The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Experience said: Which makes it very impossible that someone has vote manipulation now, unless there's an allomantic vote manip Most vote manip is allomantic I think.
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 Soothing and rioting are certainly the most reliable vote manips, yeah.
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 Just now, DrakeMarshall said: Soothing and rioting are certainly the most reliable vote manips, yeah. And iconic. For reference: Soothers cancel a vote, Rioters move a vote but cancel your own. Kind of like Smugglers/Impersonators from the MR.
Elandera she/her Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Experience said: I didn't miss it, I just changed it to Elandera, because they replaced Silber. @StrikerEZ, does that vote still happen on Elandera, or was it negated when they replaced silber? 26 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: That's a good question. I assumed voting on a player that got replaced wouldn't carry over but I can see why it would be logical to transfer the vote over to Elandera. The logic is that I'm not a new player that's been added to the list, but instead taking over for Lord Sil. All votes and actions that target him now target me. Including all the PMs he was in. I think it was @Magestar who mentioned it, but the nighttime game-relevant discussion probably stemmed from me, which will continue. I work nights in the US, so that's when I'm awake to do things. Sorry this post isn't super game-related. I just woke up and tried to sift through three more pages of mostly irrelevant data. I'm not getting a solid read on anyone, though I trust those actually pushing for AI content more. Elims would be perfectly content with how things are. EDIT: Ninja'd a lot. @The Young Pyromancer, the most reliable manipulation is a Feruchemist who wants to store metals. That cancels their vote. Edited June 5, 2020 by Elandera
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Elandera said: the most reliable manipulation is a Feruchemist who wants to store metals. That cancels their vote. Depends on their metal, but yes. That, however, would be easier to spot than something like Soothing.
Experience he/him Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Elandera said: The logic is that I'm not a new player that's been added to the list, but instead taking over for Lord Sil. All votes and actions that target him now target me. Including all the PMs he was in. I think it was @Magestar who mentioned it, but the nighttime game-relevant discussion probably stemmed from me, which will continue. I work nights in the US, so that's when I'm awake to do things. Sorry this post isn't super game-related. I just woke up and tried to sift through three more pages of mostly irrelevant data. I'm not getting a solid read on anyone, though I trust those actually pushing for AI content more. Elims would be perfectly content with how things are. Wow. Activity dropped down to almost nothing! This is kind of crazy! Also, something I wanted to add about coda. I had dropped a joke vote on Joe, because I was planning to vote on them before the game started and then they didn't join. Anyway, then coda comes along and does the same exact same thing. This just seems a little unusual to me, like he saw that people weren't making any comments about my vote on Joe so they did it as well. Yay for game-realated thoughts!
Elandera she/her Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, The Young Pyromancer said: Depends on their metal, but yes. That, however, would be easier to spot than something like Soothing. Yeah, I just skimmed through the rules again and realized my mistake. I read the thing for steel at the top of the list and assumed that would apply to all Feruchemists. EDIT: And @Experience, about Coda's vote, that seems very in line with their playstyle, even as village. I don't think it's worth a lynch there yet. Edited June 5, 2020 by Elandera
Experience he/him Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Elandera said: Yeah, I just skimmed through the rules again and realized my mistake. I read the thing for steel at the top of the list and assumed that would apply to all Feruchemists. EDIT: And @Experience, about Coda's vote, that seems very in line with their playstyle, even as village. I don't think it's worth a lynch there yet. Ok, though I think I'm going to keep my vote on them for now. EDIT: Wow @DrakeMarshall, like 4 out of your 6 200+ posts have exactly 200 words. I wonder if you just typed until you hit 200 then stopped? I also noticed that some of xino's were like that as well. What's up with stopping at exactly 200? Edited June 5, 2020 by Experience
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Experience said: Ok, though I think I'm going to keep my vote on them for now. Yeah, them being more active this game is a bit sus, but I'm gut village on them due to PM interactions.
Experience he/him Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 I am now recording total number of posts, vote count, and expected income for each player. Does anyone have anymore ideas for anything else to keep track of, because I'm finding myself with nothing but time.
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 Just now, Experience said: I am now recording total number of posts, vote count, and expected income for each player. Does anyone have anymore ideas for anything else to keep track of, because I'm finding myself with nothing but time. You could offer to sub in the MU game.
Experience he/him Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 Just now, The Young Pyromancer said: You could offer to sub in the MU game. What's the MU game?
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Experience said: What's the MU game? Check the SE discord. I'm not allowed to talk about it. However, I AM allowed to talk about a DIFFERENT MU game that doesn't exist, in which you might be interested, and to which there is a link to in the 'community events' section.
Guest Coda Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 So as the vote stands, I will die. I've never died C1 before. It seems that a slight alteration to a typical playstyle invites suspicion. Oh well. I have no defense for my actions. Farewell.
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 Just now, Coda said: So as the vote stands, I will die. I've never died C1 before. It seems that a slight alteration to a typical playstyle invites suspicion. Oh well. I have no defense for my actions. Farewell. NOO! Not Coda! You've been great!
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 Quote And iconic. For reference: Soothers cancel a vote, Rioters move a vote but cancel your own. Kind of like Smugglers/Impersonators from the MR. Yeah, Soothers and Rioters are definitely iconic for Sanderson Elimination. I had Flutist and Lutist roles in my KKC mid-range game a while back that were very much inspired by the classic Soother/Rioter vote manips, with slightly different interpretations of "pushing" and "pulling" though. 1 minute ago, The Young Pyromancer said: Depends on their metal, but yes. That, however, would be easier to spot than something like Soothing. Depends on the person. It would be easy to spot for somebody who votes frequently but hard to spot for somebody who doesn't. 2 minutes ago, Experience said: Wow. Activity dropped down to almost nothing! This is kind of crazy! Also, something I wanted to add about coda. I had dropped a joke vote on Joe, because I was planning to vote on them before the game started and then they didn't join. Anyway, then coda comes along and does the same exact same thing. This just seems a little unusual to me, like he saw that people weren't making any comments about my vote on Joe so they did it as well. Yay for game-realated thoughts! Not that I'm necessarily saying you are definitively wrong to do so, but I would be careful about suspecting people for doing a thing that you also did. In order to further my quest to create a lynch with actual competition... Vote TallyCoda (4): Araris Valerian, Experience, Magestar, VentylAraris Valerian (1): KarnageLord_Silberfarben (1): LahiltMatrim's_Dice (2): The_God_King, DrakeMarshallMist (1): Shard of ReadingMagestar (1): TJ ShadeThe_God_King (1): ElkanahA Joe in the Bush (1): Coda @Matrim's_Dice you have a lot of RP which I am reluctant to discourage, but considering the amount of content you are putting out I feel somewhat justified in singling you out and voting to lynch you until you weigh in on the lynch discussion at least a little. Any thoughts are welcome.
Lahilt he/him Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 I will now change my vote to ashbringer lord silverfarben who no longer is himself
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 In the interest of not letting Coda die, as they've been great, Matrim's dice.
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 I tried change my vote to somebody who already had a vote to make an alternative lynch and consolidate the voting a little, and just when I do that somebody votes for the person I had my vote on before
Lahilt he/him Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 Did you have the vote on ash i didnt see it till after i posted
Mat he/him Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: @Matrim's_Dice you have a lot of RP which I am reluctant to discourage, but considering the amount of content you are putting out I feel somewhat justified in singling you out and voting to lynch you until you weigh in on the lynch discussion at least a little. Any thoughts are welcome. Hmm... are you saying that you are lynching me on the basis of my non-game related activity? There are multiple others who have posted only RP's as well, and more that are 100% inactive so far. Game-related discussion, lets see, well it's hard for me to catch up on 20 pages of D1 when approximately 80% isn't really game related at all. I don't agree with the Coda lynch, deviating from a normal playstyle doesn't seem like the best basis for a lynch though I do get that it is C1 and there has to be a lynch to get info, and stuff like that. In my opinion Araris has been the most suspicious to me, especially standing out in the first few pages of the thread, voting on Mist and saying it was not a poke vote later, but someone they actually wanted dead. That seems like a strange comment against someone with less than 5 posts in the games so far. And the lynch on me? I don't see any reason for it except for as an invitation for me to participate. TGK has a vote on me because of a RNG, Drake for the participation reason, and Pyro, uh, I don't even know. So I think that using the D1 lynch on someone we actually find suspicious would be a good idea. Edited June 5, 2020 by Matrim's_Dice
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: I tried change my vote to somebody who already had a vote to make an alternative lynch and consolidate the voting a little, and just when I do that somebody votes for the person I had my vote on before I'm also gut village on Ash, just from their PMing with me, but they're better than Coda. Actual explanation for Matrim: Dice has felt a little off to me. They said they know that most of the game is twinborn, than hastily backtracked and said they think based on themselves and one other. That isn't enough to make such a bold statement IMO, and so I'm thinking they might think that due to knowledge of the roles of other elims.
Mat he/him Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 Just now, The Young Pyromancer said: I'm also gut village on Ash, just from their PMing with me, but they're better than Coda. Actual explanation for Matrim: Dice has felt a little off to me. They said they know that most of the game is twinborn, than hastily backtracked and said they think based on themselves and one other. That isn't enough to make such a bold statement IMO, and so I'm thinking they might think that due to knowledge of the roles of other elims. I didn't say I know, I said I thought, based off of my own thoughts in general: Why make so may roles if there won't be plenty of twinborns to use them all? 16 Allomantic roles and 16 Feruchamel (spelling, sorry) roles is way more then the player count, and that's not even including the Kandra and the thief and hemalurgist. My bad if in our PM the statement came off as that strong, I didn't mean it as a bold claim, but rather a thought based on the amount of possible roles. Myself being a twinborn, along with another person I've PM'd strengthened that a little bit.
Araris Valerian he/him Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Matrim's_Dice said: In my opinion Araris has been the most suspicious to me, especially standing out in the first few pages of the thread, voting on Mist and saying it was not a poke vote later, but someone they actually wanted dead. That seems like a strange comment against someone with less than 5 posts in the games so far. I do this every game. What's the point in voting on someone (when the most voted on person dies) if you don't want to kill them? I already explained why poke votes are useless. 1
Mat he/him Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Araris Valerian said: I do this every game. What's the point in voting on someone (when the most voted on person dies) if you don't want to kill them? I already explained why poke votes are useless. Yeah, this is probably true. This being my second game I don't really know anyone's playstyles.
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