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I also accept upvotes in place of hugs. Honestly, I don't really have time. I'm so far behind on the Mistborn RPG that I don't have time to devote to this. If there are other games, feel free to set up other GMs, but Meta will still be the overall moderator for this. Additionally, I recommend you use a unique tag for each game. So the Mistborn one would have the tag "mistborn elimination" and the Stormlight one "stormlight elimination". That way they are easier to search and such. Another tag for which day it is is also not amiss. With my MBI experience (where we basically built all of Luthadel--one ball is, no joke, longer than the word count of the Well of Ascension) I can safely say that more tags is better

In case you did not see it in the other thread, here is my official admonishment in case there's any funny business or any attacks on other members. That crap will not be tolerated. So I'm repeating this here so no one has an excuse to say they didn't know I will be personally taking a close eye on these threads (which I had not done in the previous thread), and I will not tolerate anyone being mean. So you all better keep it nice or you'll have to suffer my wrath Also, Windy and Weiry are participating, and they will also be my eyes and ears. I mean it though. Everyone needs to express goodwill to other players. Sarcastic or other comments that could constitute flaming will be removed with extreme prejudice. The moment you decide to insult someone personally, you've taken it way too far. You be nice and have fun and enjoy it, storm it

Oh, I'm not worried about you, Meta. You have the ability to hide posts in this forum, so if anything offensive appears or if anything could be construed that way, you hide that post and let me know immediately so things do not snowball. You'll probably see it before I do, even though I'll look closely at these here. And no, it's less like cuddly wrath and more like the Stormfather's wrath. Like a highstorm wielding a banhammer type of wrath

I will be personally taking a close eye on these threads (which I had not done in the previous thread), and I will not tolerate anyone being mean. So you all better keep it nice or you'll have to suffer my wrath EDIT: Also, Windy and Weiry are participating, and they will also be my eyes and ears. I mean it though. Everyone needs to express goodwill to other players. Sarcastic or other comments that could constitute flaming will be removed with extreme prejudice. The moment you decide to insult someone personally, you've taken it way too far.

I'll set one up right now. This is getting a lot of interest, so I will definitely do that. EDIT: It is done. I wasn't sure whether to name it Mistborn Elimination or Sanderson Elimination, so let me know if you want it changed. Metacognition, I have given you limited moderation rights to this forum, as is usual in the RP subboards, so you may moderate how you please. Let me know if you have any questions or concerns about that. Additionally, if you hate my crappy forum description which I just made, just PM me a different one and I will update it for you Have fun, guys!

I would agree with that general rule of thumb, Weiry.

That's totally fine, probably best to wait until we see what's new before going crazy on dibs

I don't have strong opinions on whether you leave it checked or unchecked. I would probably say it's a minor edit for most articles.

Hello fellow wiki editors! With new Words of Radiance sample chapters, we definitely need to get Words of Radiance policies in place, so we're all on the same page. I think having some structure and planning will be very beneficial for this huge project for the wiki. After all, we really haven't dealt with sequels to this degree, since we existed after the first Mistborn trilogy was completed. With Words of Radiance, we have some complications, because we have a bunch of Complete articles that will obviously not be complete anymore. We definitely need a way to disseminate knowledge that is finished from Way of Kings and the work we need to do in Words of Radiance, so we need a really solid plan. Not only that, we need a plan for dealing with direct sequels that will be easily expandable for later books and series. Things are going to get a bit complex, so let's start laying the groundwork now. I've spoken with Windy and Joe about the Words of Radiance plan (though they don't remember it at all ) and I want to know what you think. Here's what I'm thinking. As usual, we will need the Spoiler tag on articles that contain content from Words of Radiance (I will be adding this to some recent articles after I'm done typing this up). We will need a list of articles on new subjects that Words of Radiance reveals--obviously there will be a lot of new characters, places, and other things revealed here. Next we need a list of terms mentioned in Words of Radiance that need updating due to new information in Words of Radiance. You will not need to worry about creating this list; it will be provided very shortly after release, if not same day. We'll need to use our Project: Stormlight spreadsheet a massive deal in this process. We should add a new column in that spreadsheet for "Requires updating". From there, we can use this spreadsheet to look at what articles are complete from knowledge in book one, and ones that need updating. I would like it to be a big priority for us to quickly update current complete articles to include WoR content. If we dally too much on updating them, the "complete" tag loses meaning. Hopefully, many of these will be easy to update. I think it would be best if we added two temporary categories for articles: one will be Category:Words of Radiance, which will be a temporary category that consists of any article that has WoR content (I just think a list like this will be really, really helpful for the initial months). That category will be removed whenever we find its use to be over--after all, we don't want a category like this for each book and have them be permanent--that would be silly if Kaladin had ten categories of just book names, not to mention superfluous. We just need this category for use in initial editing work on WoR. Nextly and more importantly, we need Category:Articles that need updates, for the old terms that are mentioned in WoR. Once we have a relatively complete list of those old terms, it should be an easy matter to add this tag to those articles. We would need a header template like Spoilers for this, something that says "This articles requires updates from Words of Radiance! In its current state, it doesn't include this new content yet." I've adapted the Spoiler tag and created the Update tag to automatically put things in these categories. So when you put {{spoilers| for [[Words of Radiance]]}}, it goes in Category: Words of Radiance, and {{update| from [[Words of Radiance]]}} puts it in the articles that need updating. Once we have all read Words of Radiance, it might be a good idea for editors to "call" what articles they want to update. We already do this--people who do a major revision of an article are kind of like that article's patron. For example, Weiry would be the patron to the Elantris article, Windy about Lift, Cem for Kaladin and Jasnah. So we could use this topic to call out what they would prefer to work on. There will be a lot of activity on the week of the release, and I highly, highly recommend not looking at the Recent Changes on the wiki at all until we have all read the book. Even the list of old terms mentioned are possible spoilers, you know? The tl;dr version: --We add two new categories, "Words of Radiance" and "Articles that need updating", which I've already done! --When Words of Radiance comes out, there will be a list of new terms and old articles that need updating. We will need to add these two templates to things. For updates, use {{update| from [[Words of Radiance]]}}, and when you put anything that has WoR content in it, use {{spoilers| for [[Words of Radiance]]}}. I will be adding the update tag to many of these articles, so you don't really need to worry about it much. --Windy will focus on new articles and terms, but I think otherwise, we should all make it a priority to work on current exemplary and complete articles and get them up-to-date before moving to other things. --People can use this topic to declare what articles they want to work on. I've always wanted to do a big, substantial revision to Vorinism. So with that in mind, and me making some assumptions about people wanting to update their own articles... Articles that have been claimed Vorinism - Chaos Odium - Chaos Cultivation - Chaos Hoid - Windy Glyphs - Windy Purelake - Windy Spren - Weiry Fabrials - Weiry Artifabrian - Weiry Kaladin - Cem Jasnah - Cem This is just looking at the exemplary articles. If you have any other big articles you intend to work on, let me know and I'll add you to the list. How does all this sound?

Well, there you go See this is exactly why I say content is most important, because hey, there are some people who just want to adapt current content, and that's totally fine! I'm liking the present tense change so far in what you and Weiry have done.

Personally, I think there are probably more productive things to do than altering tense, but I shan't stop anyone for wanting to that

The wiki staff (Joe, Windy, Weiry, and I) had a discussion about this earlier today, and we have come to a consensus, which I have added in the style guide: http://coppermind.net/wiki/Coppermind:Style#Tense We will not dissuade people from writing in past tense, as others are more comfortable with that. Write how you prefer, as content is king. Additional exceptions may appear and can be added to this guideline.

I had gotten into the beta of Hearthstone last week, but it's now in open beta, so now everyone can go play it. I simply love the game. It's an digital CCG with a ton of polish, and is incredibly addictive. If anyone else plays it, you should mention it here so we can play a few games!

Yeah, I wasn't quite sure where to set it, but this seems all right for the time being, I think.

Aether, that'd be a pretty great thing to have, but unfortunately that's not a feature of IPB. I can look for an extension that might allow it, though.

Hey guys, in case you didn't know, game two of this is up in the RP section http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/5630-game-2-the-devils-den/page-1

Aww, thanks Metacognition Your approval is not meaningless; I really value the input! Thanks!

Hey guys, I wanted to let you know of a slight change I just made. I have altered the amount of posts that is required to have the "Hot" icon on it in the forum view. Looking at the Words of Radiance board, the previous amount required to make a "hot" topic was 15 posts. That seems dumb, so I've increased it to 40--which is two pages of posts--and things look quite a bit better to me. Do you think I should increase that more, or is this fine?

They seem a little less than bright, if that makes sense? But they look pretty great overall.

I'd like to bump this topic and also open up discussion about section standardization for Places. This is actually surprisingly hard, since some Places articles are short, some are long, and some just have different purposes entirely. Roshar's page will have way different sections than, say, Alethkar. How in the world do we begin to standardize it?

I'm definitely not opposed to this, and your example makes a very good case for it. Seems like a fine idea to me. Is there any reason to not have this, really?

Whenever it is, I think it is going to be way more awesome than we think it is going to be.

That will still probably happen eventually with the extremely high rep levels, but that can't be helped.

Currently Brandon is the highest, but look at the thread in Site Issues. That will not remain for long

Those 80 levels are actually the nonnegative ones. I haven't started working on the negative rep levels.