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    But the time bubbles don't cause red/blueshift for some weird realmatic reason, so can we really expect them to change how much sunlight reaches the peolle inside?Time bubbles are weird :/.
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    But can they afford to do it without risking any leaks, evidence or having to line people's pockets for life to avoid being denounced? Three people can keep a secret... if two are dead... and there are no witnesses, and if the corpses aren't found, and if all evidence is erased without leaving even more evidence and if you have a good alibi...
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    Unless they live under a dome...
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    Just want to point out this: even atium compounding can't really make someone functionaly immortal, since feruchemy woeks based on multipliers and the extra power compounding gives is not infinite, so there is a time limit implicit to atium agelessness. Also, on Hoidsplinters: I do believe he is more investiture than flesh by this point, but do you really think he could create splinters of himself? The mind of a shard is not capable if directly controlling all of its investiture at the same time, so I understand how there wouldn't be too much ramifications to letting some of it control itself, but can Hoid just tear away a big chunk of his spiritweb, give it sentience and walk away like it was nothing? I think he isn't at that level of power yet.
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    That is what I mean. Odium doens't need to have someone hateful. As far as we know, he only needs someone vulnerable who is prone to act on negative emotions. If we look at Lin Davar, and possibly Elhokar, we can see that he just can inject hate into people, or amplify their hate. What I said about the journey being hate was meant to apply to how Odium uses his champion, not why the poor, miserable champion fell so far. Love, of all things, can inspire great hatred, if it is resticted to only a few or broken by loss. Not that I think Adolin will be Odium's champion. Or that ge will go evil. Just pointing out it is possible. Actualy, I think Odium's champion will be the one who will defeat him by pulling a Marsh moment at the right time .
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    The Champion: everyone assumes a champion means a duel, but I believe in pratice it means just a chief agent of Odium that is unwillingly or unwittingly central to his plans, and in order to be useful gets some powergul knowledge or abity that could be used against Odium if it goes wrong. Convincing Idium he can lose could very well be using a very good bluff: putting everything in the line and making he think you know something he doens't. And what exactly did the Almighty tell Dalinar to do? Something that Nale thinks is a stupid idea? Recreating something the very people who were part of it destroyed? For some reason, refounding the Radiants will put humanity at risk. But if they learn this and refuse to break their oaths like in the past, because it is the right thing to do, them Odium will think they did it because they know something he doens't. And he will go all in and name a champion.
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    Has anyone ever asked how big was the southern scandrian civilization? For all that we know it could be just a couple of cities under cristal domes connected by tunnels. If the domes were big enough they could even have weather patterns.
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    Yes, to ressurect her he risked his life for the king. The third oath was only needed because the Stormfather was holding her back in shadesmar.
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    @Maxal: Adolin wouldn't need to be forced into harming his loved ones, only into harming those he sees as threaths against them, as long as it weakens humanity in the long term. Remember, the journey is hate and the destination is damnation, but it doens't matter who is the one being hated or why. And if Adolin starts seeing others like he saw Sadeas... Elhokar... If he screws up too badly, Dalinar will just force him to follow his orders until things are fixed. The most he could do for Odium, assuming he does not simply start having people assassinated, is forcing Dalinar to decide to depose him and take the throne, wich turns back to Dalinar as an indirect champion.
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    Why must all abilities be linked to the surges? The surges are not word based powers that emcompass everything the word does, but well defined powers given nice sounding names. Kaladin having exceptionaly strong/numerous squires is not linked to gravitation or adhesion. Shallan memories are not a product if her illumination surge, but something linked to their order's memmonic abilities. Renarin's visions are very likely to be just this: a strange power that comes in the "Truthwatcher" package togheter, but distinct from, the surges. @Oudeis: why are the visions something that doens't fit what we know of truthwatchers? We know they were esoteric, secretive and tactful. Nothing against visions there. If we assume they are mathematical guesses coupled with investiture-provided insight, them divulgating their visions could risk making the information lose some value by adding more variables to the system, so it makes sense for them to be relutant to speak, act or mix with the other orders.
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    Question: If having a more balanced mix of Ruin and preservation grants feruchemy with no bad side effects, why Sazed, who probably doens't want to have more Ruin than preservation, didn't make everyone a feruchemist? Or at least everyobe born after the Final ascension? I think Sazed eould like to do something more useful with that extra Ruin than turning it into a metal few could use fir something other than hemalurgy, at least before the intents of his shards warped him into non-interference.
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    No, it isn't. Pattern says Lightweavers only speak the first oath abd that Shallan needs to say truths to progress. That is perfectly in line with my hypothesis that truths are only required after a regression, since reversing a regression is progressing.
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    It has? I was not aware of that. If it is nit too much trouble, can someone post the WoB?
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    My theory is that Lightweavers progress extremely fast after the first oath by merely mastering their lies, but regress very easily after traumatic experiences. The truths would be only a way to repair their bond.
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    Just nitpicking, but I don't think it was confirmed there is a one to one correlation between truts and oaths. I posted my theory on the Lightweaver progression in my Truthwatcher thread if you want to see an alternative explanation for Shallan's early power.
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    Part 2: Classification of Radiant Progressions. Here we branch out a little from the truthwatchers into the Lightweavers and some imprecise assumptions made about them, like that truths correlate directly to oaths. There is a common assumption that is often taken for granted that, barring regressions, Lightweavers have to speak four truths to become full Radiants. This would mean they need four big lies inprinted into their beings. I disagree. I believe that the five immortal words are something that only applies to the orders that have five oaths, and the Lightweavers and Truthwatchers follow their oersonal power progressions. I believe that after Lightweavers have a strong enough bond to surgebind and said the first oath they don't need to speak any truths to progress, only pratice and master their lies with time. However what comes cheap fades fast, and falling into denial, wich is a natural defence mechanism fir them, causes then to regress. The truths work as a way of repairing the bond by regaining control of the lies instead of letting they control them. The truthwatchers on the other side follow a slower road with the regular low power start, directly linked to their periodic visions. By using their knowledge wisely yo prevent disaster, neither too late or too soon, for revealing it makes it less certain, they progress towards full radiancy. By failing to use it well they risk regression. This would also make the progression in the order a shared experience, with older truthwatchers mentoring younger ones and the whole order debating and deciding when to reveal the knowledge. This, togheter with their isolation, would make the truthwatchers a very tight-knit group, like Bridge Four by the later parts of WoK. And probably just as certain of they eventual deaths, if they are as fatalistic as I expect them to be. EDIT: Is double posting allowed if the thread faded into the second page and it was a important addition? EDIT2: Acording to The Honor Spren the lightweaver truths are indee their oaths. I am currently hunting that WoB (I am somewhat new in all this), but if that turns out true, there goes part two . EDIT3: Well, it seems there wasn't any WoB and it was just that THS had a less flexible interpretation of Pattern's words than me, so theory saved!
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    I don't think Odium's "champion" plotline will be that straightforward. First, most people assume the supposed champion will know he is working for Odium, second, they assume it will be an actual duel of champions. Now, lets look at another battle between shards using mortal minions: Mistborn Spoilers: Possible candidates for Odium's service don't need to be hateful, powerful in combat or willing to serve. They only need to be useful and vulnerable to manipulation. Graves would be a horrible champion, being a small fish just throw into the ocean. Adolin could be useful, if Odium somehow made he think he was protecting his family. Kaladin, had he not reforged his bond with Syl by seeing the error in his ways, would be an optimal candidate. Dalinar is too rigid to be corrupted directly, but if Odium somehow forces him deeper into the path of a tyrant he could divide what he seeks to unite. Shallan has been shown as quick to emotionaly jumping to conclusions while also being capable of ruthless efficacy in her "coldness of clarity". Honestly, anyone important enough to be a main character is important enough to be Odium's champion
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    While I dislike the idea Lirin had another child (how long it was since he lost both of his children anyway?), I think he won't be utterly broken. He has a firm resolution to help his town and all those who come to him, and can put his emotions besides when he needs to. I think Kaladin will find him healing the wounded and holding Hearthstone togheter, perhaps with Laral's help. Roshone... I don't think he will have any true importance. The world is ending, and if he doens't drop his petty feud to feal with more important matters people will sooner ir later stop respecting his authority and turn towards those who are actualy helping. Maybe he even surprises us by actualy being useful and he and Lirin develop a tense, cold and faint respect for each other. How Lirin will react to who his son became? Disappointment, I'd say. Radiant or not, officer or not, he would never aprove of his son becoming a killer. Like Dalinar, Lirin is a man who cannot bend. I am not saying that he will hate Kaladin, just that there will be little pride in his eyes when he hears his tale.
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    Well, I believe there is a WoB out there about Hoid's breaths that says that he has incredible control over investiture(sorry for not linking it, I am on mobile) and if you believe in Skaa's L-String theory he can use Yolen Lightweaving to manipilate the quanta of investiture directly. So if his body is basicaly held togheter by investiture, or is solid investiture, then he could probably do a lot of cool things, like aimian shapeshifting.
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    But being a tin savant didn't make Spook able to use tin feruchemy, do why would it allow Demoux to change a feruchemical attribute? Unless you imply seeing the future makes you age slower somehow wich makes little sense.
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    Make Susebron wield Nightblood unsheated and throw both at the center of Odium's councience. Not his shardpool though. Total waste of Breath, since it is imaterial, and probably could dodge at the speed of light anyway.
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    You know... there aren't many continents surrounded by drinkable water. And if there were superhurricanes every five days dying of thirst wouldn't be a major worry for most communities.
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    True. I have forgot that there is little need for subtlety when only about two dozen people in the planet will be able to pick the most obvious clues because everyone else lacks the context. But that still means Sigzil had enough opportunities to learn there is a lot of things of about this "Hoid" fellow and he may not be simply eccentric, but something else.
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    Why should there be one order per surge combination? And why do you think all nahel spren come only from Honor? Especialy if we consider Honor and Cultivation cooperated with one another before the death of Tanavast. The general opinion around the forums is that the bottom orders of the surgebinding chart are more cultivation and the top ones are more honor, with the possible exception of dustbringers(bravery and obedience sounds like honorable conduct) and willshapers(building sounds like cultivation). While I don't fully agree that the division is that neat and think surgebinding as a whole is more of Honor than Cultivation, it helps to understand each order as different from the rest and the magic system as more complex than the ones in mistborn, at least when it comes from the shardic origin. Also, while only Renarin saw the future, Shallan somehow subcounciously saw Shallash and the sailors while drawing, so clarividence is not unique to the Truthwatchers.
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    Well, Hoid does love to draw attention by acting misterious and make people feel awe at his wisdow and wit, so it would be no wonder if anyone who spent a significant amount of time with him learned a few things about the cosmere and had a hint of what he is. The question is not if Sigzil knows something, but how much he knows. I'd wager he knows Hoid has some kind of magic and knows more about the cosmere than everyone else he ever heard about. Perhaps he also knows Hoid is a worldhopper, considering worldsingers learn and teach about different cultures and this would add many opportunities for Hoid to let some secrets slip... or just tease him with enough knowledge to interest him and not enough for it to be a threat.
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