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[Condensation she/her]

Just now, Chinkoln said:

I already tried to get him to fix it. He wouldn’t. It bugs me as well.

He fixed it.

[Frustration]

Just now, Chinkoln said:

I already tried to get him to fix it. He wouldn’t. It bugs me as well.

I just did

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Edited March 21, 2021 by Frustration

[Condensation she/her]

Wait, so you'll do it when I point it out, but not when Chinkoln does?

[Frustration]

2 minutes ago, Condensation said:

Wait, so you'll do it when I point it out, but not when Chinkoln does?

I thought I had

[Condensation she/her]

Just now, Frustration said:

I thought I had

Oh. That's funny!

[Kings_way he/they]

I had a thought that doesn't really make any sense but still seems like theorizing material. (correct me here if when anything I say is incorrect)

We know that godmetals are basically solid investiture, and Shardblades are also solid investiture. (and I think they're metal)

Can Shardblades cut godmetals? Can an allomancer burn shardblades? are shardblades Honoronium? 

 

[LewsTherinTelescope]

43 minutes ago, Kings_way said:

are shardblades Honoronium?

Sorta. They're kind of Spiritually an alloy of Honor's metal and Cultivation's.

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Alpharho

The metal of Shardblades. Cultivationspren versus honorspren, for example. Are they different metals?

Brandon Sanderson

No, but good question.

Alpharho

Are all orders the same alloy, essentially?

Brandon Sanderson

Yes. There's a little asterisk on there, but not in the way you're asking... You could call those all the same alloy. Because the mixture to different spren is different, I think that you could argue that each one is its own alloy.

Alpharho

So, different proportions of tanavastium?

Brandon Sanderson

Yes, but it doesn't quite work that way with these magics, right? I'm going to say that's up to the individual cosmerologist who is in the world, the arcanist, defining it. You would be able to find enough differences to legitimately call them different alloys if you wanted to.

Alpharho

Would you say different ratios of the same two metals?

Brandon Sanderson

Yes. They are not going to have a third one in them, if that's what you're asking. But it doesn't quite work that way. Like, if you were going to take brass, you could measure the exact percentage. In this case, it is a thing; it's not like you could divide it up and split them apart, because they are a thing. And that thing would be called one thing.

Alpharho

But you won't say what that thing is called?

Brandon Sanderson

No, I won't say what that thing is called. But I think you and the 17th Sharders and folks that are dividing them would prefer to call them ten different things, and I think their nomenclature would be relevant.

Skyward Denver signing (Nov. 15, 2018)

[Frustration]

46 minutes ago, Kings_way said:

Can an allomancer burn shardblades?

Yes, ish

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Questioner

If a Mistborn were to burn a piece of a Shardblade, what would happen?

Brandon Sanderson

This would be hard to make happen, but it would be possible. A Shardblade is going to act as, basically, an alloy of the god metal of Honor and so  what would it do? RAFO, but it is possible and it would do something. It would not be inert. It would be Allomanticaly viable.

Footnote: This question was also addressed here.
Starsight Release Party (Nov. 26, 2019)

word_thief

What would happen if a Mistborn ingested the metal of a Shardblade/Plate?

Brandon Sanderson

A Shardblade is Invested. A Mistborn isn't likely to have a tie to that type of Investiture. So probably nothing would happen…

General Twitter 2013 (Oct. 24, 2013)

 

[Kingsdaughter613 she/her]

Here’s a theory: Kelsier didn’t snap in the Pits. Instead Preservation actively transformed him into an allomancer, like Saze would later do to Spook.

Reasons to suspect this:

1: its really strange that Kell didn’t Snap before if he had the potential after 16 months in the Pits even if his threshold was higher.

2: the Mistsnapped were weaker than other allomancers. Kelsier was noted to be unusually strong, so it’s unlikely he experienced that kind of Snapping.

[Frustration]

2 minutes ago, Kingsdaughter613 said:

Here’s a theory: Kelsier didn’t snap in the Pits. Instead Preservation actively transformed him into an allomancer, like Saze would later do to Spook.

Reasons to suspect this:

1: its really strange that Kell didn’t Snap before if he had the potential after 16 months in the Pits even if his threshold was higher.

2: the Mistsnapped were weaker than other allomancers. Kelsier was noted to be unusually strong, so it’s unlikely he experienced that kind of Snapping.

The Mistsnapping made them stronger

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Brandon Sanderson

The Sliding Scale of Allomantic Potential

Noblemen, despite what Spook says in this chapter, are not immune to the mistsickness. The rumor Spook is referencing does have merit, however. You see, since the mists are Snapping people and awakening the Allomantic potential within them, it will affect far fewer noblemen than skaa. Why? Because a lot of the noblemen have already Snapped. They were beaten as children to bring out the powers.

However, that won't stop all of them from being affected by the mistsickness, because the mistsickness is also awakening Allomantic potential that would otherwise be too subtle to be brought out. Pretend there's a sliding scale of Allomantic potential. 100% means you're an Allomancer—in this series, only two people have hit 100%—Vin and Elend. Buried within a lot of people, however, is enough of a touch of Preservation's power to hit, say, 50% on the relative scale of Allomantic power. These people, when beaten and made to pass through something traumatic, awaken to their Allomantic abilities.

There are a lot of people out there, however, with something more like 20% to 30%. These are the people the mists are Snapping—since the mists are, themselves, partially the power of Preservation, they can touch people and increase their Allomantic potential slightly and then bring it to the forefront.

The Hero of Ages Annotations (Dec. 29, 2009)

So I think it more likely that Kelsier had a very dormant powers that preservation increased

[Kingsdaughter613 she/her]

3 minutes ago, Frustration said:

The Mistsnapping made them stronger

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Brandon Sanderson

The Sliding Scale of Allomantic Potential

Noblemen, despite what Spook says in this chapter, are not immune to the mistsickness. The rumor Spook is referencing does have merit, however. You see, since the mists are Snapping people and awakening the Allomantic potential within them, it will affect far fewer noblemen than skaa. Why? Because a lot of the noblemen have already Snapped. They were beaten as children to bring out the powers.

However, that won't stop all of them from being affected by the mistsickness, because the mistsickness is also awakening Allomantic potential that would otherwise be too subtle to be brought out. Pretend there's a sliding scale of Allomantic potential. 100% means you're an Allomancer—in this series, only two people have hit 100%—Vin and Elend. Buried within a lot of people, however, is enough of a touch of Preservation's power to hit, say, 50% on the relative scale of Allomantic power. These people, when beaten and made to pass through something traumatic, awaken to their Allomantic abilities.

There are a lot of people out there, however, with something more like 20% to 30%. These are the people the mists are Snapping—since the mists are, themselves, partially the power of Preservation, they can touch people and increase their Allomantic potential slightly and then bring it to the forefront.

The Hero of Ages Annotations (Dec. 29, 2009)

So I think it more likely that Kelsier had a very dormant powers that preservation increased

They’re still weaker though. Kelsier was noted to be stronger than most other Mistborn. So if he was given a boost, it was a much bigger one than the Mistsnapped.

[Frustration]

Just now, Kingsdaughter613 said:

They’re still weaker though. Kelsier was noted to be stronger than most other Mistborn. So if he was given a boost, it was a much bigger one than the Mistsnapped.

Preservation was also in much better condition at that point.

I don't think he went from zero to were he's at, that would have been too much of an investment on Leras's part, but I do think it's possible if not likely that his power was boosted.

[Kingsdaughter613 she/her]

Just now, Frustration said:

Preservation was also in much better condition at that point.

I don't think he went from zero to were he's at, that would have been too much of an investment on Leras's part, but I do think it's possible if not likely that his power was boosted.

It would have had to have been.

Basically:

Elend and Vin - 100% 

Kelsier - 70 -75% 

Average Noble - 50% 

Mistsnapped - boosted from 20-30% to 35-45% 

If Kelsier started out with the Allomantic potential of the Mistsnapped - say 30% - Preservation would have had to boost him considerably to get him to 70-75%.

[LewsTherinTelescope]

6 hours ago, Kingsdaughter613 said:

Here’s a theory: Kelsier didn’t snap in the Pits. Instead Preservation actively transformed him into an allomancer, like Saze would later do to Spook.

Reasons to suspect this:

1: its really strange that Kell didn’t Snap before if he had the potential after 16 months in the Pits even if his threshold was higher.

2: the Mistsnapped were weaker than other allomancers. Kelsier was noted to be unusually strong, so it’s unlikely he experienced that kind of Snapping.

It wouldn't surprise me, especially with this part of SH:

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Do better, Kelsier, Preservation commanded, his voice fading. If the end comes, get them below ground. It might help. And remember … remember what I told you, so long ago.… Do what I cannot, Kelsier.…
 

SURVIVE.
 

The word vibrated through him, and Kelsier gasped. He knew that feeling, remembered that exact command. He’d heard that voice in the Pits. Waking him, driving him forward.
 

Saving him.

Also, wait, sixteen months? Where's that coming from? That is... a mighty suspicious number. Hm.

Edited April 1, 2021 by LewsTherinTelescope

[Kingsdaughter613 she/her]

6 minutes ago, LewsTherinTelescope said:

It wouldn't surprise me, especially with this part of SH:

Also, wait, sixteen months? Where's that coming from? That is... a mighty suspicious number. Hm.

Kelsier spent 16 months in the pits according to Demoux.

“This doesn’t seem like a simple anomaly, my lord,” Demoux said. “It’s precise. The same number keeps showing up, over and over. Sixteen.”

Elend shook his head. “Even if it does, Demoux, it doesn’t mean anything. It’s just a number.”

“It’s the number of months the Survivor spent in the Pits of Hathsin,” Demoux said.

“Coincidence.”

No one ever suggests Kell didn’t spend sixteen months in the Pits, so... And yes, that’s a very suspicious length of time!

[LewsTherinTelescope]

1 minute ago, Kingsdaughter613 said:

Kelsier spent 16 months in the pits according to Demoux.

“This doesn’t seem like a simple anomaly, my lord,” Demoux said. “It’s precise. The same number keeps showing up, over and over. Sixteen.”

Elend shook his head. “Even if it does, Demoux, it doesn’t mean anything. It’s just a number.”

“It’s the number of months the Survivor spent in the Pits of Hathsin,” Demoux said.

“Coincidence.”

No one ever suggests Kell didn’t spend sixteen months in the Pits, so... And yes, that’s a very suspicious length of time!

.....huh. Interesting indeed. Thanks for the quote. Yeah, that's extremely suspicious. It's kind of funny how a random little number makes me like the theory so much more lol.

[Shard of Reading he/him]

18 hours ago, More Cynical Than Funny said:

Perfect

 

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Wow, that image came out big.

[Chinkoln he/him]

21 minutes ago, Shard of Reading said:

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Wow, that image came out big.

Me and Anarchy had a 15 minute discussion debating whether or not to post that, but decided against it to keep it on topic. Opportunity missed

[Frustration]

What I find intresting is that the mods all say that we're scarrier, and the Theorists all say we aren't this tells me one of two things either

1. We can scare the mods!
2. Or much more likely the mods just aren't scarred of each other.

[Aspiring Writer]

On 4/4/2021 at 1:34 PM, More Cynical Than Funny said:

Perfect

 

... I'm so sorry.

[Frustration]

Just now, Aspiring Writer said:

... I'm so sorry.

NO! NO!

Oh, you said yes.

ok, that's fine