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Mid-Range Game 4: The Alethi War of Unification
little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Huh. Wasn't expecting that kind of resigned/hopeless tone, Kas, but it definitely succeeded in lowering my suspicions toward you. I'll still be watching, but you're no longer my main lighteyes suspect. And since Macen dropped off earlier, that leaves Jain and Joe. And I'm not particularly suspicious of either one of them, although I guess I'm minorly more suspicious of Joe than Jain, but that's gut more than anything else. :/ In regard to the lighteyed vote. We should start the discussion on that fairly soon, since there's less than 14 1/2 hours left in the cycle. I'm down with Tal or Damon. Both of them have been on today, so I'm not sure why they haven't posted, and since it doesn't really help us to lynch inactives--especially since they'll die tomorrow if they stay inactive--there's not really any better place to put it. No one's innocent, so we need to keep the prospects open on the chopping block.- 611 replies
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little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I'm pretty sure the writing thing is a reference to the fact that Vorin men don't write. A lot of them know glyphs, but the writing itself is left to women. Which is why Joe has been using Jost's sister Sani with his communications. Sani is the writer. Not Jost. I'm not sure where you're getting the wishy-washy-ness. If you're using my post about my reasonings for voting Odysa as basis for my arguing with myself, it's not correct. I wrote it that way with the questions because those were the questions that led me to my end result. I like showing my reasonings and my logic for getting to where I am. It gives more possibility for people to call out any inconsistencies with the logic, which helps keep me on track with finding the eliminators. So by all means, if you see issues, mention them. That's what I want. I never said I was too busy to RP. At least not in the last few days. I may have said that at the beginning of the game, because I actually was too busy then. I have plenty of time to RP now; the problem is that I haven't had any brilliant ideas for RP with a lighteyed woman in the middle of a war. Until I have one, I'm sticking in blue. But that's in keeping with my past games. I've never been a huge one for RP. I stick more to blue text discussion than anything else. EDIT: I just noticed your comment about my being added to the lighteyes. I don't follow the logic. Please explain.- 611 replies
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little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Maill, I don't think she's doing it to be random or anything. I think she's backtracking to fall back to what we're used to seeing from her: roleplay. The question is, why? I figure she probably thinks it will lower the suspicion on her, which is something she's never really particularly cared about in past games. So why does she care now? The answer to this is the driving force of my vote on her. Her playstyle is different this game. Different not in a way of someone trying something new. It's different in a way that seems particularly suited to an eliminator in her position. She's played 3 games previously, the first 2 of which she was killed early on. The last one, she survived the entire game. The fact that she survived means that either she'd adapted her playstyle and it was working, or we'd gotten used to her particular brand of randomness. Personally, I think it was a combination of both. So why is she suddenly worried about her mortality? She survived the last game she played. But just yesterday, she was frantic and wanted pointers on how to play better. Why? Because she'd just been called out and she desperately doesn't want to die. Why? Again, she's accrued votes in the past, and she's never remotely acted this way. So what's different this time? The most obvious solution is that she's an eliminator. And really, this explains quite a few things. In all three prior games, she was an active poster. In the first two, she did a cross between RP and voting. In the third, there was less voting, but still, there was a lot of RP. She said she's not as familiar with Roshar. Okay. But she didn't really stay world-based in the Steelheart game either. Her character there seemed to end up with a spike or something very similar, which doesn't work with the world. So I don't really buy that explanation. Especially since she hasn't been voting either (or hadn't been). She put a second vote on Jasnah, and then never removed it after Jasnah posted. While she had an excuse for this, and that excuse may have been valid, I can't help but wonder what she would've said if I hadn't removed my vote. Jasnah would've been lynched. Was she secretly hoping that would happen? When she's been accused in past games, either she's immediately posted a retaliation vote (the Rithmatist game) or she's mostly just ignored the votes on her, and accused someone else very single-mindedly (LG9). She's did neither here initially. She attempted trolling at first, and when that didn't work, she got frantic, possibly hoping to garner pity, and when that didn't work, then she posted the retaliation vote, using very weak logic to support her vote. And now, she's RPing. Nothing else she's tried has worked, so she's falling back on what's worked in the past. The problem is that she's digging herself in deeper. She's not addressing what initially made her suspicious in the first place. And now she's got so much to counter, I'm not sure how she's going to do it. Odysa, just in case you really are good, I'd advise you to explain your motives. In detail. Very clear detail. I don't want to push for a lynch on you if you're actually on Team Good. I've never enjoyed doing that, and I've always been one to give people an out if I can. So please. If you're good, explain. And now, so as not to double post, since Eolhondras posted while I was writing this. I'm very familiar with the I Know You Know gambit, so that was me addressing that possibility--the fact that I'm mentioned it means they might not do it, because they know we'll be looking for it. So they might do the opposite. So I threw the opposite down as well. I was trying to be as balanced as I could with my plan at the time. As for why I even said my deal about vote switching and watching the votes in the first place. I legitimately thought I was going to die. If I were an eliminator, I would've been targeting the players who were most likely to be good, so as not to hit a potential teammate. I'm playing this game differently than I play when I'm evil. That's mostly shown through my activity. I'm being way too talkative, especially after last game. By that point in the game when I suggested the vote switching, I'd also made a few comments that could very well be construed as my being Dalinar-aligned. It's understandable that a number of people did not take those at face value, but eliminators are going to see those statements and use that knowledge. So when that possible eliminator strategy occurred to me, yeah. I was pretty sure I was going to die. So I wanted to get the plan I had out there so it might possibly be of some use to Team Good. Also, I just want to note that we've only seen one spy team's kill. It appears that this team might be following Kas' strategy. They could also be indifferent to who they kill, and simply wanted to kill someone who wouldn't give us anything to go off of. But still. That's only one team. Who's to say the other team(s) isn't(aren't) going to use a different strategy? We can't just assume that they're all going to use Kas' until we see who their targets are. And we'll be seeing that at the end of this cycle. I'm not in the clear yet, and I know it. I'm a threat, if only because of how talkative I'm being (although I'd like to think I'm a threat because I've named a spy or two as well, but I'm not going to count on that). There's still a good chance I'll die during the battle. And if I do, we'll know they're not all using the same strategy. If I don't, we'll have a better idea of where they could hit next. And Ren, I don't think you have to worry about bloodthirstiness. I've got you covered. Maybe not on the person you'd prefer, but still. You did ask. I'm simply delivering. Didn't I say no more novels? Oops...- 611 replies
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little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Aw. Another quote for my evil rep doc. (Yes. I've created an evil rep/threat doc with all the comments people say about me.) More seriously, though, I expect suspicion. Not necessarily for people to assume that I'm evil, but for there to be that possibility and for them to be less likely to trust what I say. I get that. That's what I have to deal with for being a little too good at being an eliminator. But there are times that I'm good, and if everyone is assuming I'm evil, that could end up with me lynched simply because people were worried that I might be an eliminator and even if they weren't sure, the fact that I could be and if I were, it would be bad. I don't like that logic. Threat-kills aren't a good idea for Team Good. However, if I'm being suspicious, lynch me. Lynch me good. I deserve it. As for Kas. It's good to know my mind was not deceiving me. Particularly since I read that soon after I woke up from a Sleep of Death..... Yeah, I realized that a bit after I posted. I ended up having one of my friends read it and I'm like "Tell me what you think she's saying. Because I don't get it." And that's pretty much what she said. Which I can understand. Although I wouldn't say that I'm leading the discussion, per se, just because I'm the most talkative. I'm trying to encourage discussion, yes, because discussion is the best way to figure things out: see what doesn't match up. In pretty much every single game where people don't discuss, Team Good loses. Especially in the ones with limited/no PMs. I don't want to lose. Hence, discussion. Plus, like I said, I figured I'd die when I signed up for this game, so while I normally hang back a little bit in terms of in-thread discussion (seriously. Go look at my number of posts for past games. If I continue at this rate, I'm going to blow even most of my long games out of the water), there wasn't much point in trying that this game, so why not try to get discussion flowing and see what comes out? It can't really make me any more of a target than I already am... I mean more the rep that I'm someone people want to trust, but they know they shouldn't. More the first part than the second. I knew people thought I was really good, and they were scared of me when I'm on team evil. I didn't realize people instinctively want to trust me. That is the shocker. I wouldn't make a habit of that first sentence. It could backfire on you in future games. Just saying. If the eliminators are trying to build distrust toward me, they're doing a shoddy job and they picked the wrong target. I understand why I'd look appealing for a gambit like that. Clearly people are hesitant to trust me. But it's going to be harder than they think to actually get people convinced I'm an eliminator. I'll fight to the death to clear my name, particularly when I'm being wrongly accused. While I said I don't care if people trust me or not, that lack of care doesn't extend to the time votes start piling on. .....what do you know: a statement I can't add to that doc. Although that does present an interesting dichotomy. I'm instinctively evil, but I'm nice. Hm.....I think I will put that on the doc, actually. Just because. I need to stop writing novels masquerading as posts....- 611 replies
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little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I have a hard time taking that vote seriously. Especially since your reasoning (or what I understand of your reasoning) doesn't fit what I've been doing at all. I've been talkative (far more than past games), yes, but I'm not harmless. I'm not naive enough to ever classify myself as harmless, even on Team Good, which is far from my specialty (even in LG1 when I was totally taken in by Barty, I was still the first one to peg Claincy and Aether with near certainty, and those two had flown under the radar for over half the game)..... Actually, scratch that. I'm not following what you're saying. Are you saying that the eliminators are going to be leading the discussion, trying to find out who's harmless and who isn't? And because they're leading the discussion, they can't be guilty? That's never the case, just so you know. I can link you to any number of games on here where some of the most vocal players were eliminators. So we all know not to trust someone just because they're talking a lot. It's about what they're saying. And doing. And even then, there's no certainty, if someone's good enough (at being evil). I'll give you guys a bit of a clue: I haven't tried to manipulate once in this game. Not actively (and yes. I know by saying that, you guys are probably going to think that I'm trying to manipulate you with that statement. I'm not. But I don't expect you to believe me. ). I honestly don't care if people trust me or not. I'm simply getting a kick out of seeing the responses of people who want to trust me but know that they shouldn't from past games. I have no expectations that I'm going to survive this game, but I knew that when I signed up. I'm simply making the most of the time that I'm alive, because heck, if I can call out some eliminators before I die, and Team Good wins because of it, great. That's really all that matters. Your vote seems to me to be a thing of desperation, which makes me a little more certain that you actually are a spy. Methinks the lady doth protest too much. Also, I might as well add that that last post of Kas' had red flags waving right and left for me. It seemed to be worded more towards the eliminators, giving them pointers on how to find their teammates than towards Team Good and how to help us strategize in finding them. Just the entire wording of that post set off alarm bells. I don't know if anyone else felt the same way, but I figured I'd mention it just in case.- 611 replies
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little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I just want you all to know that I'm collecting these statements for my future amusement. And it is highly amusing to me. I had no idea I'd garnered that much of a rep.- 611 replies
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little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I'll do what I want with my list and those on it. Careful there.It's statements like that that got you on the list in the first place. Challenge accepted. ....I'm wounded at your lack of trust. And now, to give into Ren's call for bloodthirstiness. Thanks to Alv's comment earlier about pir2h's past playstyle, I went back and looked at the games I wasn't able to follow (namely the Rithmatist game). She's been acting differently this game, which I realize is hard to determine with her since she's rather unpredictable; however, Alv is right. She typically pegs people pretty early on, and she also normally participates more in the votes. She hasn't been this time around, except for the vote on Jasnah. She's not RPing this game as much as she normally does, which could be just her trying something new, or it could be her being an eliminator and not knowing how to RP as one. I'm inclined to think the latter, particularly since it explains why she jumped on Jain as much as she did. She drew eliminator on her 4th game, but she doesn't want people noticing, so she tried to shunt attention onto the person who's drawn Team Good in over 12 games in a row (I think that's the number now). I wish I was on my laptop right now, because I'd be be able to put a little more evidence from my notes, but alas, all I have is my phone. And since I really should be sleeping right now, I'm just going to end with Odysa. I'll put more in the morning when I'm on a computer.- 611 replies
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little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Too innocent? Is that even a thing? Perhaps I seem innocent because I am. I think it's been obvious since the first cycle what my alignment is, but I've been told it's far easier for a person to see their tells than it is for others. Still, your vote amuses me. You can keep it, little darkeyes. Without punishment.- 611 replies
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little wilson replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Too late. The damage has been done. ...Unfortunately, Ren, I cannot act on my bloodthirsty nature quite yet. But it's very close. I just need a little more evidence, and then I'll be in business. (Gosh dang it. I wasn't planning on being bloodthirsty this game! Why'd you have to mention that?!)- 611 replies
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