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Big Site Update coming on October 21st


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After our last major site update all the way back in 2016, we're excited to announce that we'll be updating the forums and everything else to the latest available version of the platform we run on. We picked Saturday, October 21, as the big migration day. This means there will be some disruptions in service you'll have to expect on that day, but we will do our best to get the site back online as fast as possible.

At 06:00 UTC (2am Eastern Time, 11pm Pacific Time) on October 21, we'll be putting the site in "Offline Mode", which means regular users won't be able to use it from that point onward. In the background, we'll be performing a move to an entirely new server to host the site so we can modernize and clean up the environment everything runs in. We estimate this migration to take several hours as we'll have to perform some manual steps as well - plus, you all talk a lot on our forums, so there's lots of data to copy! As soon as all that's done, we'll flip the switch and allow you back into our gates.

Immediate Changes

The update will not be purely technical in nature. The most obvious change will be a new design that you'll see all across the site. We unfortunately won't be able to bring over the existing theme to the new version as there have been a lot of changes to the underlying software in the meantime and it's unfortunately not sustainable to customize the look and feel as much as we did for the current version. Regardless, we made some changes to give the site some character and to hopefully make the move ever so slightly less jarring. In order for you to get an impression of what the updated version looks like, here's a sneak peek of our homepage when you're logged in:

View of the new 17th Shard homepage

The topic view will also change a fair amount with an at-a-glance overview of some interesting statistics about the topic in the sidebar:

Preview of new topic view

Another change is that custom member titles have moved a little bit in the user interface. They will be a regular profile field, but everything else about them should stay the same!

Planned and Potential Changes

You'll also notice in the topic screenshot above that the regular upvote button is gone! Instead, the new forum version allows us to define custom reactions! We'll keep this limited to an "upvote" reaction for now, but will definitely be exploring this and several other new features in the future:

  • Additional reactions that might affect reputation differently
  • Achievements for performing certain actions, e.g. posting enough or having very successful posts
    • These can also be rewarded with fancy badges that show up on your profile page!
  • Updated Social Connections: While some of our older members might still remember ICQ or MSN, we hear that these aren't as hip with the kids anymore, so we'll likely be updating those to reflect the current social media landscape
  • Pronouns Profile Field: Asking for gender (sex, really) in your profile is kind of outdated and unnecessary for the most part, so we'll be replacing this with a pronouns field that should prove more useful and allows for many more options
  • Dark Theme: With the move to a less customized default theme and thanks to advancements in how configurable a theme is, it will be much easier for us to hopefully introduce this at some point

We can't give any concrete timelines on any of these and won't promise we'll implement all of them, but with everything else up-to-date, we should be able to iterate on new things a lot more!

Future Update Schedule

We aim to track updates of the software we use much more closely in the future, which will likely mean an increase in the update frequency. Rather than performing a big disruptive update every few years, there will be more minor and gradual rollouts of new versions. This is very much in the spirit of the books, as I think a wise man once thought

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The most important update a site can make. It’s not the first one, is it?

It’s the next one. Always the next update, 17th Shard.

 

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Please note dark mode is coming after the 21st, but it is definitely on the table as a thing that is coming. Just wanted to make that clear!

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YAYYYYY!!!!!!

im on another forum other than this one, too, and they have it where you can have custom reactions. i actually thought it was a little strange that y'all didn't have that when I first joined :3

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8 minutes ago, ΨιτιsτηεΒέsτ said:

Will there be new reputation levels?

No new reputation levels for now, anything that requires thinking or custom configuration will have to wait. But there has been some interest in the ranks, so we'll have to consider that. 

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Eeeee I’m kinda excited not gunna lie. Totally not going to do something dramatic on Threnodite Hunger Games or something right before the website shuts down to leave you on a cliffhanger-

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1 hour ago, ΨιτιsτηεΒέsτ said:

Also I noticed in the picture that there is not a member title. Will there be no more member titles?

i believe it said that member titles will have moved, but will still exist.

The "Top posters on topic" would show who has the most posts, right? Will that work on FGaRS?

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It all looks very cool, 

44 minutes ago, SmilingPanda19 said:

Eeeee I’m kinda excited not gunna lie. Totally not going to do something dramatic on Threnodite Hunger Games or something right before the website shuts down to leave you on a cliffhanger-

That sounds cool, and is really good timing, but at the same time... WHY...

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2 minutes ago, Scars of Hathsin said:

It all looks very cool, 

That sounds cool, and is really good timing, but at the same time... WHY...

Because true Evil

Either way cool to see this, though I am kinda sad to see some of the old ui replaced with 'modern' types. In all it seems like it would be a pretty nice improvement.

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2 hours ago, ΨιτιsτηεΒέsτ said:

Will there be new reputation levels?

There may necessitate some changes but we aren't delaying the update here because of it.

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are we gonna finally be able to use normal emojis?!???? that’s so hype if true

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3 minutes ago, dannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnex said:

are we gonna finally be able to use normal emojis?!???? that’s so hype if true

But there is no normal emoji of this! :ph34r:

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8 minutes ago, ΨιτιsτηεΒέsτ said:

But there is no normal emoji of this! :ph34r:

able to use normal emojis as well i mean. of course we can’t get rid of these guys, they’re practically integral to my online communication at this point. :P

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Well, as with anything like this, it'll take some getting used to. But I'm looking forward to it!

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1 hour ago, Chaos said:

There may necessitate some changes but we aren't delaying the update here because of it.

Can we have a COMPLETE list of everything being changed?

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4 hours ago, ΨιτιsτηεΒέsτ said:

Also I noticed in the picture that there is not a member title. Will there be no more member titles?

Member titles still exist and will be in the same spot. It's honestly kind of funny for the screenshot Paleo chose that he chose a forum post where neither he nor the reply accounts had member titles. No change there.

1 hour ago, dannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnex said:

are we gonna finally be able to use normal emojis?!???? that’s so hype if true

Correct!

53 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

Can we have a COMPLETE list of everything being changed?

No, not because I don't want to, but because there are tons of updates in the several versions we have missed under the hood that could have a lot of effects. I mean, you can go to Invision Power's site and look at the changelog. I understand the desire. I just don't know if it's possible to do what you are asking here. There are probably hundreds or thousands of minor things and design changes.

We are trying to keep things similar. Honestly, there may be things we miss that you will notice that we might not, and there are also going to be tons of settings we could adjust as well. We will likely be tweaking some things as we move along. It's an evolving sort of thing.

As for the nebulous "rep thing" I alluded to before, I'm mistaken. An intermediate version we were working on a while ago had something different going on, and is not the case now, so rep titles will not have any changes on the 21st. Someday I'm sure we will add more :) 

I admit I'm a bit out of the loop on this one because I am very busy this term, so I haven't had much time to test stuff. There are a lot of settings we can play around with. 

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  • Updated Social Connections: While some of our older members might still remember ICQ or MSN, we hear that these aren't as hip with the kids anymore, so we'll likely be updating those to reflect the current social media landscape
  • Pronouns Profile Field: Asking for gender (sex, really) in your profile is kind of outdated and unnecessary for the most part, so we'll be replacing this with a pronouns field that should prove more useful and allows for many more options

WOOHOO I LOVE YOU

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Off-topic: I’ve always wondered if there was a secret rep level above God Beyond that nobody’s reached yet.

If there isn’t, you should put one in and call it “Stick”

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3 hours ago, Chaos said:

Member titles still exist and will be in the same spot. It's honestly kind of funny for the screenshot Paleo chose that he chose a forum post where neither he nor the reply accounts had member titles. No change there.

Correct!

No, not because I don't want to, but because there are tons of updates in the several versions we have missed under the hood that could have a lot of effects. I mean, you can go to Invision Power's site and look at the changelog. I understand the desire. I just don't know if it's possible to do what you are asking here. There are probably hundreds or thousands of minor things and design changes.

We are trying to keep things similar. Honestly, there may be things we miss that you will notice that we might not, and there are also going to be tons of settings we could adjust as well. We will likely be tweaking some things as we move along. It's an evolving sort of thing.

As for the nebulous "rep thing" I alluded to before, I'm mistaken. An intermediate version we were working on a while ago had something different going on, and is not the case now, so rep titles will not have any changes on the 21st. Someday I'm sure we will add more :) 

I admit I'm a bit out of the loop on this one because I am very busy this term, so I haven't had much time to test stuff. There are a lot of settings we can play around with. 

This will be cool but whats the estimated downtime? 

 

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1 hour ago, Aeoryi said:

This will be cool but whats the estimated downtime?

It's going to take somewhere between 2 and 4 hours, but might also take longer if there's some unexpected complications. I didn't want to give any concrete estimate because while we tested this all ahead of time, this is a huge step and we can't say for certain whether everything goes a smoothly as we want it to.

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