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  1. Kasimir
    Uh...you were questioning the Xino train and also you felt Szeth was Evil no?
  2. Kasimir
    Me: "I'll vote Xino" Me: >promptly forgets to vote Look I'm sleep-deprived rn. Xino I'm working with my 2s vibes list from a couple of hours ago, so not really willing to but can be talked into it. Edited to add: FYI probably willing to vote Elan as well. Not enough time/SAN on my end but if someone can compare to her MR53 behaviour, would be great. She was converted there.
  3. Kasimir
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don't feel strongly enough to fight for Szeth past the exhaustion and I respect you have a gut that way, but I believe you're making the same mistake you claim players make about you. Brave of you to think I'm a Russian learner I read The Brothers Karamazov in English after we took the excerpt of Ivan and Alyosha discussing about the existence of God (cf. The Grand Inquisitor) for the Problem of Evil segment in Philosophy 101. FWIW I still think Mackie is a better introduction to the Problems of Evil, but if you're really teaching it at a low undergrad level, I guess Dostoevsky is probably better at motivating it. K. Still have work, Archer's now on Szeth, and I low key don't want to CW Araris. Though ngl I still feel ? about Araris's opening Szeth vote aaaaaaaaaa. I'll vote Xino. This is probably as close as I can get in terms of someone I can feel okay voting. Someone @ me if I'm needed to change trains or anything; otherwise I'm going back to my report and crying inside because it will never get done at this rate.
  4. Kasimir
    Worth flagging this because this was V!Xino - he's had early self-pres votes before, which I figured after digging late into EoD. So IDK which is more pertinent: the early vote with mistake in LG91 from E!Xino, or the LG90 early self-pres. I've felt V!Xino can be more responsive/helpful so @ during the Night for his rationale as to why Alpha over Turtle (both legit self-pres trains) to get a better sense of him but he hasn't replied, and I'm less fond of his ghosting the thread.
  5. Kasimir
    It's a long dead doc but the exchange I remember is wrt to Szeth talking with me and someone else about whether you can let Elims submit pre-/in absentia- actions and how much we should account for unforeseeable as opposed to foreseeable RL stuff and the GM's perspective. IMO that sort of talk isn't weird coming from Szeth. Ctrl+fing for that and Tani might be faster, IDK.
  6. Kasimir
    I haven't slept and still have this cursed report which has been given to me in light of my diploma :/ Fiiine I'll stop whining and give it a first pass. I'll come back and try to be more coherent, but due to time cosnstraints, it's probably important for me to say something first. I've probably made some comment about this earlier in the game - lemme look in a sec - but the short of it is I feel Szeth is sort of the type of player who is easy to misunderstand and ML because he just kind of says weird drek. I can sort of see a world in which he's just Gorilla-ing but it doesn't feel like the right read of his actions IMO. My thoughts summarised: Caveat: Szeth's last bunch of E! games were Gorilla (AG8) and QF54 that I can recall so that's forever ago. The data I'm working off is more wrt recent Village games, e.g. MR61, LG91, and QF66. Feel Szeth tends to be more proactive as a Villager - case in point, QF66, LG91. Active in PMs, less rules thoughts (cf. AG8 Gorilla), more willingness to solve, more 'live' thread presence. Has tapered off by now, but my rationale for thinking Szeth's alignment probably hasn't changed just boils down to 'converting a guy under fire doesn't really seem like a great idea.' You can't judge him by say, me for prolificity, but I feel he's showing up and dropping thoughts, cf. D2 tunnel on me. Me-tunnel. I just felt the reasoning and reluctance to let go of it was very Szeth - cf. Szeth's Archer tunnel in LG79 (I think? The one Mat ran where I kind of maybe damned the Village against E!Araris and Szeth hard-tunnelled both Archer and me to the point he kept calling me Evil even after I flipped Village.) I feel Gorilla was a bit less willing to stick out and hard-commit. Cf. Szeth's Night 'tbh still think maybe Kas sus.' Note: Don't feel Elim would be as willing to sus someone defending them - no u is a real reflex on some players & feels pertinent in light of Szeth's category. On Szeth says weird things: IIRC he made a contentious Sith or Jedi claim in MR61 he got exed for (I will check this later to confirm), in LG91 he had the famous bribe people with pizza to vote me, and in QF66 he tried to stimulate discussion by asking people who they'd kill if they were Evil which was a real ??? moment for the dead doc, whom I then trolled into believing E!Szeth. I guess partly a gut/tone thing too. He just feels sincere about it. Fundamentally I do feel if you want a better read on Szeth, early LG91 is crucial. Would actually argue it does showcase more typical V!TBB well as well. If I've time, I'll come back and source this. (Ah who am I kidding it'll probably beat reading this report drek...) I guess let's try something real quick, just for the road: Village: Null: Evil: I have never done a readslist so disgraceful in my life but ok. This is more or less spur of the moment, 'you have 2 seconds to chunk them in a box, where do you go' raw stuff. I can see an E!Szeth world, I'm just not comfortable with it, and I've tried to lay out the reasons behind my thoughts. I'd rather go for someone in my nulls. Wiz is negotiable, yeah.
  7. Kasimir
    Hi. Edited to add: I don't find it out of character given his LG91 dead doc.
  8. Kasimir
    I'll note FUD tend to be an E!Mat tell/tactic, as is Mat's willingness to be proactive in engaging the direction of the lynch. I'd watch for Mat doing reads erosion into mid-game. Also perspective slips depending on how the game is going. Potentially dampened by the fact Mat is lower activity than usual but I think the good comparator for busy!V!Mat is LG91, since that was pretty much the case there. Defensiveness remains a good tell I think. Depending. IDK. There's kind of one more E!Mat tell that I've been holding back on for a rainy day but I'm keeping it in mind. Rich, coming from you of all people. I'm questioning this. K, this makes it at least four people confirmed to have been off-world last Turn and y'all wonder why you can't free Shards. I say this as I acknowledge I have no intention of returning to Silverlight if I can get away with it because Shards are Evil and Adonalsium should stay dead and the rational mind must reject God in the face of the fundamental evil, suffering, and the brokenness of the world-as-it-is-in-experience. Edited to add: Like c'mon seriously? I've been squatting on planets dealing in recreational substances since D1 and dancing. Not saying you shouldn't engage with the game how you want to but I fundamentally just don't get this attitude. Shards are roles. Fancy, OP roles. Still just roles. People going kayana over them probably is some sort of throwback to Roshar going nuts over Shardblades and Shardplate and forgetting that there's life without them. There's still just a base game, existing, reading, applying pressure, being read - all of these help the Village. No one has to engage with the fancy Shard overlayer to be fundamentally helpful or do our bit. I legit do not get this. If the base game is not good, Village Shards won't get enough info to target. They'll be dependent on luck, given the paucity of scans. This is not ideal for the Village. K I promised myself I wouldn't rant or care because caring is the first step to disappointment but whatever I suppose I'd make a crap Jedi. Like y'all really want to go raw faction game? Us against full stacked factions where the lynch is a joke because we're just voting whoever is not in our faction? Thing is, we lose that game because if we're Village we don't know. That sort of scenario is the best for Hoid, Khriss, and Bavadin. IRDGI and I really should just stop sticking my nose into this, be good, and finish that kriffing report.
  9. Kasimir
    Need to head back to the report. Immune system seems to be a welcome mat after COVID because sick again RIP. Will try to get RP out sometime but had a few thoughts to drop due to thread. Thoughts: The thing for me is this actually pushed me away from E!Araris if only because Araris lives for being Evil. I guess that and the fact that my vote for Araris was a H/K/B profile vote. I don't really recall Araris ever sounding out of it in an E game. I have remembered him being out of things in a V game, most prominently LG94. But this is once again tempered with the fact that I keep warning players I like playing with Araris and this tends to distort my reads in favour of not finding him Evil even when I shouldn't (LG83, LG93 :sob:), so maybe I'm not the guy to be listening to here. I don't disagree but it feels like a quintessential Archer take. He has this thing where he just likes to sometimes default read talky people Village under the assumption that they'll say enough incriminating things later on. But IDK if that's what's going on here. I admit I am deliberately trying very hard not to think about Archer at this point because I either hard-commit at this point to doing a past-games deep dive on him, or I simply watch. And I kind of don't want to put in the time for that first one. I don't disagree with this assessment but I remember backing a Xino ML at least twice on inactivity grounds after the donut, only to find that Xino was Village. One of the games this happened in sticks out to me as QF64 - the other probably has to be sometime in the future, but I mightn't mind digging that one up as much as it basically has to be after LG91 and QF64. As a result, I wouldn't really feel comfortable simply going on the grounds of the donut yet again without a subsequent read. I will note this is compelling in light of the fact Xino doesn't seem fundamentally interested in votes/comments/flags at him, though. Doc profile stuff more or less. Something TBB keeps saying as a rule of thumb which I accept and I believe V!TBB acknowledged to be true in LG94 is that generally, V!TBB takes some time to get on his feet. He's had higher activity/contribution games before, but also lower ones. In general, V!TBB will find some way of being helpful to the Village or contributive by the third cycle. If that's pretty missing or if he isn't saying or doing much Village-sided by that cut-off, it's a fair shout to depress your read of him. At this point, I will say I probably have him as a null or null+ - I don't really know why, I don't feel comfortable with a stronger placement at this point, so I will simply go with what feels okay. I like this post. V!points for thinking about how to screw Hoid over. Agreed it's technically K/B compatible, but again, JNV's tell. If I change my vote, I'll change it after my report is done, but I still think @The Wandering Wizard is either Chameleoning, or in a doc.
  10. Kasimir
    I regret to inform u it is still not finished But there has been Progress journey before destination right (also i really needed slep lol) the only right way 2 village in this game for real It's called 'actually attending a rave.' Or: when Autonomy loves themselves very much, a minor Autonomy is formed on a world, and anyone who is on that world gets to talk with the new kid in the world doc! RIP Araris Wiz - the only thing I remember of you is showing up to declare Mat Autonomy. Not necessarily fond of this. (Side-question to table: this thread isn't the place but if I don't take it down now, I won't remember it for meta whenever. It usually #feelsbad to exe someone with activity problems or with difficulties otherwise but if you suspect them, then arguably it's a minimum damage exe. Is it ethically acceptable? Because ngl that usually gets me to back off if my main basis for suspicion is activity-based.)
  11. Kasimir
    ok, fair well then fight them on flat ground! but sir this power this terribly Evil power will u set it aside once this crisis has abated do u love democracy :eyes: prolly b/c it's more interesting to me than the lynch rn like k i guess i can Araris there we go just vote someone in my PoE who I don't have any positive read of any inflection on @DeTess Did log back in to say FWIW I appreciate you (if Village) reining back on my willingness to just make the read and revise later as I feel people sheep me too much sometimes and then bad things happen and I feel guilty and overdo games. Even if I don't seen to change my terrible ways of just making the judgement call and committing to revise rather than withholding judgement, I appreciate it. Aight, party order sent. ty good luck murdering Autonomy for great justice ok back to report for reals .-.
  12. Kasimir
    @DrakeMarshall u ok with Roshar, or u prefer Scadrial? Edited to add: k tbh bowing out of thread until report is done. I've had zero motivation to work on it and I've been tired all week and the Mysterious Kill~ had excited me to try to crack what was going on but I need to get it done before Bad Things Happen. Goodbye all please yell at me if you see me on the Shard before I say it is Done.
  13. Kasimir
    From what? Honor charges? If there were that many, wouldn't Honor have already been broken out? Prudence charges only take effect an entire cycle later, and don't protect from Odium or Ruin - that has to be a relevant threat assessment on the part of the defending Villager. Killing the more consistently Village-read now is more workable than doing so later when the full arsenal of Shards are consolidated in Village hands, I'd argue. It's pretty much Mat's rationale behind early noise kills. You do give up on a cycle of tempo though, and that's significant in the world they lack both Ruin and Odium, as this leaves only a single member trying to break a Shard free last Night. You yourself (I believe) called the importance of grabbing Honor, which would greatly reduce their chances of getting it. And in a world where Ruin does indeed attempt to destroy Braize (which is, presumably, the main reason for the rush,) Ruin has IDed them by now. Am I 100% certain it's a Village shot? No. I'd agree on that. But I'm more willing to say it's one than I am to think it's Evil on balance. I'd be willing to rethink if there's suspicious or weird behaviour from the Shooter, or if the Shooter isn't who I think it is. This I think is fundamentally like our disagreement on LG94 Mat again. I'm willing to be wrong about this and to revise my read on the Shooter - I just don't see a reason not to V read them right now and revise if I find reason to subsequently. If Fifth is right about the conversion being withheld in any case, then revision is practically necessary. Edited to add: That's actually why I feel Drake isn't a good Elim shot. The very profile you are referring to is the ideal H/K/B profile: too under the radar to be noticed, but just Village enough to not attract attention or get voted on or mentioned. That's exactly the right place to hide. I don't believe the Elims need to be wedded to alliance and they could indeed embrace a strategy of eliminating the other factions ruthlessly to generate Village cred, but I also don't think that's the sort of strategy that's as attractive from the outset.
  14. Kasimir
    I mean...couldn't you just kill them? Wouldn't you consider this an unfair advantage sir :eyes: I mean...they could give it to me... I would yeet it so hard into containment the doors be vibratin' Elrond was right. All Shards are Evil and must be Contained.
  15. Kasimir
    Ngl I'm still low key convinced you are piano... That piano piece was diabolical >:(
  16. Kasimir
    Why would Hoid go to Braize? Braize is useless to him as he cannot kill. Why would Khriss go to Braize? She has a double siphon and a conversion, both of which are actions that are better off on Silverlight. Why would any evil faction member leave Silverlight for Braize? Suppose that there was no conversion last Night (Fifth's theory) - leaving Silverlight for Braize cedes Shards to the Village for a single kill. Doesn't feel super worth it. And this reduces their faction to just H/K + other member which they'll feel more than the Village. Villager is probably more willing to leave Silverlight for Braize due to faction number issues. Haven't said anything about Bavadin, this is true. Does Drake seem like the standard Evil kill target to you? Honestly he was in my nulls. (Also in the world where Evil is holding back on conversions and therefore killing, you'd expect them to want to leave juicy targets alive rather than be left with poor choices in midgame to endgame - imagine being forced to choose between inactives/low actives because the actives are Vessels.) In general my view is that Evil is lacking in numbers and tempo - going to Braize gives up a tempo, and the kill victimology doesn't match this. Drake wasn't clearly V enough, and you'd expect Evil to also be more careful about shooting because Other Faction and Bavadin make for useful scapegoats to draw Village flak and Bavadin can be a useful ally as they can win with Bavadin - Village cannot. Have a further theory about the shot I'm not sharing with the class for now for reasons, but in general, feel this is contributory However, that being said, my assumption was done just to point out that in the world that everyone of the three known to not be on Braize is Village, Village actually has more depleted numbers on Silverlight than you'd really expect. That's almost enough to free one Shard right there. Edited to add: I suppose this ties back to something either you or Fifth said, but I CBA to scroll for it, which I felt was a bit Village: that the Village is pretty uncoordinated, which...yes and no? Looking back, we can agree. I'm not really sure this is an assumption Elims feel comfortable making because Elim fog-of-war is real - just look at how much damage Archer did in the QF I just ran (QF66) organising the Village behind the Elim's backs. At least, I don't know if I feel that assumption emerges as naturally for an Elim. Elim blindness is very real but at the same time, if there are plenty of docs and PMs and they don't know what's going on, do they feel all that comfortable banking that the Village isn't coordinating somewhere they can't see? IDK.
  17. Kasimir
    Don't ask me, I totally was into this normal person rave disco tour thing, but then Autonomy's Avatars crashed the rave ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  18. Kasimir
    k not gonna lie to u bro Autonomy is Evil af sure, but their avatars are pretty fun they have the annoying thing where everytime u suggest something fun like recreational substances they'll remind u they're minors but other than that they're pretty fun to hang with and there's a lot of moshing in the pit :eyes: and Scadrian metal honestly makes me wish we didn't have to be against each other you know there's something to be said for pragmatism yea u totally did im callin it there is no world u didn't find the weirdest infodealer shard & go 'i want that one' :eyes:
  19. Kasimir
    You want to head out to Scadrial? Got a feeling that if you're V!Odium, the E!flak's gonna be headed your way. Or we could pick a weirder adventure, sure. Lemme guess you went for Whimsy :eyes: It sensed your kill streak...
  20. Kasimir
    I expect them to be pretty much filled out, yes. Whether they go for maximum coordination or not, IDK but I guess we'll see. If we assume for the moment that I'm Village, and STINK is, and the Braize Shooter (my theory) is, that's at least three Village-side players refusing to be on Silverlight, which feels like a decent chunk, alongside with the two Villagers already dead. I don't reasonably feel they can be denied Shards soon, and feel that Frost should be on the ball with Containment Watch to give us a PoE, preferably via Ruin if Frost can get in touch with him. It's true they could have adapted to low Village coordination, but again: why not then force-break the Shards and then appear to simply be lucky Villagers? Everyone is expecting the Village to succeed first in getting Shards, so there's nothing unusual there. In fact, on the other end, I'd argue there's more pressure on them, not less, when there are more Shards in Containment, because we are closer to our SD wincon (theoretically in Shard numbers - agreed hunting down Hoid and Khriss is no easy task; hopefully Drake can help us out with finding Bavadin.) Either way I don't really see why you think there's such a need to be coy. The strength of this game is that there are so many options we're really just going to have to see what strategy the Elims are going for and then adapt to it, but the same for them when it comes to us. But I will never not give a player a hard stare when they play up trust/read instability paranoia due to confusion because that's the same erosion strategy E!me went for, and you should remember that game very well. Edited to add: Due to conversion - guess I'm the confused one here.
  21. Kasimir
    нет. Is why I immediately ruled out Scadrial as an option and figured it had to be Vessel Shield (perm/temp) or Honor.
  22. Kasimir
    Doesn't that require them to anticipate there won't be that many Vessels in a game where the entire premise (for most people not me, because I have read Dostoevsky and determined that all Shards are Evil!) is - get Shards, gain ultimate cosmic power? Also means their team is at a disavantage when it comes to collecting Shards. I could see it but it doesn't feel extremely viable in the landscape such that I wouldn't ascribe high probability to it unless someone like you/Drake/Wiz are Hoid/Khriss. Edited to add: IDK bro I don't disagree with the reasoning but you're sounding an awful lot like E!me claiming I didn't want to claim to anyone because "what if you got converted by a oneshot" in MR62.
  23. Kasimir
    I feel like if you are still asking, you need to ask that question of the rules instead... Edited to add: Smh clear discrimination have u considered finding a lawyer Yeah I enjoyed the peace while it lasted
  24. Kasimir
    Wow u r hatoful Shard boy??? smh of all Shards you went for the most Evil one? >> Where do u wanna meet bro the DAOist tRAVEling circus is currently chilling in the Scadrian mosh pit dealing - well I was dealing with Autonomy's minors but then DeTess took them off my hands so I guess we can do the R-21 tour now :eyes: Edited to add: no juice??? how do they even ensure travellers have a good time smh Edited to add: Do you expect them to have done anything other than blow the last conversion last Night?
  25. Kasimir
    what sorta things do they make you see the purple squinty glowing round polka dot turtles like the juice they were handing out on Roshar
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