DreamEternal

Oh. Sorry, english is not my native language, so sometimes puns, good or bad, are lost on me. That still does not explain why you think alcoholics can't be Radiants. Unless that was part of the joke. I hate puns.

Re: Kaladin as a Slytherin: You must remember that often the hat lets one choose between two houses, even if it judges that one fits better. I think Kaladin would want to be a Slytherin because of how he wished in his youth to take control of his life and grow into either a respected healer or a great war hero, and to learn how the lighteyes(or purebloods in this case) think in order to outsmart them. His mission to protect others fits better Gryphindor, but I don't think he would associate with people just because they act or think the same. His desire to protect is something personal to him, and I think he would choose his house based on where he could better learn to use his skills or prove his worth, and keep protecting people on his own with that skills. As an added point, Kaladin is ambitious, even if it isn't as pronouced a trait as his wish to protect others. During all of WoR he kept proving he couldn't just keep his head low like a normal bodyguard. No, he refused to act as anything less than an equal to the Kholins, and refused to accept the status quo that made him a distrusted former-slave when he could have risen to the top of society.

Perhaps compounding cooper creates a "copy" of the memory for the purposes of feruchemy. This way everytime he felt he forgot something he could draw a better preserved memory from his metalmind and store it back, keeping its copy in his head.

I don' think so. Odium is generaly associated with red, and in WoK one bridgeman had dark violet eyes and was a nice person. However, there are some similarities between how Elhokar looked at Dalinar on WoK and how Lin looked at Shallan. Hateful eyes with shadows inside that are temporaly warded of by the presence of a Radiant. Except, in Lin's case the shadows won, while Elhokar seems to be slowly getting better. Slowly.

No. It is just your mind. There were hundreds in some orders, and the Bondsmiths were generaly only three.

Sigzil? And what is comFort? I don't get it. Althought I listened to AoL instead of reading it, and english is not my native language, so I lost some things in the climax. However, I am sure you meant "Saze".

Why? Being addicted to alcohol does not take one's honor away. The way I see it, it would be something akin to Kaladin's depression, a sickness of the mind that must be battled, but not something that would push most spren away. Maybe an elsecaller or skybreaker spren would disaprove, since that would make it harder for the Radiant to keep a level head and be rational or impartial. And why a highspren, of all things, would bond a junkie? They are probably one of the spren types who would care about that.

How about we change the subject as fast as we can? We could argue wich is Szeth's House! According to the sorting hat tumblr he would probably be a Ravenclaw, most likely one who has fallen after being forced to not adapt his moral-philosophical system in order to fit new nformation, first trying to keep some "truth" in his personal universe by denying anything that contradicted it and later breaking down and actualy falling when he found out it was false. Of course, that is what that tumblr page says. I'd wager he would be a Slytherin in the books, or just enter whatever house his parents were.

But wasn't it actualy based on nearby cognitive aspects? Like, asking everything the bubble intersects with when it is created for an anchor? And choosing whatever created it as a last resource?If it works as I said, you would only need to leave the atmosphere to have your bubbles centered on the ship. No real trick to it, only somehow discovering how time bubbles work when suspended in a vacuum.

Teft got excited when telling what the Radiants could do and when he was called out on why they would fly if they could teleport he admited he didn't know. That doens't strike me as being fully sure.

I never said I was discarting my theory, just revising some aspects. On another thread I was also reminded that my theory didn't explain why humans are needed to keep Odium in Braize and syphon his powers.

Very well, you got me. There are as much holes in that assumption as there are in the assumption Honor and Odium made a deal. Re-read time!

He didn't say it was him, but I don't think there is any evidence that points toward someone else. Of course, maybe I am wrong.

According to my theory, the Heralds syphon power from Odium while in damnation with their Honorblades, and he is only strong enough to send his investiture to Roshar after the Heralds Return and a bridge is estabilished, and the prision is re-sealed when at least one Herald travels back. I think this desolation is worse because with only one Herald in Braize Odium was able to muster enough power yo send dome of the unmade to Roshar before the desolation even started and to create the Everstorm after it began. Forcing Odium to choose a champion would be more like the conflict in Mistborn, with the Shards fighting indirectly using just a few agents. Preservation choose Rashek to hold Ruin at bay. Ruin used Kelsier to kill Rashek. All according to Leras' plan. Preservation choose Vin as a sucessor. Ruin tried to use Marsh to kill her and it backfired. Vin sent Elend where he was needed. Ruin used Marsh to kill him. And died. Forcing Odium to choose a champion is convincing him that betting on a single agent is his best chance, and that he should give that agent tools or knowledge that may be used against him. Then watching the agent fail or betray Odium.

Teft is very knowledgeable... For a bridgeman. Someone has read the in-world book Words of Radiance would probably know more than him in some areas, since he was unsure if all Radiants got all powers or not. Someone who studied the Silver Kingdoms could tell more about the First Oath. Dalinar could talk hours about Nohadon's philosophy. Jasnah is Jasnah. The Stone Shamans clearly know more about the mechanics of surgebinding than him.Teft knows things he shouldn't. But at this point, that hardly means he is anything more than a former menber of a secret society/cult. EDIT: Also, why does anyone think Honor and Odium had a deal? As far as we know, Odium could have been imprisioned and the Desolations could be his attempt to get out.

Yeah, we don't even know if Kaladin's eyes will ever become permanently light. However, dead shardblades are a different matter, since what we have seen with Moash suggests they change your eye color permanently. And we know those who got shardblades were those willing to murder for them. It isn't unfair to assume many of Roshar's current lighteyed ruling houses are descended from those shardbearers who became warlords and went on a conquering spree. This makes me curious thought: how old is the Kholin House? Is Kholinar named after them, or did their house take that name to link them to the Dawncity they rule, former capital of Alethela? For how long did the city have that name?

No, you got it wrong. The Alethi would never accept a lighteyed slave. Rock is a darkeyed relative to a most likely darkeyed lord of the peaks.

Sorry if I seemed upset. As I feared, this kind of discussion can spark a more confrontional side in people. As for why your question about me being a parent upset me... Well, I fear this argument will never end if we allow it to last a little longer, so I leave this unexplained if you allow me.

There are two points I would like to make before I abandon this discussion. The first is that while I don't have children, it doens't really matter for the context of this discussion, for I am saying my opinions now, bot the ones I may have later(althought I would rather keep my current morality even if I do have children some day, no matter how hard it will be). I believe that whatever some choice is moral or not does not depend on the personal feelings, alegiances and bonds of the one deciding, but how it affects others and the world. I value imparciality and altruism. No favorites or exceptions. I do not have anything against those who think differently, because this model of morality is something I see as impossible and unhealty to follow completely, being more something to seek and aspire to than to actualy reach.Second: Dalinar is very narrow-minded. As I said before in my edit, the only choices he could see were sacrificing his son or what he (wrongly) saw as sacrificing Roshar's long term survival. Could have called of the duel and given away his shards, but he overestimated the consequences of that. It is like when a hero is faced with two horrible choices, until he notices one is obviously right or that there is a third option. Except this time the hero couldn't notice because he was to blinded by fear to see one of them wasn't as bad as he thought. The question is not wich of the present options was the greater evil, but wich of the options Dalinar saw was the greater evil. Now I think it is better to let this drop, OK? I respect your view and I am not trying to change it. It would be horrible if this thread turned into a long winded morality discussion after wich everyone hates one another for how twisted our moral moral compasses are. Hating is bad. EDIT: I may also have overstated my opinions. The Assuredness Movement and all that. Please don't stab me.

Then we will have to agree to disagree. One should never let his feelings for a person get on the way when so many other people are at risk in my opinion.But I also don't fully agree with the idea that the ends don't justify the means when we are talking about something as big as the decimation of humanity, so call me Diagramist if you wish. EDIT: Of course, this depends on how you view that fight. Dalinar truly didn't think it thought, and I believe he overstated how important it was and was foolish to not surrender. But from his point of view, it was damning his son now or the world later. It was a foolish plan, and it wasn't a good choice to make his son such a target. I only think it was moraly right to put the fate of the world above the lifes of his family, not that he wasn't wrong. One can do what is moraly right while still making a wrong choice due to foolishness and misinformation.

I wouldn't say that is a bad thing. The fate if Alethkar, no, of the entire world could depend on his capacity to unite Alethkar as far as he knew. As his son said, the nation was not ready to lose him. Very few would want Dalinar to die instead of Adolin, and no one would like if both died uselessly. What Dalinar did was the the right choice, even if an unpleasant one.

Actualy, they would still have to carry a link to the Dor, or a splinter(not quite the right term, but...) of it. Of course, they have all the time in the world to guess how to do it, since Elantris happens hundreds of years before the Mistborn original triology.

It is "Through the fire and flames", isn't it? "And on the wings of a dream, so far beyond reality..." EDIT: But I don't want your cookie! I will call the Light Alley(if there is such a thing) if you try to force it upon(or into) me.

It was using his own knife, but it is fully confirmed in the book Renarin did it. Did you miss the scene he asked the Almighty why he was cursed with seeing the future itself and started writing zeroes as the Everstorm started? Or when he noticed the wind was blowing in the wrong way and name-dropped the Everstorm some chapters before Pattern said the Stormform Listeners were building a storm? One that would collide with an unexpected highstorm?EDIT: not that I meant to call you dumb or anything. Most people missed the hints. On topic: How that surge would make people sleep? By being reversed like a fabrial and diminishing their stamina and endurance?

Even though it would be difficulty(not impossible, there were enough hints for a guess) to find out Jasnah was an Elsecaller, it was always clear she had a mastery over Shadesmar much above Shallan's. For those who supposed entering Shadesmar was not a mental journey or astral projection, but actualy entering there with your physical aspect, then it would be possible to guess she had escaped. Of course, maybe it would be less jarring if we got a short chapter showing her in the middle of Shadesmar in her way to one of the great spren cities. With everyone coming from the dead at the end I sometimes feel like it would be better for Eshonai to have died and for Adolin's blade to remain dead. And for Kaladin to lose his right hand in some way Stormlight can't heal.