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Lol that would still produce the effect of burning the metal continually which would ultimately result in savantism, so sure that could work. At that point Wax is a savant and can choose to exclude metals. That is why I raised the concern regarding lurchers surrounded by a tank. Unless they were a savant, they would see the tank as one giant piece of metal completely surrounding them. I am unsure how they could see bits of metal flying around outside of a metal box with metal sight, and pull on them without being a savant first.

This goes into mistborn spoilers, and I will reference them if requested, but a character mentions that as long as someone is "open" enough (in that case the person was "insane") they can be influenced/contacted by shards or investiture entities. A certain shard in another book did that a whole lot without even needing its magic system involved. Odium in stormlight mentioned how using the Thrill for a long time to prepare Sadeas's men, and them being enraged by Sadeas's death all coupled allowed them to be "open" for the spren to "hop in". So it was tied to their emotional state which allowed them to be influenced.

Gotta run but a quick few responses that I will elaborate on tomorrow I guess my problem is how much rope and leeway you give Amaram for his every action despite what he has done multiple times across all three novels. edit: added a few more bits to my post.

Taln was already dead by the time Kalak walked up. So she had already technically left him the moment she decided to not go back.

You might be misunderstanding my point. When Wax pushes as a steel bubble, or in general around him, he keeps his own metal near his body so it is excluded in the push. Same thing for a Lurcher. The metal plate is on the chest, so is excluded from the pull. Now if you place a regular lurcher in basically a metal box, how is the lurcher could to: 1. see the metal with their metal sight when they are surrounded by metal 2. exclude the metal box from their pull assuming they could reach beyond it? A savant, due to flaring their metal/using their metal constantly, can separate parts of a metal object. So they would be able to pull on different parts of the tank, though I am still unsure whether or not they could pull outside that metal box. But blindfolding would not result in a savant. Unless you are talking about a tineye that is, and he or she is still flaring their metal lol.

Found the scene! (it is a little long so I will jump around regarding the parts specific in the mirror and drawing) Way of Kings Page 639 She paused. She rarely did sketches of herself. They felt strange to draw. "All right" SHe took the sphere, then furtively tucked it into her safepounch, beside her soulcaster.... "Hold it up beside your head" Shallan said "so I can see myself" He walked back over, doing so, looking confused. "Angle it to the side a little" Shallan said "all right, there." She blinked, freezing in her mind the image of her face beside his. "Have a seat. You don't need the mirror any longer. I just wanted it for reference - it helps me for some reason to place my features into the scene I want to sketch. I'll put myself sitting beside you." Sketching herself in beside him was challenging. SHe worked furiously, blending the reality of Kabsal sitting and a fiction of herself, in her flower - embroidered dress, sitting with her legs to the side. The face in the mirror became her reference point, and she built her head around it. Too narrow to be beautiful, with hair too light, cheeks dotted with freckles.... She continued her drawing, increasingly withdrawn into her thoughts, letting her fingers work..... Her sketching grew more and more fervent. She finished the figures and moved to the background. Quick, bold lines became the floor and the archway behind. A scribbled dark smudge for the side of the desk, casting a shadow. Crisp, thin lines for the lantern sitting on the floor. Sweeping, breezelike lines to form the legs and robes of the creature standing behind-... The "time limit" I believe still applies to the person's image of self. They begin to see the injury as part of who they are, so it cannot be healed. Which is why Kaladin's brands won't heal despite stormlight. Conversely even an old injury could still be healed so long as the individual does not see it as part of who they are. The shardblade injured bridgeman who lost use of his feet for example for one. Lopen regrowing his arm for two. I believe Brandon has said your spiritual ideal knows how old you should be, so it will continually try to bring you back to that "ideal". Brandon has also said that mental illnesses he does not see as something to be healed. To clarify he is not referring to a chemical imbalance. That is a different matter.

Wouldn't the lurcher have to be practically a savant level to tell the difference between the metal all around him (the tank) vs the metal outside the tank?

Personally I think Occam's Razor. The simplest answer to what happened with the larkin is that it ate the voidlight that the fused had. Then the fused was killed. I take the WoB and information as simply the fused hold voidlight perfectly while radiants leak. If I give you a squeeze bottle full of water, and then cut a hole in its side, when you squeeze out the water, you get less for a shorter time. If however you have a squeeze bottle full of water, and squeeze it steadily, it lasts for far longer. Or put it to numbers. Making up arbitrary number 100. If every time a radiant holds stormlight, he or she passively loses 10 stormlight regardless of their usage, while a fused loses none, the numbers will reflect that rather quickly. Lets say using the same ability at the same strength uses up 15. That means every moment of use, the radiant loses 25, while the fused loses 15. In 4 "rounds" the radiant is empty, while the fused still had 40, or 2.6 more "rounds" of use. And that is not counting the "flaring" of surges that radiants frequently do.

Can you explain what you mean by lurchers being early tanks?

But they did lose. The entire spartan force did in fact get wiped out. They delayed the Persians which is all well and good, but it doesn't change that digging in still resulted in that groups death. But for purpose of this thread, let us assume both sides have decent numbers of allomancers and feruchemists. Pewter fercuhemists would not be as effective as they have no greater degree of durability due to their strength and will drop just as easily from gun fire. Lurchers would theoretically work better on defensive than offensive as they need a heavy enough/thick enough sheet of armor to protect them as they pull all the bullets towards them. Though that would cause problems for the defenders returning fire. Coinshots would be more effective as they would be pushing back enemy bullets while increasing penetration of allied shots. Pewter mistings might be good during advancing due to speed and endurance, but if they catch enough bullets, they are still going to drop. The problem with the feruchemists over all is they are a depreciating resource. Using any amounts they need, puts them out of the action for a longer period of time. All those steel feruchemists you send towards the enemy to advance, now have to spend weeks doing nothing to rebuild that. A lot can happen in a day nonetheless a week. Maybe if you have enough to put them on a rotation? Speed bubbles might be good for getting aid to the wounded. When advancing a slow bubble user could theoretically do it around a person wounded, thereby giving the wounded time for a medic or surgeon to get to them.

The moment of history the comic and movie 300 is based on disagrees. I believe (though I forget the name) there was also a naval battle around the same time, that went a similar way with Athens. Actually the entire conflict between the Greeks and the Persians from Darius to Xerxes shows sometimes people just don't learn lol. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn't.

No problem. What about the instance (I think it is with Kabsal or the guy from the boat?) where Shallan has the guy hold a mirror next to himself angled so she can see her face. She then takes a capture. She draws him and her face, and then adds the rest of herself in the picture. But I thought cosmere healing worked on returning the body to the spiritual ideal that is filtered through the cognitive, which is why if you convince yourself enough regarding your core identity, you can affect how things are healed. So for instance a man who identifies as a woman, has gender reassignment surgery. If that individual then had cosmere healing right after the surgery, then that individual would be a woman. As in all healed and fully functioning as if born with all the physical aspects of a woman. WoB confirms this. If later on that individual was shot, or hurt, then the healing would still return them to the female form ideal that that individual holds within themselves. Not further into the past when they were once physically a man.

That is not the only instance in history of a side suffering losses still going on the aggressive. They either make mistakes, or feel the risk is worth the reward. I finished re-reading Alloy of Law and have begun my re-read of Shadows of Self so I have not reached the point of New Seran yet in Bands of Mourning. The Set has allomantic and feruchemic resources, but I cannot recall if the outlying areas outside the Elendel Basin had many Allomancers/Feruchemists or not. That would lean the balance in Elendel's favor.

Can you explain/elaborate on what you mean?

Then my point stands. They took losses, and instead of retreating/going defensive/laying siege, they appointed a General that ended up being very aggressive.

The north suffered losses. Sherman gets appointed and carries out scorched earth policy. Do you agree with this assessment? This portion and only this portion?

Lee surrendered to Grant, because Grant was put in charged after Sherman burned a chunk of the south down. edit: just to clarify to hopefully prevent digression. I refer to this order 1. General Lee hands the North numerous defeats 2. Lincoln appoints Sherman 3. Sherman carries out scorched earth doctrine 4. in response to scorched earth doctrine of Sherman, Lincoln appoints Grant 5. Lee surrenders to Grant

Eh, both Jasnah and Sadeas have known Amaram for a long time, and they both comment on knowing who he really is. So that doesn't read to me as a change. But I guess to each their own.

Cool heads do not always prevail in war. General Lee of the Confederacy was a brilliant military tactician that frequently confounded the Union soldiers. In response, when General Sherman was put in charge, he went deep into enemy territory and practiced the first known concept of "total war" and a "scorched earth" doctrine. His army moved, fought, consumed supplies, and then destroyed infrastructure to prevent repair and recovery. This was meant to cripple the South's ability to maintain the war. Many believe it was crucial in leading to the surrender of the South, but back home in the North it was thought of with horror. That was after Lincoln went through multiple Generals who failed against Lee. Sherman was not a cooler head. If anything he went harder. Like I said, it is your thread. If you choose to omit it, then it is omitted. As of your scenario, I see allomancers and feruchemists used primarily in small groups, guerrilla forces, and infiltrators. I don't see whole battalions of pewter thugs charging the front lines with an "airforce" of coinshots providing cover fire if that is what you are getting at.

Ah, I did peruse the new table in the leatherbound, but forgot that tidbit. Thank you both!

Well most of it is that it just doesn't feel right, which is why I didn't say anything further because I didn't have anything to back up the feeling. Just something in my gut says no. Since my gut obviously is not any evidence lol, I didn't see fit to elaborate. Otherwise I guess I don't see her creating art based off of a snapshot in her mind as creating a new cognitive aspect. I could see that if she creates the entire piece in her mind when she takes the snap shot, but the art piece need not be identical in every way to what she "captured". So for instance, I believe it was with Taravangian, she took a "capture" of him, and changed the background. Then there are the moments where she alters the appearance of the capture to portray them in a nobler light. So are you saying the act of drawing it into the physical is her altering it to how she wants it to be from what the "ideal" or "original" was? If so, then how is it anchoring the cognitive if the physical now differs from the cognitive she formed? Unless from re-reading your post, you are saying she when she captures the image, she alters it at the time of capturing to what it will be. But we see her in quite a few situations capturing a person, and then later on drawing them, remarking to herself how she is bringing out this, or changing that while drawing. Basically this is a whole lot of nitpicks based on next to no information, to try and explain that it just doesn't feel right to me lol. So I got nothing to say "i think this doesn't work because of X". Why would regrowth, which is called progression/going forward, be about regression/looking back? Sure, no problem Questioner (paraphrased) If a non-Windrunner picked up Jezrien's Honorblade would they gain Windrunner powers as well? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) Yes. Questioner (paraphrased) If a Windrunner picked up that blade, would their abilities be enhanced? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) There would be some compounding but strength is not as much an issue with Surgebinding as is the strength of the spren bond and how much Stormlight you are using. Words of Radiance Houston signing (March 11, 2014) No problemo. Oathbringer page 1222 Join us in the sky. The Honorblades, Graces had told him, gave their powers to any who held them. Hesitant, Moash took the sphere that Khen offered "What was that she said? Wyre?" She had said it in a way that rhymed with fire. "It's one of their names" Khen said "I've been told it means He Who Quiets" Vyre, He Who Quiets, sucked in the light of the sphere. It was sweet and beautiful, and - as he'd been promised - brought Passion with it. he held to it, then Lashed himself upward into the sky

I already said how I felt the powers would affect things. The allomancers and feruchemists could be used in coordinated strikes in small forces. But I do not believe you are going to get massive battles with allomancers like D-day and the like. The allomancers and feruchemists just aren't at those numbers. Now include southerner tech and that changes things massively.

Ah I see. lol.

I never said it would change warfare on the whole. I was offering a tactic that could employ the tools at ones disposal. The changing of warfare is if medallions and allomantic/feruchemical vehicles are included. A lot of ideas regarding the allomancers and feruchemists would be guerrilla strikes to me. None of the types of allomancy nor feruchemy are in significant numbers enough to matter in a large scale assault. Pewter thugs are great as a "super soldier", but sending them across the front line to me is counter productive because they can be easily lost from mortar or gunfire from the opposing side. They would work better to me as a small scout group. Able to cover more ground, faster, for longer stretches of time than normal people. Coinshots might be good in the general infantry, but in order to fully use their abilities, you would either have to use them in small surgical strikes or need numbers that I just do not think they have available. I am talking hundreds if not thousands. Tineye and Seeker guards are a given. Oracles might work as spies. Infiltrate an area and you know where to go when to avoid being discovered. However run into the detection issue. The oracle would need to bring a copper cloud with him or her. But this is also assuming you have enough tineyes and bronze seekers to cover the entire perimeter, which I think is doubtful. Yes they make a difference, but to me that is not instant communication. There is optical telegraph (waving flags, etc to send signals), and the wired electric telegraph, but both of those are relatively limited. I believe he or she was trying to pinpoint what the level of technological analogue there would be.

Could you elaborate? From what I understand, all an aluminium spike does is steal enhancement allomantic abilities. If you mean stabbing someone with it means you lose the ability to heal, that is (from what I recall) incorrect. True you cannot heal the stab wound from the aluminum spike while it is in you, but that does not negate healing anywhere else.