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Stormlight Archive 5 delayed and Hollywood is to blame


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Alas. We suspected that this would be the case for some time now, but it has finally be confirmed: Stormlight 5 won't be coming until 2024. Though the reason why certainly isn't quite what we expected...

Brandon Sanderson did a Reddit AMA (ask me anything) with subreddit r/books last week, and u/VeryNiceName16 asked about the plan for the "Stormlight 4.5 novella" (tentatively titled Horneater) amid everything else going on in 2023. Which, if you've give a moment of thought for Brandon's release schedule for 2023, is a darn good question! We've got four Secret Project books, Defiant (Skyward 4), AND supposedly Stormlight Archive 5? Not to mention the Words of Radiance leatherbounds and several other smaller projects that might be coming along. I don't know about you, but I'm already sweating thinking about how much work it will be just to keep up!

Progress on Stormlight 5 has been slow of course, and Brandon finally confirmed what we all expected: the Stormlight 5 release just isn't going to happen in 2023 after all. While some people might be bummed by this, I have to say that I'm honestly a bit relieved. With so much content coming out, I'm more than grateful that we're getting a bit of extra time so that we can properly digest it all.

This delay should come as no surprise. Brandon's fastest turnaround time on a Stormlight book was Rhythm of War, which he started writing in early 2019 and was able to finish by the end of that year. Sanderson's plan was to start Stormlight 5 at the beginning of this year to hit the November 2023 release... Well, we're currently a little over halfway through the year and the first draft status bar is sitting at a mere 7%, with a few more weeks of Secret Project 3 revisions still on his plate first. Keep in mind Brandon will still have to work on revisions for Secret Project 4 and Defiant at some point as well. All of that to say, it would seem that he's roughly 6 months behind schedule as it stands, and that could slip a bit further. Brandon stressed at JordanCon 2021 that he will allow Stormlight 5's schedule to slide back if necessary. It's the "end of a sequence," as he called it, and he needs to make sure that sequence sticks the landing.

b-moey.pngBrandon went a step further though to clarify why Stormlight 5 has been a bit slow-going, and it's not primarily due to the Secret Projects or any other writing projects: it's movie and television stuff.

It was ALSO at JordcanCon 2021 that Sanderson gave one of the biggest teases about about potential adaptations in quite some time: saying that if we "read in between the lines" we might be able to put some things together even though he couldn't announce anything official. In the recent AMA, he opened up a bit more on this saying: "This is the year that Hollywood came calling." With the success lately of various fantasy properties proving that Game of Thrones wasn't a fluke, streaming services, execs, and producers are on the hunt for more. Guess whose name shows up as the top bestselling author with no adaptations made? Brandon Sanderson has been getting a lot of their attention, and the recent Secret Project Kickstarter success only added more fuel to the fire. The result? Lots of phone calls and lots of meetings with several major streaming services and studios. (Netflix was one he named in particular.)

Brandon explained earlier in the AMA that he's doing everything he can to earn a relatively high level of involvement and creative control over any adaptations that come about, and the bargaining power that he seems to hold is sure to be a big help. Apparently Hollywood doesn't know what to do with someone who doesn't need their money?

It's important to stress that we do NOT know the status of any movie or television deals. While it's possible that something in particular is in progress, it's also possible that Sanderson is still working through negotiations to make sure they get the best deal they can. And let's not forget that even from the time of an announcement, it's a long road to seeing an adaptation on our screens.

One thing seems clear however: it's a question of when, not if.

The same is thankfully true of Stormlight Archive novels. While Stormlight 5 is expected to be delayed, we at least know that we can trust Sanderson to get it done as soon as he is able. As for u/VeryNiceName16's question that sparked all this? Brandon did confirm that Horneater is very much on his to-do list after Stormlight 5 is written. So perhaps we'll get a little something extra to tide us over in the months before the next novel? Which I say as if half a dozen other books in 2023 aren't already enough to do that!

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On 7/16/2022 at 0:12 AM, Use the Falchion said:

I think you're forgetting that Brandon can write and revise at the same time, and that he plans on writing all of those books within the five years. I'm not sure he is or should be beholden to the idea of all of those releasing in those five years. That would be too much IMO. Era 3 and the Elantris books could make it, but not Nightblood. And frankly, I think that's fine. Again, my belief is that Stormlight 6 will be released before 2031.

When I tried to plot it out it out a year or two ago, I accounted for Era 3 taking longer. Brandon has said that Era 3, Elantris sequels, and Nightblood should all take around 6 months each. Assuming he finishes all of his revisions and work on Stormlight 5 by June 1, 2024 (which feels pretty generous at this time), a schedule may look something like: 

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June 2024 - Horneater Draft 1*

July - Aug 2024 - Horneater revisions & Mistborn 8 outlining

Aug - Dec 2024 - Mistborn 8 Draft 1 (the writing time on this one is faster since first books in series always go by faster for Brandon)

Jan 2025 - Era 3 outlining*

Feb - July 2025 - Mistborn 9 Draft 1

July 2025 - Palate Cleanser

Aug 2025 - Feb 2026 - Mistborn 10 Draft 1 (it needs more time since it's a finale) 

March - June 2026 - Mistborn 8 Revisions & Elantris 2 & 3 outlining.** (These outlines can bleed into the palate cleanser time, if revisions go long or demand all of Brandon's focus this time around.)

July 2026 - Palate Cleanser

Aug - Dec 2026 - Elantris 2 Draft 1 (and Mistborn 9 revisions if he wants to get ahead, but I doubt it)

Jan - June 2027 - Mistborn 9 Revisions & Elantris 3 Draft 1

July 2027 - Palate Cleanser

Aug - Dec 2027 - Elantris 3 Draft 1 (if it's not done; if it is done, then Nightblood moves up a few months, which in turn moves the revisions up, which in turn moves Stormlight up) & Nightblood outlining.** 

Jan - June 2028 - Mistborn 10 Revisions, Stormlight Era 2 outlining, and Nightblood Draft 1

July 2028 - Palate Cleanser

Aug - December 2028 - Elantris 2 & 3 and Nightblood revisions, Stormlight 6 Draft 1 starts. 

All 2029 - Stormlight 6 Draft 1 continues

Late 2029 or Early 2030 - Stormlight six release. We're all assuming that Brandon will start the back half of Stormlight with it being the size of OB and RoW, when he's probably more likely to go back down to TWOK or WoR size books. That could take him anywhere from 8-9 months to the full 11-12 months of pure writing. If it's the former and he gets a good chunk (roughly 30-40%) written in 2028, then I don't think a November 2029 release date is too far-fetched. It'd be Herculean, but not far-fetched. Which is fine, since either time is still before 2031. 

 

 

Alternatively, if Brandon does decide to get ahead with the Mistborn 9 revisions Aug-Dec 2026:

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Aug - Dec 2026 - Elantris 2 Draft 1 & Mistborn 9 Revisions (pre-outlined and excited for the book should mean that Elantris 2 could work on a quicker schedule)

Jan - June 2027 - Elantris 3 Draft 1 & Mistborn 10 Revisions

July 2027 - Palate Cleanser

Aug 2027 - March 2028 - Nightblood outlining and Draft 1, Stormlight Era 2 outlining

April - May 2028 - Palate Cleanser

June 2028 - Feb 2029 - Elantris 2 & 3 and Nightblood revisions, Stormlight 6 Draft 1 

Feb - Aug 2029 - Stormlight revisions and (and Nov/Dec release)

 

In this case, the release dates would be roughly:

2024 - Stormlight 5 & Horneater 

November 2026 - Misborn 8

November 2027 - Mistborn 9 

November 2028 - Mistborn 10

2029 - Elantris 2 (Spring) & Stormlight 6 (Nov/Dec)

2030 - Elantris 3 

2031 - Nightblood

 

Not listed: Skyward sequel trilogy novels (I'm guessing they'll be 2024-2026), The Apocalypse Guard and any potential sequels (I'm also guessing 2024-2026 or something similar), Boatload of Mummies (Isaac's book should be finished by the end of this year, I'd assume, so it could go in 2023 or even 2024 as a nice bridge between TLM and Era 3), The Atzlanian (no possible way to confirm a release since it's not even close to being written, but I'm hoping for a 2023 or 2024 release, if Brandon can find a solid coauthor this year), Lux sequels (no idea, but I think if it is a trilogy, 2023 and either 2024 or 2025 is feasible). 

Things could easily move up a few months if Brandon finishes all of his revisions Stormlight 5 before June 1, 2024 and/or if the palate cleansers aren't really needed.

 

Again, all of this was based on Brandon's words and desires before the Secret Projects. He supposedly has more writing days now, since his travel days are in the teens and twenties rather than eighties or even over a hundred, despite those days being taken up by meetings at the moment. I have a feeling that books could be finished slightly quicker than before on the whole, especially when the meetings calm down as Sanderson focuses in on 1-2 projects at a time. Alternatively, the main books would be finished at a slightly slower pace, but we may get more quirky, fun one-off books. Either way, I'm still of the belief that 2029 isn't impossible, and while 2030 is more likely, we won't be waiting 7 years between Stormlight 5 and Stormlight 6.

 

 

*I'm giving it about a month since I'm guessing it'll be somewhere between the length of Edgedancer and Dawnshard, but who knows. 

*Brandon has talked about how he outlines and writes the first book in a series and then goes back to outline the entire series. 

**For the outlining slots, depending on how long it takes, Brandon can use that spare time to work on other projects like collaborations, write and/or revise scripts, or even write more Secret Project novels. Outlining usually doesn't take more than a month or so, so he'd have 3-4 months of spare time to do with what he wills, or other things that need to be done. He could also just use the time to get ahead, but I think "giving" (as if it was our time to give) Brandon freedom to use that time as he desires would result in an overall better outcome. 

***If Elantris 3 is finished, then I'd say Brandon could go straight into outlining and writing Nightblood, with a desire to get ahead of the curve when it comes to his other revisions. 

This is very detailed and comprehensive, consider me convinced. I'd like to read the book sooner rather than later too, so I'm definitely not gonna complain!

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On 13/07/2022 at 1:11 AM, Frustration said:

In world there are ten years between them. Not IRL.

Phew! :lol:

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