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Patrick Star

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  1. Lirin actually embodies the Windrunner ideals super well. The fourth ideal will likely be something like "I will accept that there are those I can't save", which is something Kal's always struggled with, all the way back to when he was Hearthstone. When Roshone and Rillir got attacked by the Whitespine, Lirin focused on saving Roshone since he realized that Rillir was going to die, which Kaladin just couldn't accept.
  2. Could they be stoneward spren? According to @WeiryWriter's post, Stoneward spren are the only ones we don't have a name for.
  3. Did you change the topic? I changed my post to be polite, but I'm about 95% sure that you changed the thread after I posted.
  4. If he's able to open Honor's perpendicularity again, Dalinar should. That way, he can summon stormlight to feed Nightblood directly and not risk running out of spheres like Szeth did.
  5. Honestly, I don't like it. Aesudan is dead. Gone. Consumed by Yelig-nar. Elhokar is dead. Gone. Stabbed through the heart by the worst villain ever Moash. Evidently, she already has a bunch of other shady rust she was up to, why add Roshone to the list? It's either to make Elhokar look better, or to make her look worse, and both are unnecessary. Elhokar shouldn't be exonerated because it would make Kaladin's arc in Words of Radiance pointless. He kills Syl because of his hate for Elhokar and encouraging Moash to proceed with the assassination. This led to him swearing his third oath - "I will protect even those I hate so long as it is right". It would be atrocious writing for Brandon to go "Psyche! Elhokar was completely innocent all along!" because the point of the story was that Elhokar stormed up royally, but that wasn't worth assassination. It would also eliminate a large portion of Elhokar's character growth. As for Aesudan, she tried to bond a storming unmade while her city starved and slowly fell to Odium's army and influence. She's already about as evil as a character with such little screentime can get. Plus she was probably with the Sons of Honor. We already have plenty of reasons to hate her, how the heck are Moash's parents going to add to that aside from being a way to put more attention on Moash? It wouldn't add anything to the story, only subtract. Yes, Aesudan was a crappy person. But no, she was not involved with Moash's grandparents. Also, Roshone is totally willing to resort to killing. He's the reason Tien had to join the army, and we know how he intended that to end.
  6. He was definitely referring to the one going on right now
  7. Oh no, I knew Odium was evil when he started heading an attempted genocide of the human race, but this... this... this is awful. I can't even comprehend such evil.
  8. For this theory, there being more than 9 desolations isn't necessarily relevant. Instead of thinking of it as each desolation creating an unmade, we can think of it as each desolation either creating a new unmade, or adding to an unmade's sentience if an unmade from the herald who broke has already been created, like @The Thinking Herald points out above. There's also this WoB here that says there were "much fewer" than 99 desolations, so 15 desolations would certainly fall within that range. I think trying to get a more specific value for how many many desolations there were would be a good way to prove or disprove this theory. At the moment, I like it a lot.
  9. No, we're not. I'm just guessing, really, since I feel like Brandon plopping Vasher and Vivenna into the series just to get a couple of swords (Nightblood and Whiteblood) onto Roshar would be a waste. Keep in mind that Vasher is a returned, so he's a splinter of Endowment, not a sliver. Plus the dude's ancient, and was one of the main scholars on how breaths functioned. With enough hacking, I would not be surprised at all if he could eventually get it to work.
  10. Holy crap, Brandon's an absolute savage
  11. I think Vasher's going to awaken with Stormlight. That could definitely present a danger to Odium and the Fused.
  12. Nightblood is more invested than a sprenblade by several orders of magnitude. He'd eat it up like Joey Chestnut eating a hot dog.
  13. This may be weird to some other people, but I hate magic systems that are dependent on bloodlines (with the exception of stuff like vampire/blood magic, since the blood IS the magic). As such, a large part of Mistborn's magic system just never resonated with me. What I love about Surgebinding isn't so much that the magic itself is cooler or more powerful than that of Mistborn, but how the magic system is oath-based and is tied more strongly to how the characters act, rather than who the characters are. Basically, allomancy/feruchemy are dependent on WHO you are, while surgebinding is dependent on who you ARE, if that makes sense.
  14. Got to be Way of Kings Chapter 67 for me. So. Much. Epicness.
  15. I don't consider characterization like that to be spoilers, as it doesn't say anything that happens in Warbreaker. Now, if I said something like "Goku finds Nightblood and uses him to kill Cell and combine the Dragonballs to go into Super Saiyan 4", that would be a spoiler.
  16. No, he does not understand what evil is. It's extremely well-established in Warbreaker. From Coppermind: Nightblood was Awakened with the command "Destroy Evil." The sword had no concept of evil, and so the Breaths it inherited decided "evil was someone who would try to take the sword and use it for evil purposes, selling it, manipulating and extorting others, that sort of thing." Now, Nightblood does generally, but not always, work as a litmus test for good guys (if he thinks somebody's good, they're probably good), but he's killed a lot of people who are decidedly not evil because of his flawed understanding of the term.
  17. As I said, we have no idea what command she used to awaken the new blade, so we shouldn't really use how it acts or influences the people around it as a guide for how powerful it is. Nightblood's a wrecking ball because of how general the command "Destroy Evil" is, as well as how much extra investiture it's absorbed over the years. If Vivenna used a more specific command to awaken it, we definitely haven't seen what it's capable of once it's in a position to fulfill that command. While Nightblood is definitely more invested, Vivenna's blade should still have a good chunk of investiture, at least 1000 breaths. Also, if it's draining color, it definitely has an investiture absorption mechanism going on, as Endowment's investiture is tied to color. As I said, it's a second possible weapon for killing fused. Emphasis on possible. The only question is whether it can absorb a fused or a regular sprenblade. I'd lean towards "yes", as the sword would be pretty useless otherwise, plus the Fused were hesitant to get hit by it.
  18. This may seem like a hot take, but I don't think that sticking Nightblood in the Oathgates is a good idea. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that sticking Nightblood in most things is probably a bad idea.
  19. Nale's also a 5-oath skybreaker, while Szeth was at 2 oaths until the very end of the book. Nale's spren is probably more cognitively mature than Szeth's.
  20. The sword's name is Nightblood, not nimi lol Since it sounds like you haven't read Warbreaker, I'll give a cliffnotes version of what Nightblood is, and why he's significant to the story. Nightblood is a shardblade, but of the shard Endowment instead of Honor or Cultivation (like Radiant sprenblades are), and is what's referred to as an "Awakened Blade". In other words, Nightblood was a normal sword that was infused with Endowment's investiture and given a command to awaken to and fulfill. In Nightblood's case, that command was "Destroy Evil". However, Nightblood's personality is quite childish, so it doesn't quite understand what evil is. Nightblood operates by absorbing investiture, hence why enemies turn into smoke when it hits them, but it also requires investiture as fuel when it's drawn (hence why it started eating Szeth and Lift). This is significant because the Fused cannot be destroyed via physical weapons or standard shardblades; they just come back with the next everstorm front. However, since Nightblood absorbs investiture, a fused that Nightblood kills (or a spren, thunderclast, presumably an unmade, etc) is gone forever, making Nightblood the only current way for our new Radiants to actually inflict permanent casualties on the enemy. Now, there is a possibility that Szeth could form some sort of bond with Nightblood. As discussed in Shadesmar, spren learn things very slowly, which is why Nightblood still acts and thinks like an immature child. If Szeth were to bond Nightblood, it could potentially learn more about what exactly evil is, and mature. However, given that Nightblood's purpose is to "Destroy Evil", Szeth would probably have to make his personal quest oath for the Skybreakers to be about destroying evil to jumpstart the bonding process. Something like "I will destroy the evil false leadership of the Stone Shamans" might fit the bill. Of course, since Nightblood is of a different shard, this is purely speculation at this point. This also ties into Brightness Azure, who's actually the Warbreaker character Vivenna. We see her with another blade, which is presumably a Nightblood 2.0. However, we don't know what command her blade was awoken with. If you recall, the fused raiding Kholinar stayed away from her; this is because of the perma-killing that I mentioned earlier. That leaves us with a second possible weapon for killing Fused. Also, Szeth's highspren doesn't appear because it's (rightfully) scared that Nightblood will eat it. Nightblood is more invested than a sprenblade by several orders of magnitude, so if it came into contact with a sprenblade (and likely an honorblade), it would just absorb the other blade.
  21. Yes and Yes 1) If you're a law enforcement officer who is enforcing an unjust law, you are acting unjustly. Therefore, it is your fault. It's that simple. 2) Dude, ever heard of the Holocaust? Yes, a soldier is guilty of war crimes if he's "just following orders". TBH I can't believe you asked this question seriously.
  22. I'm glad to see someone else shares my opinion on the Skybreakers. The big issue with the order is that a ton of them have made their vows to follow Nale, and none of them have been able to get to oath 5, which is where the skybreaker "becomes law", which I guess would be the only way for them to stop following Nale outside of breaking the bond. And since Nale's insane, most of the skybreakers are what I would call "practically insane", meaning that their actions are those of an insane person. The skybreakers are bad news.
  23. On a serious note though, I loved when Dalinar comes out to talk to Odium while clutching a copy of The Way of Kings, then Odium blows it up with lightning. That scene hit me hard.
  24. I found that I had the most physical contact with the cover of the book, though other people may have had a different experience.
  25. Actually, it's because of how these things are fueled. We know that stormlight is a gas, and similar to breaths from Nalthis. And what do humans create when they breathe? Carbon Dioxide. And if you have a ton of humans doing this at the same time and using massive amounts of stormlight, that's a lot of CO2. Therefore, the first Human Surgebinders destroyed their planet via Global Warming. But seriously, I read it as being a result of uncontrolled surge usage. That's why the Knights Radiant were founded. It wasn't a way to grant humans power, but as a way to limit how they used the surges. By binding surge usage to the oaths of their order(s), they wouldn't pose a risk to Roshar on a planetary scale.
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