Devotary of Spontaneity Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 I see we're revealing locations immediately after the last two people who had their locations publicly claimed got killed. I guess a maximum of two people can be killed per night and so any claims after that won't increase the single night death toll, but we don't need to give the elims more options to dodge Lurcher protection if Tani is indeed a village Lurcher or target roles they might want dead.
Araris Valerian he/him Posted September 14, 2021 Author Posted September 14, 2021 The cycle ends in just under 5 hours, so make sure to get your votes in!
Mat he/him Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 hmm @Illwei I think you need to vote TJ or Devo
Illwei Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: hmm @Illwei I think you need to vote TJ or Devo explain
Mat he/him Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Illwei said: explain If it's this spread out the elims can probably manipulate the vote easily without hammering (or even with a hammer), but I don't think Tani is gonna be the consensus here We need a consensus, which will be hard to begin with. TJ/Devo are the only people I see actually getting a consensus for.
Illwei Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: If it's this spread out the elims can probably manipulate the vote easily without hammering (or even with a hammer), but I don't think Tani is gonna be the consensus here We need a consensus, which will be hard to begin with. TJ/Devo are the only people I see actually getting a consensus for. Devo has two votes, TJ has none. I'm more inclined to see TJ as town because of his thought process on me, but i also don't see the reasoning for devo besides her flip potentially giving my alignment. My thoughts against TJ are simply the tunnel that allowed him to stay out of the general top two My thoughts on Tani are that she isn't normal, her being silent != towny and I don't see how it's towny. she got killed last elim game for being loud and it wouldn't suprise me if this was her trying to adapt and not know what to do. She's been almost completely disengaged since showing up for the game instead of asking for a pinch hitter or letting a pinch hitter take over. Edited September 14, 2021 by Illwei
Araris Valerian he/him Posted September 14, 2021 Author Posted September 14, 2021 Current VC: Devotary (3): Mat, TJ, Squirrel Tani (1): Illwei Squirrel (1): Tani
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 I really don't like any of these trains, especially since Mat's on Devo's.
Squirrelwatcher he/him Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 What do you propose instead?
Mat he/him Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 23 minutes ago, The Unknown Order said: I really don't like any of these trains, especially since Mat's on Devo's. What's that supposed to mean? Like, in reference with your read on me?
Devotary of Spontaneity Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 So I am still dying for voting on non-Illwei trains. Or at least that's TJ's reasoning. Not entirely sure where Matrim went from voting Chantara to not even considering her a suspect, but I guess it's the RB claim or some other PM thing. An elim roleblocker would have needed to know three people's locations every night to be useful alongside the elim spike and Coinshot kills so might not be usable, but on a three person elim team would mean that no scan could take place so if that's the number wouldn't have been used unless the elims were confident of being able to kill two people per night for the rest of the game without scans. Squirrel wouldn't have lied about being roleblocked. An elim Squirrel accusing a village Esooa would be a dangerous move but might have worked if Esooa flipped Soother. Not especially likely but I wouldn't say we lose if Squirrel is an elim.Tani likely is a Lurcher since she probably could have stayed quiet instead of risking another Lurcher, although two village Lurchers wouldn't be out the the question with targeting limitations and an elim Coinshot. Being a Lurcher isn't proof of alignment since we had a village Coinshot. For non-train people, I've mostly been coasting on village Mat since D2. Probably should have looked at this more closely but I'm not going to unless Illwei is evil. TUO being evil likely means we haven't done a very good job pressuring elims. TUO and Mat are presumably not e/e, and I'd say TUO isn't e/e with Illwei either. TJ certainly isn't an elim with Illwei. Not sure why he's not willing to vote Mat after putting him into a 1/2/3 with Illwei and Esooa but I'm also going with early village read on Mat and it's not like his alignment has changed since then. I feel like I'm willing to see if TJ's right about @Illwei at this point. Floating around on Archer is odd, I reflexively dislike asking for location claims, and knowing Illwei's alignment would clear a lot of things up, with the main downside that killing village Illwei + two kills tonight makes a 3-3 tie, though this is true for any mix and at least Illwei isn't a Lurcher and presumably not the Soother. So I'll vote for Illwei.
Squirrelwatcher he/him Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) Devo illwei Edited September 14, 2021 by Squirrelwatcher forgot space
Illwei Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 14 minutes ago, Squirrelwatcher said: Devo illwei bad squirrel
Mat he/him Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 There is no reason for me to vil read Illwei and yet here we are
Illwei Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 I'm not voting devo unless someone gives me a reason that isn't something about her flip telling thread if i'm an elim or not Chantara
Condensation she/her Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 Hello! Hey, look who's on around rollover and is ready to vote! What's the current vote count? If no one answers I will edit in a vote.
Devotary of Spontaneity Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 Illwei(3): Devotary, Squirrel, Chantara Devotary(2): TJ, Mat Squirrel(1): Tani Chantara(1): Illwei
Araris Valerian he/him Posted September 14, 2021 Author Posted September 14, 2021 The Turn has ended!
Condensation she/her Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 Hmm... I think I'll vote Chantara, and here's the reason why: I've been chatting with Squirrel, and they seem village to me. Although they haven't shared any of their own thoughts on people while asking mine, I suppose I didn't ask. Devo is really reading vil to me, even though I've chatted with them less. And their comments in thread seem less gah no time sorry
Araris Valerian he/him Posted September 14, 2021 Author Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) Once again, the skaa were hesitant to outright kill one of their number based on suspicions alone. As the day crept to a close, it seemed that 3 parties were chiefly suspected; Illwei, Ven, and Tara. Before a decision could made, a nobleman's carriage rounded a nearby corner and barreled through the gathered skaa, heedless of any injury it caused. When the dust cleared, several skaa were nursing wounds, and Ven's chest was staved in where one of the horses had trampled it. Deciding that nobody else should die, the skaa searched through Ven's things for any sort of connection to the Ministry. Within Ven's coat were found a couple of vials of Steel along with a list of names, some of which were crossed off, and all of which were initial members of the group meeting to hunt the Ministry Agents. The group agreed that Ven was certainly responsible for some of the recent murders, and spirits were high, at least for skaa, as the crowd headed off to their individual homes. Just as the skaa were beginning to disperse, Steel rounded the corner, huffing. "I'm pretty sure Ven is not a spy. Tara..." Steel paused to catch his breath. "Tara is who I think we should kill today." His pronouncement was met with an awkward silence. The Gods of Luck and Chance have spoken! Devotary was a Ministry Agent Child Coinshot! Night 4 has begun, and will end on Wednesday at 6:00 PM EDT. Vote Count: Spoiler Devotary (2): Matrim, TJ Illwei (2): Squirrel, Chantara Chantara (2): Devotary, Illwei Squirrel (1): Tani No Vote (2): Condensation, TUO Player List: Spoiler @Matrim's Dice (Stuart Sampson) Archer (Eron) Skaa Overseer Coinshot @The Unknown Order (Scorched) Steeldancer/@Condensation (Steel) Dalinar Kholin (Avanchel "Van") Skaa Informant @Tani (Izi) Kasimir (Airam) Skaa Metallurgist @Chantara (Tara) Devotary of Spontenaity (Ven) Ministry Agent Child Coinshot Elkanah (Leek) Skaa Child @Illwei (Ill Way) Frozen Mint (Em) Skaa Overseer @Squirrelwatcher (Rastan) @|TJ| (Hollaback Atcha) Esooa (Nameless) Skaa Night Crew Azmine_king Skaa Informant Edited September 14, 2021 by Araris Valerian 2
Quivil Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) First Elim dead and we didn't even do it. RNG had to come save us. Thank you, vote manip! Edit: I did not think I would ever say that. Edited September 14, 2021 by Tani
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