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It could be simply a warning fabrial i suppose, but Secret History takes place a bit before storm light, and they hadn't been invented yet as far as i know. But true enough! Ill edit it. Kelsier thought it was pretty massive, but that's likely by Scadrial standards.

So we know that there at one point were perfect gems, and likely there are 10 (or 9) of these gems in existence. Where do we think they are? We have a Gem Library note saying that the Elsecallers were in charge of hiding at least some of these gems, so these gems could be far flung and in any realm or world.There are ten types of Gems (in Roshar) so likely there are ten perfect gems, one of each kind. It is also possible that these gems are of Odium, so there are 9 of them, but I find that less likely. I am an audio-listener so its hard for me to research, but I would love to keep a list and update what we know (with everyone's help). Note: Hoid is also said to be the bearer of the First Gem, so there could be invested gems out there from Yolin, but I am going to pretend we don't have any of those and instead try to find 10 different Perfect Polestones. 1. Perfect Emerald Topaz - The Anti-Shade/Allerter Device. The Ire - The ire had a massive Gem that they were using to hold power. Kelsier was blow away by how much power it seemed to have (like the light of souls). - The Ire have been seen trying to steal investiture, and they are very Cosmere aware. Could that have stolen (or been given) one of the gems to protect? - this gem may have just been a warning fabrial against Shades ("no shade within a day's march of here"), but I am not sure: i) Warning Fabrials: had they been invented yet in the timeline? Modern Fabrials seemed new on Roshar, and secret History is before TWoK ii) The gem was described as being massive, but that might just be a Scadrial bias. iii) The gem didn't seem to leak energy (no spren inside), which could just be Ire tech, but could also point to it being a Perfect Gem. iv) Topaz is the wrong gemstone. Coppermind: Heliodors are used in the production of alerter fabrials. These fabrials can be used to detect a variety of stimuli, such as people and emotions, and give notice to its user.The larger the heliodor, and as a result the more Stormlight that can be infused in it, the wider the fabrial's range is. 2. Unknown The Spren City - The Spren City that the Stormvengers visited is said to have a gem that doesn't lose storm light, and it is used as a perfect bank for their primary money-equivalent. This is likely a gem. I dont think we were told what kind of gem it was, but maybe i forgot. 3.Unknown Likely Other Spren Cities have 1 or 2, but we cant be sure. We cant even be sure if the gem can function simultaneously in both the Physical and Cognitive Realm - can a perfect gem hold 1 set of storm-light in the physical realm, and then hold a different set of storm light in the Cognitive realm? (if the bead is being used) 4.Perfect Ruby - The King's Drop The Gem in Theylenah. It doesn't leak Stormlight and was an object of study. Rysn doesn't mention any other gems like it, but she doesn't say it is unique, either. 5. Unknown The Gem that Kholinar Keeps - They mention a wondrous gem in Kholinar, but i cant remember much about it. No one has mentioned it doesn't leak Stormlight, but perhaps the gem has been locked in a vault for too long and hasn't seen Stormlight in centuries, or people do know it's power but our POV characters don't care enough to think about or remember that fact

I took this as the sibling having no gender - them is used are a neutral singular pronoun nowadays.

He likely put all of his breath in the doll as the investiture may have made it harder for Hoid to bond the Cryptic. Likely breath fills similar cracks that the Nahel bond fills. As for the Doll, he knows the girl will take care of it. He seems to trust that family for whatever reason.

The humans coming to terms with the fact they are genocidal monsters.

When Dalinar is trying to use Shallan to create better maps.

When Jansah met with Amoram

I would love to see Jansah or Rysn take a trip there to see what they can learn about Odium. Or even better, have Odium send yet another wave of refugees to Roshar for Dalinar to deal with.

She seemed to give up, but still tried to help Dalinar a little bit. Plus, it only helps Cultivation to have Odium think she has given up. How do we explain Lift? Something that the Stormfather deemed impossible and an upfront to Honour's power? How do we explain Super Smart Mr.T, who saw the future well enough to force Odium's hand, despite having no access to fortune? There are clues that Cultivation didn't just roll over and weep. Honor also didn't shatter in the usual way. We don't have Seons floating around, or weird power vacuums. Honour left his power sentient in the form of the Stormfather, the Spren, the Honorblades, and possibly the sibling. Honour kept his soul around for humans to use, despite his shattering. And now Dalinar has ascended in some fashion, all without Honour being around to guide. We have a WOB saying that Cultivation has learned from the shattering of other Shards; what better way than to see the splintering of honour up-close and personal. --- Honours death just seems too neat and controlled for me to think there wasn't some intention behind it.

That isn't proof that she didn't help kill honour in the end. Cultivation could have aided Honour for millennia, but then changed her tactic as the shard influenced her, and as Honour became mentally unstable. Her shard's Intent is very complex. I think she would be tempted to harvest/reep/prune honour for the greater good, and I think honour would be tempted to let her. Honour said Odium killed him, but we know from Ambition that one can me mortally wounded and then slowly linger and die - Maybe Cultivation dropped the axe; there is always another secret.

Why do people think Honour is a synonym with Unity? They really aren't. You can be honourable without uniting. Honour is about keeping your values and promises, not keeping groups of people together. Unity would be more like a mix of Dominion with Devotion or Honour. Unity would be cohesion, and honour is not specifically cohesion. A Bondmsmith could be unity, but that is not a 1 for 1 with Honour.

This reminded me a lot of Threnody - Mia went after the person who drew blood, but she was able to direct her rage. Silence for Shadows Spoiler

Makes sense, but that would be very 'after school special" Reanrin is saved by the power of his cousin's love. Dalinar is saved by his wife's unidirectional love. Roshar is saved by our, the reader's, love. And then how in Damnation did Odium defeat Devotion (god of love)? Maybe Dominion durned on him/her/it?

One thing to remember her is that we didn't see any cognitive shadows in Shadesmaar. When the battle of Kholinar took place, and candles were going out, no one notices any spirits or ghosts mulling about. This could be because: 1) The heroes were too far away to notice anyone (unlikely). 2) Honour is dead and people are now less connected to the land. 2) Rosharians aren't directly invested enough to linger in the Cognative realm. 3) Spirits go somewhere else on or off Roshar, rather than linger about where they died. Szeth and Dalinar both here the screams of the people they killed. Is this simply connection to the deaths, or are they being connected to where souls go in Roshar? Could Evi have lingered in that place? We still know so little about the Tranquiline halls/Devoterees, and even though it seems thats a Parshendi afterlife (some of the Fused were carpenters), we don't know if the humans have an equivalent.

Mraize suspects there is a way to detect surge binders. He tells this to Shallan in the letter about Heleran, but Mraize says he hasn't yet figured it out. This might be one of the lies Pattern notices, but still.

Evi's people are multi-generational refugees with a pretty strong Cosmere understanding. I have long wondered if the Ire are from Sel, and they carry the memory of that shattering with them, along with some aspects of Dominion and Devotion (unity)

Plus, we have Cultivation in play - a shard skilled at sewing and reaping. Oathbringer spoilers:

"Unity" reminds me a lot of Dominion. Just saying.

I am of the opinion that Cultivation helped do a coup de grace on Honour for 3 reasons: 1) Honour was insane, and as his partner, Cultivation felt she should end his life rather than Odium get the satisfaction. (Honor was insane and hasn't realized this) 2) Cultivation felt that she would be able to gather information about a shattering. Having it happen on her terms could help her learn more. 3) Cultivation could gain some of Honour's power almost like using him as fertilizer. - She now is making things like Radiants that don't need stormlight, and Leaders that can see the future (Mr.T) Possible Fourth 4) Cultivation could have taken a seed of Honour and used his body as fertilizer. Now Unity is growing out of the powers honour left behind. Have her agents somehow collected powers from Sel? Honour + Dominion + Devotion would be Unity, no? Even a pruning of Honour itself could be Unity. Has Cultivation made a better shard?

I think the ten gas giants are sealing in Odium somehow, but I am not sure how.

Possible. We saw that Shallan is quieter than Kal when it came to using investiture in Kholinar. It could always be a bit of both.

Oathbringer spoilers:

i suspect Odium did the majority of his damage to Honour by making a Honour go against its intention. Honour lying to his radiants was not honorable, and the poor shard seems to get crazier and crazier about that fact. Plus, honour once protected the Parshendi, but then switched to the humans once the Parsh started to slaugter the refugees. He must have had mixed ideas about what was right, perhaps even having conflicting loyalties to the two groups at different times. Honor had bound himself to humanitt, but humanity kept dissapointing him. Odium raised the humans, let them loose on Roshar, and watched Honour struggle with his morall dilemmas. Then honour settles on the oaths to bind humanity to him, forgetting that humans break oaths. Each broken oath weakened him. and then somehow Odium struck the final blow. Odiums immigration crises was the perfect blow to Honour’s system. Likely Cultivation and Ambition are a different sort of ideal and needed to be murdered via a different method.

There are 2 emeralds (Truthwatchers) that show us something is very wrong: "I worry about my fellow Truthwatchers." 8-21 - Second Emerald "Don't tell anyone. I can't say it. I must whisper. I foresaw this." - drawer 30-20 - a particularly small emerald

I need to know: 1. Is Eshonai banished to Braize? (her conversion was flawed). Will we see her there and will we see what it is like? 2. Will Eshonai still get a book? I would forgive Brandon for fibbing about Eshonai and instead give the book to Venli. We are wondering what the In-World book will be, and Venli's Listener History is a good candidate. 3. Stone Shamanism - What is it and which god is it of? Old Odium Magic from the Void Reservation, or something newer of Cultivation? 4. Renarin - Why can't Odium see him in the diagram? Did Mr.T know this in smart-version? Is Smart Mr.T using medium Mr.T to trick Odium? 5. What are the moons? What do they do? Why do they move funky? What are their spren like? 6. Where is the sibling hiding in Uritheru? (a gem-memory basically says "they [sibling]" are in there). Who hurt this gender-nonspecific demigod, and how can we help them/it? 7. Will Navani bond the night watcher? How will that affect her? Does she need to give something up? 8. Will Dalinar tell his kids about his wiferacide? Will that be okiedokie? 9. What is the 9th type of wine? Is it of Odium?