The Chat Thread

[+Invocation]

5 minutes ago, xinoehp512 said:

Would it be non-canon? That seems like it would work better for this sort of setting.

Maybe semi-canon. Is that a thing? Like non-canon as far as the characters are aware, but it could also help people find a thread for their character to be first introduced into.

[xinoehp512 he/him]

Could you explain a bit more? I don't think I quite get it.

[+Invocation]

Just now, xinoehp512 said:

Could you explain a bit more? I don't think I quite get it.

Like people could weigh in on where a certain character might fit in for the current plots of the various threads based on what happens there, and then the person who made the character can choose if that's actually what they want to do or not, and along the way, people can figure out if the character is actually what they want it to be or not.

[xinoehp512 he/him]

I see. I would just call that non-canon and leave it at that.

[+Invocation]

2 minutes ago, xinoehp512 said:

I see. I would just call that non-canon and leave it at that.

Fair enough.

[MacThorstenson he/him]

I think that it would be right next to the mimes headquarters. Maybe even run by the mimes. 

Edited July 4, 2019 by MacThorstenson

[xinoehp512 he/him]

Canonically, that's in the Mountain of the Gods.

[+Sorana she/her]

What about the house scenes thread? It's like the CDS thread but meant for vharacters interacting with each other in a secluded environment. To me it was super helpful to rp some character development without having to worry about someone else crashing the scene.

[MacThorstenson he/him]

19 minutes ago, Sorana said:

What about the house scenes thread? It's like the CDS thread but meant for vharacters interacting with each other in a secluded environment. To me it was super helpful to rp some character development without having to worry about someone else crashing the scene.

That still is canon, this would be before even character approval, though approved characters could still enter, and completely non canon. 

[+ZincAboutIt she/her]

On 7/4/2019 at 1:25 PM, MacThorstenson said:

That still is canon, this would be before even character approval, though approved characters could still enter, and completely non canon. 

I like this. Does this mean that I could technically have one of my own characters in two places at once, since the test-lab thread would be non canon? If so, it could be really useful to see which types of characters the new character does best with, how they vibe with any number of the current cast, etc., and then we wouldn't have to worry about creating new characters or NPC's that exclusively live in the non canon thread.

[Voidus]

1 hour ago, Grey Knight said:

Right. MCU aside, who’d be interested in moving the Alleyverse RP to a new area of the world after this Bureau of Villainy thing gets done? Away from the Alleycity, more towards the frontiers where all kinds of magics and weird stuff collide. It could be an opportunity to more deeply explore the effects of things like the Alleystorm and the eldritch abominations that escaped a while back.

 

1 hour ago, Ark's Boyfriend said:

Hmmmm I'd be interested.

 

1 hour ago, Ax's Boyfriend said:

That seems unlikely.

All the guilds have bases in the Alleycity. Some guilds are only in the Alleycity. We have too much focused there for the Alleycity to stop.

We also already have plans for the next main plot.

I would like some sort of thread that explores that more, but it would have to be set up really well, or it would just die out like the Other Side of the World plot did.

 

1 hour ago, Emperor Stick said:

Sounds interesting.

 

1 hour ago, Ax's Boyfriend said:

To be honest, only the Great Guilds would be fine in this situation.

 

1 hour ago, Ark's Boyfriend said:

Or CotW, which is in the middle of nowhere.

I just realized my boyfriend is on. Hi, boyfriend!

 

1 hour ago, Ax's Boyfriend said:

A different proposal of mine, unrelated.

I really think we need another longer time skip. Ten to twenty years.

We would extend the era by another month or two after Main Plot is finished, so people could wrap up their stuff, but we need to have a timeskip, for all sorts of reasons.

The biggest is AV children. At this rate we'll get to RP them in... seven IRL years. Whooo.

The second is a refreshment of characters. It's just fun.

The third is that the AV needs some time to develop, evolve, reasonably. Guilds can fix there systems, new guilds can emerge and grow, characters can develop if they're younger, older characters can deal with aging issues.

It just seems very helpful.

Therefore I want to try and get support for this skip.

 

1 hour ago, Ark's Boyfriend said:

Tena will be pissed that she's old, but sure.

 

1 hour ago, Ax's Boyfriend said:

That's two. Plus Woodrack and Clyde have said IRL it's a good idea (I think)

 

1 hour ago, Ark's Boyfriend said:

I already told you I supported this, by the way. But the in-between Eras thread will be long as heck.

 

1 hour ago, Emperor Stick said:

What about the Scadrial AV thread? A timeskip could really mess that up.

 

1 hour ago, Grey Knight said:

I mean no offense when I say this, but I’d like a break from main plots in general. I want some time to do small-scale RP, not to nuke the AlleyCity again.

I mean, there’s no reason we can’t have both.

 

1 hour ago, Ark's Boyfriend said:

But you had so much fun the first time!

I do think that we need to RP the inner workings of the guilds right now, though. The guilds are pretty poorly developed IC.

 

1 hour ago, Grey Knight said:

Well, yes. But those were extenuating circumstances. Doing it now would just be a tragedy of Shakespearean proportions.

 

1 hour ago, Ark's Boyfriend said:

Ah, yes, the times when civilians meant nothing to our RAMPAGES OF ELDRITCH ABOMINATIONS AND BLOOD AND DEATH MUAHAHAHAHA

 

8 minutes ago, xinoehp512 said:

I would.

The die-out happened for several reasons, mostly because I fizzled out over it. If possible, I would like to resuscitate what I have.

I approve of this.

(From the PM, posting here so these don't get lost)

[Sherlock Holmes he/him]

Yeet yeet mothergrizzers

[+Sorana she/her]

As it is about plots: me and some others had the idea of a plot set in Oasis City. No nuking, something smaller. Characters would be Ghostbloods. We'd like to give everybody the possibility to participate, so those that aren't part of the guild can either use a PC or an NPC (which we'll treat like a PC). The only thing we'd like to ask is, that these GB NPCs don't start another war with some other guild and that you rp them respectfully.

The idea is centered around the whole "moving planning to IC", because we thought, that all guilds have a cool background, that could be used for plots.

For the plot itself, we have a rough outline (which we'll share with anybody interested). As it works well to have a planning pm and a rp thread (see scadrial, sewer system), we'd like to do it like this. Those that want to be surprised can skip the pm, those that want to help planning can do that as well.

What do you think in general?

[overlord stick]

As one of the said outliners/planners, I might be biased, but I think it's pretty awesome.

[+Invocation]

Just as a note, the character intro threads that were discussed a bit earlier are up if anyone wants to use them.

[MetaTerminal he/him]

I hadn’t weighed in earlier, and I have an excess of hats (a reference that might make sense to one of you) so here’s one I’ll throw in the ring.

2 hours ago, Voidus said:

Right. MCU aside, who’d be interested in moving the Alleyverse RP to a new area of the world after this Bureau of Villainy thing gets done? Away from the Alleycity, more towards the frontiers where all kinds of magics and weird stuff collide. It could be an opportunity to more deeply explore the effects of things like the Alleystorm and the eldritch abominations that escaped a while back.

I think that we should have both. Alleycity for the politicking. Frontier for more worldbuilding and exploration. Example:

Spoiler

It is the land of the free and the enterprising. Laws don’t exist out here. Maybe back up north, near the city cluster, travelers would be bound by it. But not down here. Closest you get to civilisation is a monthly drop of corrugated iron and news from the outside. Warring in the streets. Figures.

The river is the edge of the known world. An expedition once went out past it. You never saw them again. And that’s your life; cities to the north and nothing to the south. The intersection between nowheres. It was a peaceful life until the trouble began.

That’s an interesting location, IMO.

Every thread could be marked with a location (e.g. Oasis, Alleycity, Frontier). I’ve always found it strange that we’ve only ever had one city that is ever really focused on.

2 hours ago, Voidus said:

I really think we need another longer time skip.

I think there should be a vote held on this, since there’s no general consensus as far as I can see. On the one hand, yay development; on the other, ten years is a long time. (Avatar came out ten years ago.) 

2 hours ago, Voidus said:

I want some time to do small-scale RP, not to nuke the AlleyCity again.

Hear, hear.

2 hours ago, Sorana said:

me and some others had the idea of a plot set in Oasis City.

I love this idea, and I’d love to see something similar for the other big guilds.

[+Sorana she/her]

Regarding the other points:

I'm in for a longer timeskip, 10-20 years is resonable and you can still go on with characters, if you want to. I agree with Meta, we'll need a poll for this.

I also like the idea of smaller plots somewhere else, but I don't think we need to move the whole setting. Those that like plots around a city, like thieving can, and those who want to go to a frontier can make a thread for that as well. I think it will work just fine with threads in different locations.

[kenod]

Regarding the timeskip,

I'd prefer if we didn't do it, at least for this Era. I still have some characters around that would lose almost all opportunity for character development, which is kind of annoying to me. I wouldn't mind a shorter one, but I don't really like a longer one.

I personally think that longer timeskips should be agreed upon at the start of the Era, not at the end, since this would give us time to prepare for them.

[Voidus]

Results from last poll:

Which additional settings should be explored as a trial?
Ancient Pre-Civilization - 5
Classical Fantasy (No tech, guns, etc.) - 15
Wild West - 10
Modern day - 4
Sci-Fi - 12
Horror - 12
Noir - 5
War games (Tactical / strategic play instead of individual character focus) - 8
Political intrigue - 10
None, I prefer keeping the current setting without any expansion of setting - 3

Putting up a new poll regarding the timeskip since there seems to be some support for both sides. I'd also suggest people start thinking about other potential ways to circumvent the problems that either option might cause. Eg. A large scale Cadmium bubble that preserves the age of certain characters across the timeskip so they can still be played. (Not a real suggestion, just an example)

 

5 hours ago, Sorana said:

I also like the idea of smaller plots somewhere else, but I don't think we need to move the whole setting. Those that like plots around a city, like thieving can, and those who want to go to a frontier can make a thread for that as well. I think it will work just fine with threads in different locations.

Agreed. Different major locations also helps break things up into smaller groups of characters which makes things much more manageable. It becomes a lot easier to be aware of who is who in a smaller group rather than everyone piling into a single location.
Also I am aware of at least three different proposed plots for next era, so these could be spread out by location to allow people to pick a plot to become invested in rather than everyone being forced into the same major plot or else sidelining their character for a while until the plot is resolved.

[kenod]

11 minutes ago, Voidus said:

Also I am aware of at least three different proposed plots for next era, so these could be spread out by location to allow people to pick a plot to become invested in rather than everyone being forced into the same major plot or else sidelining their character for a while until the plot is resolved.

Maybe it would be good to collect the different ideas here? It would be nice to be able to debate them, and see how they work together. I think at least two of the proposed plots would work well together, either sequentially or in parallel.

[Voidus]

I always suggest that people post ideas like that here before they develop them too much, but ultimately I'll leave it up to the people whose ideas they are to present them when they feel comfortable.

[+Sorana she/her]

2 minutes ago, Voidus said:

I always suggest that people post ideas like that here before they develop them too much, but ultimately I'll leave it up to the people whose ideas they are to present them when they feel comfortable.

That is exactly the reason I adressed the GB plot here, once we had a rough idea what we want to do.

It will be a typical city plot, with some fighting, some mystery and some assassinations

The details are open for definition depending how many apart from the five of us are interested and would like to participate, which characters there'll be and the overall mood.

[kenod]

5 minutes ago, Voidus said:

I always suggest that people post ideas like that here before they develop them too much, but ultimately I'll leave it up to the people whose ideas they are to present them when they feel comfortable.

True, but some of those ideas have already been posted in this thread (I think). It might be good to collect those in one place.

[Voidus]

I will say that I really do like the idea of guild plots being opened up to everyone, there hasn't been much in the way of ooc guild relations happening for a while now so I don't think there'd be any harm in people RPing into guilds that differ from their associations as a player. Would be awesome if we could get a few of those up to really flesh out some of the guilds a little more.

16 minutes ago, kenod said:

True, but some of those ideas have already been posted in this thread (I think). It might be good to collect those in one place.

So I think two have already been discussed in this thread. 
1. Ghosblood plot set in Oasis city, with TBD details but involving mstery, fighting and assassinations.
2. Invo's main plot suggestion: fix the shredding of reality. Spacetime has become a little more ragged around the edges and everyone is required to fix it, would be a planet-wide plot with possibly some time shenanigans going on.

[Goldeneye63]

Hey @Voidus can you add to the AV PM.