Lemonelon Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Darkness_ said: How does that support you as a villager? To be honest, I have no idea. I think Wilson and Orlok are probably elims. I don't know how "styles" work, but I'm good at picking up patterns. If I were an elim, I would be trying to pick off people in the lynch that others have suspicions on to stay under the radar. I haven't really done that, which is causing suspicions on myself. I will switch my vote from Rae back to Orlok as I think he is really one of the elims. Though without any metals to burn and lack of PMs I can trust I'm really playing this blind.
Sony Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 22 hours ago, Arinian said: Voting for Orlok. He is obviously elim. What makes you think that he is an elim? 4 hours ago, Darkness_ said: I for one, can't really attribute Lemon's actions as "eliminatory", more highly strung up and defensive, which I don't blame her for considering her rl situation. Although I don't know what's going on in her real life, I do agree with your statement that it's more just defensive than elim-like. So, for right now, Lemon. If Lemon is lynched and she flips village, then I would definitely be more suspicious of Orlok and Wilson. I am leaning towards voting for Rae this cycle now, but I would like to hear her thoughts on this cycle so far. @Arraenae
Arinian Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 5 hours ago, Darkness_ said: I don't exactly understand your reasoning, I for one, think it slightly suspicious that @Orlok Tsubodai and @little wilson have both picked up on activity and they both happen to be pushing for a lynch on Lemon. I for one, can't really attribute Lemon's actions as "eliminatory", more highly strung up and defensive, which I don't blame her for considering her rl situation. Also, no other elims have been caught until now, and if I was an elim, I wouldn't behave like that on cycle 6, where the elims have a high possibility of winning regardless of me being lynched or not. DA you just said what I think, stop reading my thoughts . I don't understand why Lemon is more suspicious than somebody else, she(Lemon is she? Sorry but I forgot) is flying under radar but not much more then Steeldancer(and he was villager) did, Orlok also was flying under radar of course he said that his low activity were caused by IRL things, but we have much more people then Lemon who flying under radar or lurking. So I don't understand all this focus on Lemon, especially when on previous cycle Orlok stated that he pretty suspicious of Rae and PK, but now he changed his mind and Lemon became suspect number 1, maybe I'm stupid or missed something(I don't discount both of this possibilities) but what influenced Orlok's suspicions so radically. 27 minutes ago, Sony said: What makes you think that he is an elim? And here we going to part why I voted for Orlok. Right now we have 18 alive players(if I not miscounted) for 25 initial players normal number of elims is 5(1 Seer with 4 atium beads)(can be influenced by many thing and blah blah blah, so hypothetically it can be 4 elims or... I don't know choose any other number that you like), so we have presumably 5 elims and 13 villagers, but from this 18 players 12(I'm not sure about this number... just pulled it from my head but lvl of activity is surely unsatisfying) is active. In worst case scenario we have 5 active elims and 7 active villagers(and as Wyrm said he not gonna count inactive players for elim win con), so if all our elims is active 1 mislynch and we dead. Okay, enough of this nonsense counting. Why Orlok voted on Lemon? I pretty obviously stated on previous turn that I would vote for Orlok or Wilson if Rae is villager and I'm sure I'm not the only one who will vote for Orlok if Rae is villager so for elims best it's to push back Rae's lynch. They causing Lemon's lynch and what elims will get from it?(Also it's easy enough for full elim team rule lynch as they want on this stage of game(with this lvl of activity). Right, they will get time cause after Lemon's lynch it would be much easier to cause mislynch on someone like Rae(not cause people love to lynch Rae or something else, just cause she gathered many suspicions), (and if Rae would be lynched on this cycle and she is villager many people will look on Orlok or Wilson as probable elims). And so after 2 cycles of mislynches and same lvl of activity village will lose almost certainly. But as you can see my counting and situation don't fit together(cause if I were right about numbers than it would much easier for elims to lynch Rae on this cycle and they won), so or I'm wrong about number of active villagers or elims have inactive players or Seer still not used al atium. Still that problem with numbers not changes situation that lynch on Lemon pretty good for Orlok or Wilson if they are elims. (I hope atleast someone will understand what I tried to say ) Also I'm still not sure what to think about Rae or PK, cause after people started to suspect them, they started to fly under radar(lurk), it looks pretty elimy. Anyway, that's what I think, believe me or not it's all that you got it's all that I give . Maybe I'm wrong about everything and we should look in other places for elims but I don't have other better guesses for elims and so I will keep my vote on Orlok. 1
Orlok Tsubodai Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 I’d happily vote for Rae this cycle, but don’t think her lynch will provide a great deal of information. I’m convinced of her guilt as is, given her actions last day cycle involving working to get an obvious villager lynched whilst falsely claiming self preservation. I believe Lemonelon to be the Seer, but think that her guilt is less certain than Rae’s. As such, Lemonelon’s lynch is far more useful than Rae’s, letting us make more certain conclusions about those who have sought to avert it this cycle, namely Arinian. 1
Arinian Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 18 minutes ago, Orlok Tsubodai said: I’d happily vote for Rae this cycle, but don’t think her lynch will provide a great deal of information. I’m convinced of her guilt as is, given her actions last day cycle involving working to get an obvious villager lynched whilst falsely claiming self preservation. I believe Lemonelon to be the Seer, but think that her guilt is less certain than Rae’s. As such, Lemonelon’s lynch is far more useful than Rae’s, letting us make more certain conclusions about those who have sought to avert it this cycle, namely Arinian. And what suspicious you found in Lemon's behavior? Stating obvious things? You also stated obvious things like "killing inactives don't gives us any profit", that's obvious, atleast I count it so. Or what reasons that made you so suspicious of Lemon cause I don't see "good" reasons. I don't have nothing against Lemon's lynch but if I right mislynch can be crucial for village right now and so lynching undoubtable elim (for you it's Rae) and after that seek for other probable elims it's much better, cause if we will lynch elim it will give us additional turn to seek for probable elims without risk to be on the edge of lose(cause as I said with that lvl of activity we can leave lynch in elims hands).
Orlok Tsubodai Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 @Arinian, her voting habits, her refusal to commit to opinions in thread, her cooperation with Rae in the early game, supported by the circumstantial evidence of her now being roleless, and her responses today, which come across as flippant and unhelpful, lead me to believe that Lemonelon is evil. I don’t think we’re approaching Lynch or Lose, and so can afford a marginally less certain lynch in return for significantly greater information. @Arinian, for that matter, what’s your opinion on Rae? Do you disagree with my assessment of her actions last day cycle? If so, why?
Arinian Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Orlok Tsubodai said: @Arinian, her voting habits, her refusal to commit to opinions in thread, her cooperation with Rae in the early game, supported by the circumstantial evidence of her now being roleless, and her responses today, which come across as flippant and unhelpful, lead me to believe that Lemonelon is evil. I don’t think we’re approaching Lynch or Lose, and so can afford a marginally less certain lynch in return for significantly greater information. @Arinian, for that matter, what’s your opinion on Rae? Do you disagree with my assessment of her actions last day cycle? If so, why? I don't agree with your points about Lemon(cause all her behavior for me looks like NAI), but all what you said about Rae seems right and solid. So if you will change your vote on Rae I also will change my vote on her, it's not blackmail(just saying it because some people like to read to much in my words), it's just proposition of fair deal.
Arraenae Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 Sorry for not posting any disscussion this cycle, it probably makes me look really hypocritical about pinging all of those inactives and asking them to talk. Some things happened and I wasn't sure whether continuing to stay active was of any use. I think Orlok's sudden jump to the Lemon lynch is really, really weird. Also, Wilson feels rather in lockstep with Orlok. I think that either 1) they're villagers and very sure about their reads (if Lemon and I are both elims, then it's probably harder for the elim team to keep both of us alive) and they're trying to do an early cycle village hammer or 2) they're elims and are so close to parity that they don't care about staying hidden. Orlok did claim Soother, so if he's an elim the village automatically gets -1 vote to every critical lynch. I'll take a look at Lemon's posts later.
Orlok Tsubodai Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 Just now, Arinian said: I don't agree with your points about Lemon(cause all her behavior for me looks like NAI), but all what you said about Rae seems right and solid. So if you will change your vote on Rae I also will change my vote on her, it's not blackmail(just saying it because some people like to read to much in my words), it's just proposition of fair deal. Very well. Lemon, Rae. I certainly don't think Lemon's actions are NAI, and will almost certainly return to voting on her next cycle, but would rather see Rae lynched than myself. @little wilson, @Sony, in the interests of avoiding spreading out votes, would either of you care to join a lynch on Rae?
Arinian Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 Just now, Orlok Tsubodai said: Very well. Lemon, Rae. I certainly don't think Lemon's actions are NAI, and will almost certainly return to voting on her next cycle, but would rather see Rae lynched than myself. Right now it's just question of trust, if Rae is elim, then I will be more than okay with Lemon's lynch. Orlok. Rae.
Sony Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, Orlok Tsubodai said: @little wilson, @Sony, in the interests of avoiding spreading out votes, would either of you care to join a lynch on Rae? Yes. Rae.
little wilson she/her Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 Lemon. Rae. Also, I vehemently disagree with the claim that Lemon's actions are NAI. She's participating in the MR a fair bit, providing reads and everything over there, but not even bothering to do so here. Ever wonder why that might be?
Orlok Tsubodai Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 24 minutes ago, Arraenae said: Can someone post a vote tally? Sure. Rae: DA, Orlok, Arinian, Sony, Wilson (5) Orlok: Lemonelon (1) Arinian: Araris (1)
Arraenae Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 Very well then, Orlok. This vote is for self preservation, but I could switch to a Lemon lynch. If she's been playing differently here than in the MR, that's kind of suspicious.
Aonar he/him Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 Lemon, because I can't very well follow the trend now can I? (Will change to Rae if the vote changes to look close and I'm around.)
Seonid he/him Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 Hmm. I'd like to lynch Orlok, frankly. He's pinging my radar badly, for reasons which Arinian had already brought up. But I can get begins a Rae lynch, I suppose. I don't know if me coming back actually gains the village time. I hope it does
Arraenae Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 Alright, took a closer look at Lemon and looked at her posts in the QF. I think Lemon is an elim[/color]. Their posts in the QF seem much more detailed than in here. I feel like Lemon isn't putting a lot of effort in analysis in this game, which would make sense if they're already elim. At the beginning of this game, I dismissed the things Lemon said as newbie inexperience, but it turns out that this isn't Lemon's first game, so they have less of an excuse.
Elbereth she/her Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 On 10/27/2017 at 4:46 AM, Lemonelon said: She could be evil, you could be evil, I could be evil. You think I'm evil, you think she may be evil. Based on the assumption that you are village, you have mentioned her feeling off to you. So, as a good villager I will listen to that theory. Just so happens to even out the votes in myself in the process. This post is what pinged me about Lemon, personally - claiming not to be voting for self-preservation but because you’re following Orlok based on the assumption that he’s village. Where about a post before that you were questioning whether he was in fact village, and in either case following along with him isn’t what I’d define as ‘a good villager’. 3 hours ago, Arraenae said: I think Orlok's sudden jump to the Lemon lynch is really, really weird. Also, Wilson feels rather in lockstep with Orlok. I think that either 1) they're villagers and very sure about their reads (if Lemon and I are both elims, then it's probably harder for the elim team to keep both of us alive) and they're trying to do an early cycle village hammer or 2) they're elims and are so close to parity that they don't care about staying hidden. Orlok did claim Soother, so if he's an elim the village automatically gets -1 vote to every critical lynch. This either reads as suspicious or confusing to me, and I can’t tell which. Rae, care to explain before you die if you have time? Speaking of which, I’m fine with a Rae lynch. Also, I’m back! Still catching up, but back. Sorry for my absence. >>
Wyrmhero he/him Posted October 28, 2017 Author Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) Night 6: Blackmail They strapped Armina to the table in the torture chamber, and left her with Waern, trusting him to be able to get the answers they needed. Waern turned his back to her, selecting his tools. He turned back to her, and raised the simple scalpel he had decided to start with. “Did you get my letter?” Armina asked, surprisingly confident, and even cheerful, for someone in her position. Waern froze, the blade hovering slightly above her cheek. “What letter?” he asked, trying to feign ignorance. “The letter I delivered,” Armina replied. “Well, I suppose it was more of a note than a full letter. I didn’t want to waste too much ink on it. Not that it was mine, I stole Locke’s, but it’s the principle of the thing. Speaking of principles, how are yours holding up? Hiding out here, instead of doing your job and hunting that skaa child down...” Waern finally took the breath that he hadn’t realised he’d been holding. “There was no child,” he said sternly. “It was a rumour designed to discredit me, nothing more. In fact, it’s laughable to suggest that a member of the Canton of Inquisition would find themselves in that position.” “You’re right, it is laughable,” Armina nodded as best she could having a tie around her neck to keep her lying down, “and yet here we are. I wonder if they’d kill you immediately or tie you down here first?” “Listen here,” Waern said, the scalpel finding itself at her neck and digging in, drawing blood, “there is not one shred of evidence that this is something that happened, and I would know. I’ve spent my life looking over my shoulder, just in case. If there are any loose ends, I will silence them, and we can pretend it never happened, understood? And you’re looking like a loose end to me right now...” “If-” Armina winced as blood dripped down her face. It wasn’t deep, but it still stung and hurt. “If you kill me, I’ve made… arrangements… for certain details to fall into the hands of someone inclined to do something about it.” “...You’re bluffing,” Waern said, the blade piercing deeper. “And- and if I’m not?” Waern paused, internally weighing his options. Eventually, he let the scalpel drop down to the side, and sighed. He started to undo the ties that kept Armina on the table. “Fine. But the minute I find out where you’ve hidden this information...” “Of course,” she nodded as she sat up, rubbing her neck where the rope had rubbed against the skin. She wiped away the blood on her cheek. “Although, I have hidden it away rather well. I think this will be the start of a very profitable relationship for many years to come.” Waern grunted and sat down on a chair, the colour drained from his face. He looked lost, more than anything. “Cheer up,” Armina said with a smile, as she unlocked the door. “As long as you do what I say, no-one else needs to know.” She closed the door behind her, leaving Waern to sit there alone. Armina was lynched, but survived! Armina/Arranae (6): Alrin/Arinian, Sheon/Seonid, Locke/Orlok Tsuobdai, Marsh/Darkness_, Jaina/little wilson, Sony, Cyfna/Elbereth Pix/Lemonelon (2): Armina/Arranae, Nickel/Aonar Faileas Alrin/Arinian (1): Hadrian/Araris Valerian Locke/Orlok Tsuobdai (1): Pix/Lemonelon Night 6 has begun! It will end at 21:00 PM GMT on Sunday. This does mean that the Turn will be one hour longer, but I'm sure it will be fine . There is still a Tineye alive, so PMs may be continue to be sent. Players Alrin (Arinian) Sheon, formerly of House Idris (Seonid) Locke, formerly of House Tekiel (Orlok Tsubodai) Eobard (Steeldancer) - Lurcher Straw (Straw) - Obligator Quintus, worldhopper (Jondesu) - Coinshot Hadrian, formerly of House Penrod (Araris Valerian) John (Shqueeves) Variel, ambitious and young (StrikerEZ) Marsh, but not that Marsh (Darkness Ascendant) Pix (Lemonelon) Jaina, obsessed with pandas (littlewilson) Sart (Sart) - Smoker Cyfna (Elbereth) Edguardo 'The Great', long on plans but short on money (Paranoid King) A Joe in the Bush - Rioter Armina, of House Handler (Arranae) Sony Mira (frozen Mint) - Tineye Rin (doc12) Gaskon Renaud, who may get around to procrastinating eventually (Amanuensis) - Obligator DarianHammersmith Droughtbringer Davus Nickel, formerly of House Izenry (Aonar Faileas) Quick Links: The Rules Day 1 Night 1 Day 2 Night 2 Day 3 Night 3 Day 4 Night 4 Day 5 Night 5 Day 6 Night 6 Edited October 29, 2017 by Wyrmhero 5
little wilson she/her Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Rae claimed to be a soother when she tried to self-pres and kill me. The fact that she is actually a thug no only indicates that that was a lie but also that she is evil and had a soother on her team (that is not Orlok, since he soothed counter to them and saved me).
Arinian Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) And I'm was right! I think... And I'm cleared(cause I pushed for Rae's or PK's lynch since... C2? I'm not sure)! And now elims will kill me cause elims don't like cleared villagers... damnation. I mean, if I understand it right and Rae is Seer(not converted Thug) than we right now just killed 2 elims, cause she wasted one bead of atium to survive and that's good isn't it? Edited October 28, 2017 by Arinian
Arraenae Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 18 minutes ago, little wilson said: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Rae claimed to be a soother when she tried to self-pres and kill me. The fact that she is actually a thug no only indicates that that was a lie but also that she is evil and had a soother on her team (that is not Orlok, since he soothed counter to them and saved me). Ah, whoopsies! I guess I wasn't as hard-confirmed a Soother as you thought. 7 minutes ago, Arinian said: And I'm was right! I think... And I'm cleared(cause I pushed for Rae's or PK's lynch since... C2? I'm not sure)! And now elims will kill me cause elims don't like cleared villagers... damnation. Somebody get a lurcher quick!
Arinian Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, Arraenae said: Somebody get a lurcher quick! Stop using this smile ==> this smile(or use if you want, but still it makes me paranoid ) makes me paranoid. What if I wrong and you not elim and I somehow were fooled by Wilson? See what you have done? Also I almost sure that only lurcher in this game is dead.
Arraenae Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Arinian said: Stop using this smile ==> this smile(or use if you want, but still it makes me paranoid ) makes me paranoid. What if I wrong and you not elim and I somehow were fooled by Wilson? See what you have done? Good.
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