Kasimir

I had thought you were Maili or Sart, TBH. I just ruled you out automatically because we didn't spend enough time paranoiding/tunneling on each other. This was literally my reasoning in certain identity guessing games: "We're not screaming at each other enough for you to be Bard." Sigh. The time I don't try to type chaotically and you instantly clock me... Oof

Come for the highstorm raves, stay for the anagrams

do u know how much effort it took to type chaotically and be like O LOOK AT ME PREEEEETYTY BIRB!!! 8D 8D in another AN I took part in? >> Really was not worth it. I spent so much time, and now I'm like 'eh if y'all clock me y'all clock me sorry not sorry but I'm not wasting hours of my life just to get NKed C1 again.'

I knew. Anonymity not maintained on my part due to...oh, uh, two Oops moments (thanks El), and one previous Anonymous Game in which I spent a lot of time hiding my identity and then got killed C1. It really didn't seem worth the effort and I've not bothered since. (Also, Fifth kept outing me, and he says something about a distinctive voice so...) Holding off on comments and wrap-up RP as well, but as always, thank you for running the game @little wilson and @Elbereth - especially Wilson. It's a sobering thought that the last time you GMed me, I had freshly joined SE and was just out of having wet myself while being an inexperienced first game Elim and cracking so badly under pressure Been seven good years now, and it's been...interesting Thank you for the brilliant writeup, @Fifth Scholar. I'm really thrilled you used some of my writing for the write-up, and I love the way it blends with a plot by your characters. To certain docmates, thanks for the anagrams, shrekman, and chess. It's been fun

Sign me up for another LG, please I know the queue is long and I have an idea already so might as well get in there.

Me recently in SE: (This was originally an academia meme but I thought it was appropriate.)

I'd be interested in a spec doc. But the last time I signed up for a Rithmatist game, it didn't go well for me. And other reasons. So spec it shall be.

One of us! One of us! Favourite nib size?

Interesting though - I'm right after you and Straw for a MR, though I do already have a MR set-up, just need to get approval, so if Straw's whipping something up, might be better anyway as I'm likely going to take the LG slot after Sart, if El passes.

One response to this is @Alvron's, which I'd say is worth reading because he used to get some flak for being a quiet watcher. Another comment I'd credit to @Araris Valerian is that a number of us have moved away from our previous playstyles before. We usually comment in sign-ups or pre-game, to give people an idea of our activity level or how we intend to play. It's an imperfect system - players do still get suspicion for it, as far as I can see, but historically-speaking, we've fought hard for players to have the right to play the game with their own playstyle, or at least to be able to shift their playstyle to something they prefer without getting immediately killed for it. And players should get the benefit of the doubt - I'd hate to get ganked myself just because people wonder why I suddenly do more PMing and stop screaming at people who send PMs to me, or just because I've stopped being as aggressive and obsessively-focused as I used to be. Everyone wants to change or try something new at some point and people should get to do that. (To a point: there's a very interesting comment from @little wilson in a LG12 debate here which discusses what happens when one particular chaotic player had a history of turning on his own faction. There's a third incident that's not mentioned in that comment, I believe. Note that blue text used to be used for OOC rather than RL stuff so the mountains of blue there are just sticklers not RPing. I don't fully agree with past!Wilson, but I do want to highlight that this issue keeps cropping up again and again, about permissiveness for playstyles.) It also gives an opportunity to discuss and deconflict certain aspects of what you're doing that you think might be controversial before a game. Deconflicting is always good. I personally feel the analysis pressure often, and to some extent, you kind of have to do some: it's a social deduction game at heart. But @Burnt Spaghetti has infamously played by rolling dice or using a player as her spotter before. It's just how she rolls. I've RNGesused for players I vote on as well on occasion. I used to, in my early days, be very negative on gut. And I really think I was way too harsh - gut isn't necessarily inferior. Some players have very good gut reads. (IIRC Joe was one of them.) But the issue in the game is you have to remember you're playing with a community, which always brings a pro-social dimension - in other words, if there's selection pressure against gut reads, it's because other players generally want you to help them read you. And gut reads makes that job harder. Ultimately as Alv said, I think that's partly a matter of balance. Don't feel obligated to play a certain way just because players are on you for it. Play it your way. But also remember you are playing in a community, and be mindful of that in your interactions. As a player who doesn't often play, I don't know how bad it is for players who can't go in thread with not being serious. I haven't experienced problems on that front, but...I don't play often, and it's an established part of my playstyle that I have a troll/banter/mischievous side. Then again, most of the players in recent games haven't played with me, so I don't know either if this tolerance for sudden unseriousness is baked into our meta, or if they're just giving me the benefit of the doubt because they've never played with me before. Backstabbing talk...needs more room that this post can give. I'll come to it some other time, but I wanted to address the immediate playstyle talk first.

Understandable, and this hobby definitely isn't a race but a journey. Journey over destination and all that You use the pens that you like and that make you happy and that don't ruin your finances, and that's all it should get to!

I... I think I found a pen worth saving for, especially if you already have spare JoWo nibs or ground JoWo nibs. Check this one out. Beautiful... They apparently do their own motifs too, like peacocks

Three points, and I'll hold my peace, as I've been long enough the person who keeps ranting about how 'y'all need a community conversation' everytime something keeps coming up. Ethos: You all need - as a community - to have a conversation about the kind of norms you want, the kind of behaviours you expect from everyone. I cannot emphasise this enough. If there is any takeaway from my points at all, please, please, please let it be this. I cannot decide how the community works. No one voice can. No two, three voices of old players remembering times past or new players talking about how things are Elsewhere can. This conversation must, of necessity, include most, if not all of the community. You can enforce norms by fiat but the only way to sustainably shape your community culture is by having actual stakeholder buy-in. The process of discourse is the process of negotiation and discovering what the norms are, or: what do we want, how are we going to get what we want, what should everybody do to get what we want. This is the point I feel strongest about. Mythos: The storylines came under fire for being exclusive but I wonder if there's a more localised way to do it, as it gave people something to latch on to as well, or to get involved/invested in. Perhaps less of the original elaborate mythos that included El's serpents, but it seems to me something was lost with the mythos as well. People shouldn't feel intimidated to get on board but being part of building that huge mythos could be a good thing. Here, I'm biased, as I'm a RPer at heart. Commitment: Everyone needs to commit. Everyone. It takes two hands to clap. And a whole huge pile of bricks to build a home. Every single member is part of building the community space. Communities are mutable and shift over time. Demand the same of everyone. And look to the structures of your community first and foremost when asking yourself how to build a better gamespace. -Kas out. Edit: Someone asked, so - I say you because I don't really feel a part of the SE community and haven't in a very long time. I don't say this as something to be pitied or begging for acceptance; I say it as a matter of fact about how I feel. It just so happens that my time has come and gone, and most of the people anchoring me to this community have left. I wander in and wander out like tumbleweed but my exasperation is that of an observer - one day, my last anchor will leave, and I'll stop playing. It will be a loss to neither of us.

Happy to pass on this occasion. Fairly preoccupied at the moment with work.

Hah. Actually, no. I opportunistically use all three depending, though my favoured one is Chrome at the moment. So you can't go a day without drowning in exploit and vulnerability news, but one yardstick I tend to use is if the US CISA (Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency) is actively asking users to patch. So there was a really bad one yesterday (I think - sorry, timezones) so was just popping up to remind all browser fanatics to remember to update their browsers

PSA: Chrome, Edge, Firefox - doesn't matter, serious vulnerability announced, remember to patch, everyone! Time for me to go back to skulking.

Striker Kalebane, Terror of GMs, and the Shield of the Execution has entered the chat Gaze upon his sign-up post ye GMs and tremble.

Might, if time permits, but we're entering a busy period and QFs are typically intense so I mightn't break hiatus/retirement for it. I'd watch you break TJ - sorry, I mean TJ's game though

GDI. I just saw this and now I'm...I'm closing the tab Fair enough! Important thing in the hobby is to pace yourself anyway, rather than going wild with purchases. Harder in these pandemic times but pen meets are a great way to try different pens without buying, either. Sounds good then! You should be pretty much set with your current set-up. And as @Slowswift says, always good to welcome another person to the cult club

#becauseimolddamnit #andithinkthisistwitter

Welcome to the addiction! Jinhao isn't a bad bunch of starter pens, depending on your personal preference though you may need to tune it sometimes. (Lots of great resources online though - SBRE Brown and The Pen Habit come to mind.) Jinhao Fine actually matches Western Fines - it's the Japanese nibs that are a size smaller but I don't think you'll have problems with HP Premium32 paper. There's a lot of posts on good lower-end papers on hobbyist forums. If you're in it for paper that can 'take' fountain pen ink from a F or EF nib and you don't care about ink shading or sheen, then you have even more options Nice to find someone else who drafts by hand, though! And sounds like you have a great assortment of inks. Noodlers' tends to be the most value-for-money if you're in CONUS - otherwise, Diamine is great too. Enjoy your journey and hit us up with your experiences!

Indeed, and @ me when you do I'll drool over the images and read the book!

I get this! A friend of mine has a 149 OBB and I'm drooling over that firehose even though my handwriting is small so it would be a disaster For Nakaya, the question is not whether 'all of them' is an acceptable answer but whether it's acceptable to your wallet Storms though - autumn leaves is really beautiful. and I've just learned from the local Nakaya stockist that Nakaya can take custom orders too, which... Oof Agreed on Dorsal Fins, though I might also long for a Piccolo or Piccolo Writer myself The local stockist has a unique Nakaya - a Long Piccolo but I kind of prefer the smaller one >>

Oh, fair enough! It's never been page-catchy to me either, that's my TWSBI. But my first Sailor was smoother than my Pel and surprised me. Hahaha, what a slip! I understand you though: Nakaya is pining goals. My friend let me try her Elastic Coarse Nakaya and I've since been thinking, "Oh storms, I'm going to fall hard for one of these one day, aren't I?" (Fortunately the one Nakaya that might have devastated my wallet is no longer in production - mizu-iro.) Any Nakayas/Montblancs you pining over in particular?

This has become increasingly important for me Or, failing that, running it past Striker Kalebane, or Aonar - one of those people with a penchant for breaking your games.