Long Game 66: A Struggle for Power

[Experience he/him]

9 hours ago, Lahilt said:

I am finally back. So the reason for my vote against you @Experience was more of me thinking that If i was elim i would try to have at least one elim earning more boxings than any body else in an attempt to buy the lerasium. You seemed to fit that with your pattern of trying to get the most post and long RP. I did not think about the elims getting 20% of their kills boxings  I am thinking that the village has possibly a thief or two? To counter act that. Of course this does not mean your guilty or anything you just fit the bill for my thinking as an elim. Also another player who might fit the bill would be Xino with their long 200 words of role discussion.

Also i am thinking we should maybe make a bigger vote train closer too the end of the cycle. Because with all the possibilities of vote manipulation, and if we just leave it to vote manipulation it is a lot less likely that we lynch an Elim. Also a lynch kills boxings would go to more different players and i think that might be a benifit to the village.

And i just wrote this long post rambling on about boxings all to get one more. 

Experience defend yourself when you get time. I would like to hear it.

Actually, that's a pretty good reason. I still need to go and update my money table. I know that xino has more money than me, and pyro ended up getting the boxings for most posts. Of course, I think that maybe you shouldn't vote on me just because I'm making some money, (I may or may not be biased) and maybe instead voting on someone who you may have suspicions of. 

If that means me, than ok. I guess I'm ok with getting lynched if it will help the village to get info, but I don't really want to die.(who does?) At least not so soon. 

3 hours ago, Elandera said:

It all seems like an unexperienced elim move. Experience is just new enough (and I don't believe he's been an elim yet), that it's probable that it was a panic response from elim!Experience.

I do see where you're coming from, but I don't know if a villager would immediately assume that the other person in the suggested scenario would have to be elim. 

 

2 hours ago, TJ Shade said:

Yeah, it looks like they totally forgot V/V interaction. And they trusted Araris too quickly.

If it is the case of an inexperienced elim, I do wonder if the elims would make a move to bus them lest they reveal more from E/E interactions here. Hmmm, I wonder if that's what you and Araris are doing here 

Let's do a vote count! There hasn't been one in this cycle.

Experience (2) - Elandera, Lahilt
Araris Valerian (2) - Magestar, Xinoehp
Karnage (2) - Ashbringer, Pyromancer
Magestar (1) - Araris Valerian
Emi (1) - Karnage
DrakeMarshall (1) - TJ
Ventyl (1) - DrakeMarshall

I didn't trust Araris automatically. It's just they were one of the only people with analysis during D1, and I really didn't want to nor did I have the time to go look through 20 pages to analyse myself. Now about the vote, I really would rather not die if I had to, and so I'm going to place a vote on... I don't know. I want to put it on someone with a vote to add them to the tie, but I don't really want to vote any of them at least not right now. 

[Ookla-son-son-Ventyl]

5 hours ago, DrakeMarshall said:

I suspected you because your actions initially looked like an elimy mixture of caution about drawing attention to yourself and trying to get certain people suspected. That's part of why I made an effort to confront you on it, because the way you responded would help reveal where your priorities lie in this game. For what it's worth my suspicion of you has toned down during this cycle. I'm thinking that the parts I found suspicious are just aspects of your playstyle and less strongly alignment indicative.

As for Kynedath? I don't entirely remember. I'll comb back through their posts and see if it jogs my memory, though.

Now, we are halfway through the day already. I'd expect a more vibrant lynch discussion than this, considering what we had on D1. Kind of makes me wonder about the current lynch candidates. Also kind of makes me want to stir things up because right now the lynch is waaaaay more boring than D1 lynch  Probably won't last, though.

I'm still awaiting Magestar's response to my question, and not entirely disinclined to vote for them, but... Right now...

Ventyl (@Ventyl), how do you plea?

And now a word from our favorite agency...

I plea not guilty sir, but that’s probably expected.

(I can’t figure out how to get this quote to work, because I’m on my IPAD, so I’m just copy/pasting it)
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Drake:
”Sure:

• The way you are going about things feels pretty different from last time we were in a game, which if I remember was this game's predecessor, in which you were a villager.
• There were parts of your reasoning on D1 that seemed a bit off to me.
• The fact that your main activity this cycle is self-defense when you don't even have any votes yet is a bit telling.

No one of these weigh that much against you, but together it's reason enough to suspect you, at this point.”

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I’ll respond to each point in order just to clarify.

• This is probably because I have a bit more free time than all of my previous games. This allows me to put more time into making post, though I have been getting distracted with other things lately , and giving analysis. Also, I’d like to say I’ve become a better player since then, considering that was my first game, but that’s probably just my biased opinion.
• I can see why this is suspicious. My reasoning was that since he was so interested in the Firesoul role, couldn’t it be a play to make people think he wasn’t one, because normally I would think offering discussion about your role too much would lead people to finding your role, so it could’ve been reverse psychology. Obviously, it wasn’t though, so I guess I feel for something that wasn’t even supposed to be fallen for. (Should probably take back my statement about me being a better player )
• I’d disagree with this very much, my only post before this one was me asking you to clarify your read on my. Seeing as other people did that, by this logic shouldn’t you be suspicious of all of them? No, people just want to know why so they can make an actual response. Which is what I’m doing, and by the time I’ve made this post you have a vote on me. Also the reason I haven’t voted is because I’m suspicious of multiple people and I don’t know which one to vote on.
   

In conclusion, I’m not going to put my vote on you yet, because unlike most I’m getting a slightly more village read of you. My read is mainly in part that I have bigger suspicions on other people, this could lead to my death, but I don’t think you’re an elim.

 

EDIT:

Expect a post by pst analysis of my first suspicion coming soon!

Edited June 8, 2020 by Ventyl

[Magestar he/him]

RP time I guess.

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It was difficult to be surprised that another individual had died.  Locking a group of people up together, telling them there's a traitor, and leave them to there own devices?  It was a recipe for disaster.

Reginald puffed away at his pipe.  What had been surprising, however, was the person who'd died.  Adomert,  Reginald thought.  How odd.  Reginald hadn't even remembered seeing them before.  It was truly bizarre.  Who had killed them, and why?  Reginald had spent quite some time thinking about this.  He'd stared at the body for a while, unsure what he was looking for, or why.  The man's clothing had been ruined by blood, of course.  There wasn't much he could tell about the way they'd been killed, at least not before their body had been removed by Darson's men.  All that was left was the odd contraption they'd left behind.  Reginald had eyed it for a while, but he was not a man of science.  It would likely have been useless to examine it further.

Reginald stalked angrily down the hall.  Another one dead.  And for what?  At this rate, Darson would sacrifice all his Metalborn just to weed out a few traitors.  Ridiculous.  Reginald would be surprised if Darson made it through the next couple of days.  Darson would be the target now, with both the Metalborn he'd held hostage and the traitors on his back.

Reginald shook his head.  He was letting himself get sidetracked.  Adomert's invention.  That was the only clue.  He'd have to take another look at it...

[Ashbringer he/him]

9 hours ago, The Young Pyromancer said:

Sorry for the double-post, but quoting something: Ashbringer said they'd also lynch hatz. They did not mention walin, which seemed like a preference to me. Something to look into if Walin is elim/Hatz is village...

 

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Pyro: I mean, we could lynch Walin or Iluvhatz.

Drake: The latter does have a character name that sounds decidedly villainous... 

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Pyro: We could shift Hatz up there into tie-range as well.

Ash: {After Magestar's vote on me} Well, now I have an interest in self-preservation. Karnage. Sorry. I’ll move to Hatz if you post/more people vote for Hatz.

Pyro: {To Coda} Read Ash's thing. Karnage Hatz.

Hmm. Pyro, speaking of not mentioning things, you took out @Walin out out of your lynch recommendations halfway through. I wasn't the first to only mention Hatz, you were. I just took the one most referenced in the thread.

(I can't get the quote to copy-paste with the box and everything, but see for yourself, page 27 of the main thread.)

Also, WHY IS EVERYONE DOUBLE POSTING.

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A small cabinet opened on one of the walls, and out jumped a kitten.

Raow the kitten was very confused. Just yesterday, a large quantity of people had come into his house. He didn't know who they were, although he could see his landlord among the crowd, laughing and cheering and yelling and pointing and waving around steel objects like the rest. Raow thought this might be unusual, but Raow wasn't very experienced with thinking. He'd only started about a week ago.

Raow decided to walk around a bit. It appeared that his landlord had forgot to set out his food bowl again, but no matter; he did see his landlord was very busy, and he'd found where they kept the food two days ago. Raow hopped up to the cabinet, then pawed open the door to see that bag of delicious... pellets. Raow sighed, then started to eat. He'd have to try human food sometime.

Appetite sated to its normal level - Raow knew that eating too much could be bad, but he wasn't sure how, he wasn't very experienced with thinking - Raow decided to go for a walk. Avoiding humans' legs, tables, and chairs, Raow took a look at the different people. They were all smiling, which was good, but for the first time he noticed how tense those smiles were. They looked happy, but he didn't think they were.

Raow decided to investigate a little. He hopped on a table, copper fur gleaming in the lamplight. "Mraow?" he asked the gathered individuals.

If anyone had looked closely, started petting carefully, they may have noticed four tiny, gleaming copper circles in the fur of Raow's spine. Raow thought they were a little strange. His landlord had put them in a week ago, and they had hurt terribly. But now, he barely thought about them. Raow wasn't very experienced with thinking.

[Shard of Reading he/him]

Oh, crud! It's a Hemalurgic kitten!

[Mat he/him]

1 minute ago, Shard of Reading said:

Oh, crud! It's a Hemalurgic kitten!

Yeah, I was just thinking that! Beware the Spiked Cat!

[Magestar he/him]

19 minutes ago, Ashbringer said:

Also, WHY IS EVERYONE DOUBLE POSTING.

Because the mods aren't cracking down.  Why in my day *devolves into old man noises*

Ok, so I've finished analyzing all of Araris' posts and unfortunately he reads rather village.  I don't necessarily agree with everything he does, or the reasons behind why he's doing them, but in the very least I think I understand how he justifies his actions.  As for why I'm taking my vote off of him, it's mainly because I don't think he'd be pushing discussion, analysis, and posting reads as much as he has been if he was an Elim.  There are a few odd things about that, such as the fact he's not sharing his own analysis...  we'll see.  I also noticed a lot of our posts and thoughts on the game lining up.  It's possible that he's just really good at playing villager as an Elim, but I'm not good enough to say.  Most importantly, I don't think his death will give me as many answers as I'd like.

So, in other news, Ashbringer.  I've discussed my suspicion of them before... I have a little more to go on now.  I might bring it up later if I feel so inclined.  We'll see.  I also feel like I'd learn a bit from their death.

There are other people I'd be willing to vote on, namely Drake and Karnage, but I'd like to diversify the lynch a little, to borrow one of Araris' phrases.

[|TJ| he/him]

Praise the Lord Ruler someone is discussing voting again. @Magestar diversifying the votes at the beginning, I understand. I feel at this time, we should be shoring them up, not spreading them thin. 

38 minutes ago, Ashbringer said:

Hmm. Pyro, speaking of not mentioning things, you took out @Walin out out of your lynch recommendations halfway through. I wasn't the first to only mention Hatz, you were. I just took the one most referenced in the thread.

Does that mean you'd be totally fine if we were to hypothetically lynch Walin this cycle?

[StrikerEZ he/him]

I'd just like to say that double posts are going to be edited together before I run the program that determines whether or not your post is over 200 words. And double posting is against the rules. So not only are you losing out on boxings by double posting, you're also breaking the rules. If you really have something more to say, wait until someone else posts after you or edit it into your post.

[Ookla-son-son-Ventyl]

Okay this is going to be my first of two full post analysis! There might be a third, but I’m not as suspicious of them as I am of Experience and the next one. Well, here we go!

START OF THE GAME

1st (NAI): Says they should go read the rules, makes a joke about formatting
2nd (NAI): Makes joke poke on Joe. 
3rd (Very slight village): Talks about possibility of two kandra, seems like a village worry, I’ve had this thought too, but as they pointed out it’s unlikely because of the amount of players, so I didn’t post about it.
4th (NAI): Statement about how Pyro was making so many post, says they’ll have to catch up. (I also tried to, but realized it was futile)
5th (NAI): Question about game, nothing to say about this one.
6th (NAI): Another question about boxings.
7th (Very slight village): Says the don’t understand all the poke votes on Mist. 
8th (NAI): Another question, though it’s about another question this time!
9th (NAI): Nothing to say, just a reply to Pyro/
10th (Slight elim): Makes an excuse for not wanting to make longer posts, could be just wanting more boxings, but could also be a valid attempt to steer people away from game related discussion.
11th (Very slight elim): Says they are going to try to do more, longer game related posts, but they don’t for a while.
12th (NAI): 200+ word (I think) RP.
13th (Very very slight elim): Ask more questions about boxings, seems slightly worried about the possibility of not getting lerasium soon. Maybe this is because they’re elim, but I can also see why a villager would want to get it.
14th (NAI): Another question about the boxing cap
15th (Slight village): Talks about the amount of posts. Says they’ll try to do an analysis.
16th (NAI): Talks about how Striker PAFO’d his questions.
17th (NAI): Joke about RP.
18th (NAI): Talks about RP.
19th (Slight elim): Talks about the Firesoul bomb and how it could be used to kill elims. Could be an elim making themself seem more village, but would one or maybe two elims be worth killing substantially more villagers?
20th (NAI): Talks about Xino’s word counts.
21st (NAI): Asks Araris to clarify his read.
22nd (NAI): Poke votes Hatz.
23rd (NAI): Says that they are trying to get an analysis, but not much to go off.
24th (Very slight village): Wonders if his poke vote is the reason Araris voted on him, doesn’t vote back.
25th (Very slight village): Responds to Pyro saying that the previous post was suspicious.
26th (NAI): Asks Pyro a question.
27th (NAI): Says the one question post are getting out of hand (Which while making this analysis, I agree)
28th (Very slight elim): Says how they were hoping you couldn’t give boxings, because then elims could pile up and buy the lerasium bead. Could be a misdirect?
29th (NAI): Clarifies something about the previous post.
30th (Very very slight elim): Ask a question about passing items, maybe because they want to know how to for the elim team? 
31st (NAI): Nothing game related.
32nd (Elim): Still has not made an attempt at two hundred plus word game analysis, but asks to RP for coins. Seems like they are trying to avoid game-related discussion.
33rd (NAI): Asks why Magestar is suspicious of him.
34th (NAI): Asks for a vote count.
35th (NAI): Talks about votes, says they don’t want to look back.
36th (NAI): Gives a NAI read on Xino, talks about ties.
37th (Slight elim): Says they want a train. Their reasoning being they don’t want to die because of a tie. As I said about mist, I don’t like starting a lynch train unless I think someone has a chance of being an elim.
38th (Elim): Says we might not want to use up an action. Also gives a village read on Araris. Votes on Coda because of Araris’s statement that he thinks Experience and Coda aren’t on the same team. Considering the outcome of the lynch, by their own logic, they could be an elim. There is always a chance of them being village, but this is one of their more suspicious post at this point.
39th (NAI): Gives a post count for him and Pyro. What’s funny is that my post count for him is 6 more than his…
40th (NAI): Says they’ll send Striker a list of post counts
41st (NAI): Says sorry for double posting, though looking back on the thread I don;t see a double post…
42nd (NAI): Double posting joke.
43rd (NAI): More double posting conversations (I got ninja’d by Pyro here, sad)
44th (NAI): Talks about ninja twinborn…
45th (NAI): More jokes incur...
46th (NAI): More jokes incur...
47th (NAI): More jokes incur...
48th (Very very slight elim): Starts off with a joke. Replies to Araris, but leaves vote on Coda, only because Araris vote they were a good lynch target.
49th (NAI): Talks about post counts
50th (Very very slight elim): Joke about lynching Pyro. Then replies to Araris post about lynching Pyro and killing Experience, says only the first part.
51st (NAI): More jokes incur…
52nd (NAI): Responds to Pyro and makes a joke.
53rd (NAI): RP
54th (Slight village): Talks about the elim team, how there could be at least one experienced player.
55th (Slight elim): Says they agrees with the count for most post only using 200+ word post, but yet has only done RP with 200 words or more. Still looks like they are avoiding game related post.
56th (Slight elim): Says they are working on more RP, why not work on some game related post?
57th (NAI): More RP. Note, the post itself is NAI, but the lack of game related post is making me suspicious.
58th (NAI): RP discussion.
59th (NAI): Nothing important.
60th (NAI): Even more RP
61st (NAI): Oh my god, I’m regretting the decision to do this analysis…
62nd (NAI): Nothing useful.
63rd (NAI): Talks about post count
64th (NAI): More RP discussion, yet again, where is any game related post at this point?
65th (NAI): Asks what hurk is…
66th (NAI): Yet again, more RP…
67th (NAI): Talks about page count.
68th (NAI): RP galore.
69th (NAICE): Talks about his character.
70th (NAI): RP, asks for a vote count.
71st (NAI): More RP.
72nd-76th (NAI): Nothing useful, mainly RP.
77th (NAI): Responds to Pyro’s vote on him.
78th/79th (NAI): Nothing useful
80th (Slight village): Finally says they are up to do game related post
81st (NAI): Responds to Pyro about length of post.
82nd (Very slight village): Says sorry about doing very short posts.
83rd (NAI): Nothing useful………..
84th (Slight Elim): Ask to RP and for votecount, still hasn’t done any real analysis yet.
85th (NAI): More RP, yet again…
86th (NAI): Thanks Xino for advice.
87th (Slight village): Talks about votes on Mist.
88th (NAI): Says they’re going to make a vote count.
89th (NAI): Guess what? Nothing helpful…
90th (Slight Elim): Wants to go back to RP, still seems to me like they’re avoiding game related discussion.
91st (NAI): Makes a vote count.
92nd (NAI): Asks a question about the vote count.
93rd (NAI): Asks who my first post by post analysis is of, figures out it’s of Coda.
94th (NAI): Talks about the lynch and how we’ll find out about vote manipulation anyway.
95th (NAI): Continues on about vote manipulation.
96th (Slight village): This village reading is because he gives a little analysis and at that point in the game, I give a village read to anyone who does actual analysis.
97th (NAI): Keeps vote on Coda
98th (Slight elim): Says they are going to keep track of votes, post count, and expected income. Says they find themselves with lots of time, then why didn’t you make more game analysis @Experience?
99th (NAI): Question about MU game.
100th, YAY, but not yay (Very slight village): Says they had game related discussion with Pyro, I’m assuming in PMs. Why not in thread?
101st (NAI): Says they have to do something IRL.

END OF DAY ONE

102nd (Slight Elim): Talks about how they didn’t have the most post. Then ask to do more RP.

END OF NIGHT ONE

103rd (NAI): Asks Elandera why they have the vote on them other than that Araris was suspicious of them. Talks about boxing count.
104th (Slight village): Asks how doing a little more analysis is suspicious.
105th (NAI): Says they don’t have much time, asks why Lahilt voted on them.
106th, the latest post at the time I’m making this. (Slight elim): Trys dissuade Lahilt from voting on him, but says he’d be fine with getting lynched. Seems like a misdirect to me. Says they want to vote, but don’t know who.

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Alright, I hope this is helpful and appreciated. Well it better be, because I skipped breakfast to write this post .

Edited June 8, 2020 by Ventyl
Formatting

[Shard of Reading he/him]

Who is that post analasis of @Ventyl?

[Magestar he/him]

Just now, TJ Shade said:

Praise the Lord Ruler someone is discussing voting again. @Magestar diversifying the votes at the beginning, I understand. I feel at this time, we should be shoring them up, not spreading them thin. 

Psh.  That's what the last half hour of the cycle is for!

In all seriousness however, it's not like there's a solid lynch right now for me to try and shore up.  With the amount of vote canceling that went on last cycle, I don't feel that adding my vote to the three way tie would be very helpful.  Ideally, I'd like to receive some feedback on my vote.  It'd be great to have people agree with me and get Ash lynched, but like I said, there are other people I'd be willing to vote on if I hear mostly negative feedback surrounding my suspicions of Ash.  I'm going to wait a bit before I do anything else with my vote.

Of course, if you feel inclined to also vote on Ash, that'd be great.  It wouldn't shore anything up, per se, but if you really wanted to do that you could vote on one of the three tied individuals.

And good grief Ventyl.  Did you really go through all of Exp's posts?  That's insane.  I've been struggling to even get through the lower posters.    I'm intrigued by what you've done, and I see the individual Elim-leaning posts you've pointed out.  However, I also see a lot of village lean posts.  Am I right in saying the main reason you're suspicious of them is because they appear to be avoiding game discussion, or is there more to it than that?  A TL:DR might be helpful to consolidate your suspicions, even in a new post.

[|TJ| he/him]

7 minutes ago, Shard of Reading said:

Who is that post analasis of @Ventyl?

Experience. 

3 minutes ago, Magestar said:

  Am I right in saying the main reason you're suspicious of them is because they appear to be avoiding game discussion, or is there more to it than that? 

Yeah I kinda agree that almost all their elim readings are based on RP. Still @Ventyl I appreciate you doing this! I know it's pain to go through 30+ pages sifting for information in what is 70% absolute crem. I did the same when I analysed the voting sequences of players in the last cycle. 

So... we have 6 inactive players this cycle - @Emi, @Walin, @Kynedath, @Elkanah, @The_God_King and @ILuvHats. It'd be great if you chipped in guys!

[Ookla-son-son-Ventyl]

@Shard of Reading, it’s a post by post analysis of Experience.

15 minutes ago, Magestar said:

Psh.  That's what the last half hour of the cycle is for!

In all seriousness however, it's not like there's a solid lynch right now for me to try and shore up.  With the amount of vote canceling that went on last cycle, I don't feel that adding my vote to the three way tie would be very helpful.  Ideally, I'd like to receive some feedback on my vote.  It'd be great to have people agree with me and get Ash lynched, but like I said, there are other people I'd be willing to vote on if I hear mostly negative feedback surrounding my suspicions of Ash.  I'm going to wait a bit before I do anything else with my vote.

Of course, if you feel inclined to also vote on Ash, that'd be great.  It wouldn't shore anything up, per se, but if you really wanted to do that you could vote on one of the three tied individuals.

And good grief Ventyl.  Did you really go through all of Exp's posts?  That's insane.  I've been struggling to even get through the lower posters.    I'm intrigued by what you've done, and I see the individual Elim-leaning posts you've pointed out.  However, I also see a lot of village lean posts.  Am I right in saying the main reason you're suspicious of them is because they appear to be avoiding game discussion, or is there more to it than that?  A TL:DR might be helpful to consolidate your suspicions, even in a new post.

Yes, I did go through all of his post, and yes, it is indeed insane. 

Also, taking your suggestion, here’s a TL:DR of my analysis:
I think Experience has a chance of being an elim, mainly because it seems like they try to avoid game-related post and analysis whenever possible. As many have pointed out before, the lack of game-related post probably made the elims very happy, and Experience trying to keep it that way just reeks elim!Experience to me.

EDIT:

ninja’d by TJ

Edited June 8, 2020 by Ventyl

[Emi she/her]

2 minutes ago, TJ Shade said:

Experience. 

Yeah I kinda agree that almost all their elim readings are based on RP. Still @Ventyl I appreciate you doing this! I know it's pain to go through 30+ pages sifting for information in what is 70% absolute crem. I did the same when I analysed the voting sequences of players in the last cycle. 

So... we have 6 inactive players this cycle - @Emi, @Walin, @Kynedath, @Elkanah, @The_God_King and @ILuvHats. It'd be great if you chipped in guys!

Oh, sorry! I forgot to follow this day and I didn’t realized that there are active people here. Thanks for mentioning me, now I will try to be active!

[Experience he/him]

25 minutes ago, Ventyl said:

19th (Slight elim): Talks about the Firesoul bomb and how it could be used to kill elims. Could be an elim making themself seem more village, but would one or maybe two elims be worth killing substantially more villagers?

I don't remember even doing this. Let me go and check this out. 

Also, I don't really get why everyone is getting after me for not wanting game-related discussion. One thing is that pyro had even more posts than I did, and no body has said anything about them. 

And @Ventyl I'm feeling village, because I think it's very unlikely that an elim would look through 100+ of my posts. And to answer your question about me having time, I just had some extra time on the first day, and that's when I was going for the most posts. I generally don't have as much time to do 17th shard on the weekends because I'm spending time with family, and I still need to update my charts, but after that I'll try to start doing some analysis of people. 

[Ashbringer he/him]

29 minutes ago, TJ Shade said:

Does that mean you'd be totally fine if we were to hypothetically lynch Walin this cycle?

Sure. I’d rather lynch someone I/we have listed suspicions about than an inactive, but lynching Walin would be fine by me.

... not that I could say much different in this situation...

I’m still more suspicious of Pyro and Karnage (and kinda Drake) but I hereby pledge to join a vote train on Walin (assuming it isn’t started by any of those three, in which we should be cautious).

Speaking of situations, I kinda get the suspicions on me from Mage. Last round I was trying to be overly neutral and that... very much backfired, so this round I’m going into “I’m village and if you lynch me it will prove it” mindset/gambit. I’m just happy I didn’t get lynched C1 for all my Kandra conspiracy theories .

However, I still don’t want to be dead. I’m having too much fun to be dead, and while I agree it could help to know for certain my alignment, there are individuals it would be better, in my opinion.

[Magestar he/him]

4 minutes ago, TJ Shade said:

So... we have 6 inactive players this cycle - @Emi, @Walin, @Kynedath, @Elkanah, @The_God_King and @ILuvHats. It'd be great if you chipped in guys!

Has Walin posted at all this game?  Kinda makes the Devotary kill the other night even weirder.

3 minutes ago, Ventyl said:

I think Experience has a chance of being an elim, mainly because it seems like they try to avoid game-related post and analysis whenever possible. As many have pointed out before, the lack of game-related post probably made the elims very happy, and Experience trying to keep it that way just reeks elim!Experience to me.

Ah gotcha.  I sort of see what you're saying, but not enough to jump on an Experience lynch myself.

I know one of the people Araris actually did provide some explanation for this suspicions on was Experience... I don't know.  If they flip Elim, I wouldn't necessarily be surprised, but I don't know that I'd know where to go from there.  In that, I kind of see what people are saying about them avoiding game discussion.  However, I wouldn't say that's true more than it is of any number of other players in the game at the moment.

This does mean we have a clear lynch now, without any vote manipulation.  I see Experience has ninja'd me.  You still haven't voted or really said much about your reads this cycle, however.  I'd love to hear a bit about those.

Just now, Experience said:

Also, I don't really get why everyone is getting after me for not wanting game-related discussion. One thing is that pyro had even more posts than I did, and no body has said anything about them. 

The main difference here in my mind is that Pyro has given their reads on a few people, IIRC.  And personally, you and Pyro are about on the same level for me. I wouldn't be surprised necessarily if either of you were Elims, I don't have particularly strong suspicions of either of you, and I doubt the both of you would be Elims together.

[Ashbringer he/him]

Walin and Hatz have both not posted at all, I believe.

Devotary hadn’t posted either (I think), but apparently responded to a PM of Pyro’s, while Walin and Hatz did not.

Edit: Incendiaries, Activate!

Edited June 8, 2020 by Ashbringer

[|TJ| he/him]

14 minutes ago, Magestar said:

Has Walin posted at all this game?  Kinda makes the Devotary kill the other night even weirder.

27 minutes ago, Ventyl said:

No they haven't posted at all. Hatz and them are 2 who haven't posted at all. If there are inactive among elims, we can guess it by observing which inactive player they skirt around while submitting their kill actions (if they continue killing inactive players, that is). 

Edit: Ninja'd by Ash

Edited June 8, 2020 by TJ Shade

[The Young Pyromancer he/him]

Huh. I was the first to pick Hatz? Not what I remember, but whatever...

I'd be fine with Walin. Not sure why I was voting on Karnage anyways...  

[Mat he/him]

Ok, FINALLY had some time to sit down and analyze some stuff. Thank goodness it isn't another 20 page thread. Here I'll go through the main lynch candidates and give my thoughts, though fair warning: I am not casting a vote, as none of them seem enough of anything for me to feel like I should. That might just be my lack of skill at analyzation though.

Experience: So, I don't see that much elim from him at all. The only other game I've played isn't over, and Experience isn't dead, so I can't really go off past interactions, but I'm reading village. I don't think anyone really has that solid reasoning for lynching Experience- other then info- but if anyone does, please say, so I can try to understand it.

(At this point everyone else has one vote. So here are the most discussed.)

Ashbringer: I have to say, this is the one I would be most suspicious of. They discussed nothing but the Kandra early on, and voted on Karnage for no reason I could decipher. This could just be new-player syndrome, but I dunno.

Araris: Including Araris here because I voted them D1. Reading the thread it sounds like what I found suspicious was their normal playstyle, so I have no reading on them.

Interested to see how the cycle progresses, maybe I'll cast a vote when I feel more solid about a candidate.

[StrikerEZ he/him]

Experience (3): Elandera, Lahilt, Ventyl
Araris Valerian (1): xinoehp512
Ashbringer (1): Magestar
DrakeMarshall (1): TJ Shade
Emi (1): Karnage
Karnage (1): Ashbringer
Magestar (1): Araris Valerian
Ventyl (1): DrakeMarshall
Walin (1): The Young Pyromancer

Here's the current vote count, in case anyone is interested. Please tell me if anything is inaccurate, because I'll be using this as the official count to base things off of as things change for these last 7.5 hours or so.
 

[The Young Pyromancer he/him]

Where's the vote on Emi from?

[StrikerEZ he/him]

2 minutes ago, The Young Pyromancer said:

Where's the vote on Emi from?

I'm pretty sure Karnage voted for Emi? Or did Emi vote on Karnage? I might've messed that up.

EDIT: I did not mess it up. You must've just missed that vote.

Edited June 8, 2020 by StrikerEZ